Golf 1.4 TSI, 7 speed DSG- Where is the Transmission Temp Displayed on VCDS

[Wizz]

Hi all, I have have looked what I think is everywhere for this value to be displayed so I can change the DSG oil. I have looked in Basic settings and Advanced Measured values, its not anywhere. Maybe its not displayed for this engine type. I have a Tiguan and it is under 'ATF Transmision temperature' but for this carI cant find it anywhere. Is anyone able to assist?

 

[iichel]

Mvb 11.1?

 

[Uwe]

Is anyone able to assist?

Every automatic transmission I've seen that "talks" has transmission fluid temperature somewhere. But to give you specifics, we'd need to see exactly what transmission controller this car has, so please post an Auto-Scan.

-Uwe-

 

[Wizz]

Every automatic transmission I've seen that "talks" has transmission fluid temperature somewhere. But to give you specifics, we'd need to see exactly what transmission controller this car has, so please post an Auto-Scan.

-Uwe-

HI, thanks for your reply. The car is a Golf 2015, TSI 1.4

Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F

VIN: WVWZZZAUZFW052371   Mileage: 60441km-37556miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CXSA)       Labels:. 04E-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04E 906 016 DF    HW: 04E 907 309 A
   Component: 1,4l R4 TSI   H09 7775
   Revision: WAH09---  
   Coding: 01250012232415082000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906016DF 002006
   ROD: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906016DF.rod
   VCID: 698FB459D9F5782338D-803C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: 0CW-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0CW 300 047 S    HW: 0AM 927 769 K
   Component: GSG DQ200-MQB H43 5201
   Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501406256768
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ200021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ200021_VW26.rod
   VCID: 4BC36ED1B3498A332A1-801E

No fault code found.

 

[Uwe]

The car is a Golf 2015, TSI 1.4

Good grief this thing has temperatures out the wazoo. Ambient temperature, Clutch temperatures, control module temperatures, all kinds of temperature "models" and "snapshots", but no obvious transmission fluid or oil temperature.

I would have a look at these:
ENG100625 -- Coolant temperature (°C)
ENG122361 -- Temperatur Hybrid (°C)

-Uwe-

 

[Wizz]

Good grief this thing has temperatures out the wazoo. Ambient temperature, Clutch temperatures, control module temperatures, all kinds of temperature "models" and "snapshots", but no obvious transmission fluid or oil temperature.

I would have a look at these:
ENG100625 -- Coolant temperature (°C)
ENG122361 -- Temperatur Hybrid (°C)

-Uwe-

Thanks , I don't feel so bad. I had seen the temps you reference. Ill try and follow up on the temps you suggest but might have to try and guess with an infrared thermometer. Thanks or your help anyway.

 

[Uwe]

Ill try and follow up on the temps you suggest but might have to try and guess with an infrared thermometer.

My guess is they used a misleading description and what you want is:
ENG100625 -- Coolant temperature (°C)

I know on some older cars when you queried the generic OBD-II PID for "Coolant Temperature", two values came back; one was the engine coolant temperature, and the other was the transmission fluid temperature, and this may be why it's labelled that way by VW.

-Uwe-

 

[siLc]

DQ200 DSG doesnt have any coolant per se going through it, so I’d guess that particular MVB displays engine coolant temp?

For clutch basic settings, drive around a bit normally and you should be good to go. When doing basic settings with ODIS, it actually displays the temperature to the user, so it gets that info somewhere...

 

[Eric]

Here's an idea; from cold, let the engine warm up in P (put some load on it like lights, heated seats, rear defroster etc). As son as it's reasonably warmed up (we're looking for a cold trans and warm engine), make a measuring values map of 01, 02, and 33. Post those here. That should give us an indication of what's what.
In general I wish everyone asking for "where's X?" on this forum would post not just an autoscan, but also a measuring block or adaptation map of the relevant control module. That's of course assuming they're familiar with VCDS, but if not maybe we should make it a sticky with instructions.

 

[NEtech]

What it is needed for?
"IDE00102-ENG102028-Control Module temperature" is used for different things, like basic setting.

 

[NEtech]

So I just went out and pulled a mechatronik out of an car, I have standing
Red circle where the temperature is measured.

Both these are used:
ENG122361-Temperatur Hybrid
IDE00102-ENG102028 Control Module temperature
Temperatur Hybrid should be the one called (G510)
They are both placed in the Controller and Hybrid (controller), which are the same.
So they are probably both somewhere in the last picture.
At about 75°C for IDE00102, ENG122361 show about 5°C lower.