Power Steering too weak Gen3 Golf R mk6 can’t change power assist force

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Hi guys,
I’m trying to modify the power steering assist on my 2010 Golf R mk6.
[1k0-909-14xGEN3]

channel #44 Steering Adaptation and #03 Abs doesn’t have any Power adjustable value neither the Steering program to choose from.



Q:There’s a way to keep the power steering assist at the maximum power at all time for Gen3 steering module? 1k0-909-14xGEN3

I found on YouTube that is possible with the JD500 module using the program type 6 “handicap” (heavily increased steering aid)

-Maybe tricking something like vehicle speed, miss-calibrating the torque sensor min/max… etc etc?

As stated on the Ross Tech website the steering adaptation curves for this can be changed only with the factory tool.
https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/1139/

Cheers
Rick
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VCDS
Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: Release 21.3.0(x64) Data version: 20210226 DS325.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
Dealer/Shop Name:
Workshop Code: 000 00000 000000
Self-Diagnosis Log
Saturday,14,August,2021,14:32:38:54606
VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW340484 License Plate: CQA20D
Mileage: 229110km-142362mi Repair Order:
Chassis Type: 1K-VW36 (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 22 25 2E 42 44 46 52 55 56 62
72 77
VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW340484 Mileage: 229110km-142362miles
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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PartNoSW:1K8907115D HW:8P0907115B
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VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW340484 License Plate: CQA20D
Address 01: Engine (CDL) Labels:. 06F-907-115-CDL.clb
Page 2
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0010
Revision: 5BH19--- Serial number:
Coding: 0403000C1C0F0160
Shop #: WSC 00006 067 57207
VCID: 2F3B1A48CB101893269-807A
2 Faults Found:
001056 - Catalyst System; Bank 1
P0420 - 002 - Efficiency Below Threshold - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 228850 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.01.05
Time: 01:12:03
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 1537 /min
Load: 39.2 %
Speed: 59.0 km/h
Temperature: 74.0°C
Temperature: 24.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.970 V
001089 - EVAP Emission Control Sys
P0441 - 002 - Incorrect Flow - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 228923 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.01.05
Time: 02:27:56
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 767 /min
Load: 16.1 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 73.0°C
Temperature: 33.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.843 V
  Readiness: 0000 0000

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VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW340484 License Plate: CQA20D
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
Part No SW: 02E 300 012 N HW: 02E 927 770 AL
Component: GSG DSG AG6 511 2118
Revision: 51112 Serial number: 00001002230270
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 1B63DE98AFA894337A1-804E
No fault code found. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW340484 License Plate: CQA20D
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AJ HW: 1K0 907 379 AJ
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H30 0107
Revision: 00H30001
Coding: 163B800D092600FA680F01EC901D00813D0000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 7AADFB1C4CD20D3BC17-802E
2 Faults Found:
02214 - Tire Pressure Warning
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 10
Mileage: 228929 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.01.05
Time: 03:49:54
Freeze Frame:
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 4608
Count: 397
Count: 49431
Count: 1
Count: 65023
Count: 0
01169 - Door Contact Switch Driver Side (F2)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 21
Mileage: 229071 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.01.05
Time: 00:06:43
Freeze Frame:
Count: 16384
Count: 32768
Count: 29184
Count: 147
Count: 51501
Count: 0
Count: 64754
  Count: 3328

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VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW340484 License Plate: CQA20D
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 BS HW: 5K0 907 044 BS
Component: Climatronic H15 0709
Revision: 00003001
Coding: 0000001002
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01006
ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
VCID: 7DA7F0005D7C3A03E45-8028
No fault code found. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Coding: 009795
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VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW340484 License Plate: CQA20D
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
PartNoSW:1K0937087D HW:1K0937087D
Component: BCM PQ35 H 103 0575
Revision: 00103 AG
Coding: 48180A3A9825F1C044080080240008E441550088736D8960E48000240000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 323D133CD422357B497-8066
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 F Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 26021 21 0512
  Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
Component: RLS 010310 05 54 0403
Coding: 0330AD
Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0104
Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 605
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H09 9002
4 Faults Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 9
Reset counter: 19
Mileage: 228629 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.01.05
Time: 20:32:02
Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 12.35 V
ON
ON
Term 50 Off
OFF
ON
00978 - Lamp for Low Beam; Left (M29)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 50
Reset counter: 236
Mileage: 228659 km

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Self-Diagnosis Log
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VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW340484 License Plate: CQA20D
Time Indication: 0
Page 7
  Date: 2016.01.05
Time: 14:34:11
Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 14.45 V
ON
ON
Term 50 Off
OFF
OFF
01518 - Bulb for Back-Up Lights; Left (M16)
010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 10
Reset counter: 10
Mileage: 228820 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.01.05
Time: 20:51:47
Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 14.05 V
ON
ON
Term 50 Off
OFF
OFF
01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X)
014 - Defective - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101110
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 10
Mileage: 228930 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.01.05
Time: 22:51:29
Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 11.80 V
ON
ON
Term 50 Off

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VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW340484 License Plate: CQA20D
OFF
OFF
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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:. 3C8-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 919 475 D HW: 5K0 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE 8K H07 0010
Revision: -------- Serial number: 48331000400441
Coding: 100104
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 372B22283F40D0537E9-8062
No fault code found. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V H01 ----
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VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW340484 License Plate: CQA20D
Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
PartNoSW:5K0959655D HW:5K0959655D
Component: AirbagVW10 037 0606
Serial number: 003FKRA4D7LY
Coding: 00003131
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01011
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
VCID: 3B233E1803E8F4339A1-806E
Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354 HW: 5K0 959 354
  Serial number: 3572MSME40524351ZZZH
Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354 HW: 5K0 959 354
Component: S.Sens.Beif.V H01 ----
Serial number: 3582MSME391A1551ZZZT
Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
Component: S.Sens.Beif.H --- ----
Serial number: 3522QSME22144B7EZZZ.
1 Fault Found:
9443349 - Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side)
B1018 15 [137] - Open or Short to Plus
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 228596 km
Date: 2021.08.14
Time: 23:04:04
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VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW340484
License Plate: CQA20D
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 76B5EF2C74CA695BA5F-8022
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K0 959 542 Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-TAS H05 0010
Coding: 00000131
Shop #: WSC 00000
No fault code found.
No fault code found.
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  Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CD HW: 1K0 953 549 CD
Component: J0527 056 0111
Coding: 0001632
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
PartNoSW:5K6920870F HW:5K6920870F
Component: KOMBI H03 0305
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 170F00
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04052
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
VCID: 36352F2C38CA295B65F-8062
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AD HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H07 0112
Revision: H07 01 Serial number: 220210F2000790
Coding: EDA37F06000612000003
Shop #: WSC 01016 959 86335
VCID: 698FB4503574B6A338D-803C
No fault code found.
  Address 22: AWD Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
PartNoSW:0BR907554A HW:0BR907554A
Component: Haldex 4Motion 3016
Coding: 0000005
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 43D346F877988CF3D21-8016
No fault code found. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Coding: 0000692
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Self-Diagnosis Log
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VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW340484 License Plate: CQA20D
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H03 0305
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03005
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
VCID: 6A8DCB5C3CF2BDBB317-803E
No fault code found.
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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
PartNoSW:5N0035342B HW:5N0035342B
Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0090
Revision: A1001003 Serial number: 7667849237
Coding: 010000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2615FF6CE8EA59DBD5F-8072
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
PartNoSW:5K0959701B HW:5K0959701B
Component: Tuer-SG 009 2120
  Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 313F1C30DD240E6330D-8064
1 Fault Found:
00912 - Window Regulator Switch; Front Left (E40)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 251 3001
Revision: 00H17000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 313F1C30DD240E6330D-8064
No fault code found. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Component: Tuer-SG 009 2114
Self-Diagnosis Log
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VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW340484 License Plate: CQA20D
No fault code found.
VCDS
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
PartNoSW:5K0959702C HW:5K0959702C
  Coding: 0000948
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 3333163827383C73421-8066
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Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
PartNoSW:5M0907357C HW:5M0907357C
Component: AFS-Steuergeraet 0142
Revision: 00H04000 Serial number:
Coding: 1475932
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 3431152422363B4B5BB-8060
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l 0005
Coding: 00000022
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r 0005
Coding: 00000022
1 Fault Found:
00978 - Lamp for Low Beam; Left (M29)
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101110
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 236
Mileage: 229112 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.01.05
Time: 21:52:01
Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.07 V
Speed: 0.0 km/h
ABS 1
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Revision: 00000001 Serial number: VWZ1Z3K3009752
Fault Frequency: 1
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VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW340484 License Plate: CQA20D
Address 56: Radio (J0503) Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 035 190 HW: 5K0 035 190
Component: Radio RCD510 040 0167
  Coding: 0500040004
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 629DA37CC442E5FBF97-8036
1 Fault Found:
03138 - Input AUX IN
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
  Reset counter: 214
Mileage: 228596 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.01.05
Time: 23:04:16
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
PartNoSW:5K0959703C HW:5K0959703C
Component: Tuer-SG 007 2101
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
VCID: 3431152422363B4B5BB-8060
No fault code found.
No fault code found. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
PartNoSW:5K0959704C HW:5K0959704C
Component: Tuer-SG 007 2101
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
VCID: 35372820294C22436C5-8060
 
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VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW340484 License Plate: CQA20D
Address 77: Telephone (J738) Labels:. 1K8-035-730.clb
PartNoSW:1K8051730B HW:1K8051730B
Component: Telefon H02 5400
Revision: 00002000 Serial number: 20389520248745
Coding: 402120
Shop #: WSC 01016 959 86335
VCID: 2615FF6CE8EA59DBD5F-8072
No fault code found.
End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:24, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/12.0V)-----------
 
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This power steering has characteristics curve 251 installed (as denoted by "Kl. 251" in it‘s identification.
It is too new to allow for a change using adaption channels however if you have another tool besides VCDS, you can just flash another characteristics curve to it. VCDS unfortunately does not support update programming.
 
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This power steering has characteristics curve 251 installed (as denoted by "Kl. 251" in it‘s identification.
It is too new to allow for a change using adaption channels however if you have another tool besides VCDS, you can just flash another characteristics curve to it. VCDS unfortunately does not support update programming.
Thanks for the explanation!
I’m wondering why other tools can do and VCDS can’t do it but with the previous version or newer is possible… we talking about software not hardware I guess?

Anyway I found another interesting reaction from the power steering,
If I mechanically disconnect the steering angle sensor behind the steering wheel and i put the DSG in “N” the steering becomes perfectly smooth and lighter at any speed.

So I would like to trick the power steering module thinking that the vehicle is always in this “neutral” stage..
Any ideas?
 
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You probably have a mechanical issue somewhere. Find and fix that issue and you won't need to resort to hacks.
 
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You probably have a mechanical issue somewhere. Find and fix that issue and you won't need to resort to hacks.
What do you mean?? It doesn’t matter if this code or one of my cars had issues. We need this hack for all our rally cars whit short steering column
 
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older steering rack like 2005 ....2006 .... yes, can be adjust via VCDS
use odis and flash to proper one, normally people swap steering and never touch that . because minor different between skoda, golf , etc ...
 
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older steering rack like 2005 ....2006 .... yes, can be adjust via VCDS
use odis and flash to proper one, normally people swap steering and never touch that . because minor different between skoda, golf , etc ...
Yes yes, I know there’s the “handicap” program number 6 for the Gen2/3 racks and they worked like an hydraulic power steering at any speed either stationary or 100km/h it’s perfect.
With the Mk6 Golf R I’m having a big problem because the power steering is (understandably) programmed to fading away while building speed, which is the opposite of what I need…

I’d like to recreate the pure “hydraulic” power steering effect on stock Gen3 steering rack using only software or tricking the module to stay at maximum force all the time without sourcing aftermarket or modified steering racks.
 
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Yes yes, I know there’s the “handicap” program number 6 for the Gen2/3 racks and they worked like an hydraulic power steering at any speed either stationary or 100km/h it’s perfect.

You can do that on your MK6 R as it has a 1K0909144J steering module:
- Update the rack firmware to the latest version (two stages)
- Use the '51' dataset

You'll need to find someone with VCP or ODIS as it's not possible with VCDS.

Loads of useful links here: https://www.drive2.ru/l/4842693/
 
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I’d like to recreate the pure “hydraulic” power steering effect on stock Gen3 steering rack using only software or tricking the module to stay at maximum force all the time without sourcing aftermarket or modified steering racks.
Now I see what your aim was. Then no mechanical stuff needed.
 
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