MK6 Golf Horn and MFSW not Working.

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Hi,

I have a problem with my daughters MK6 Golf 1.4 TSI. The horn and buttons on the MFSW aren't working.

I tried changing out the clock spring as that was what seemed to be the suggested course of action, but that failed to fix the problem.

I have since checked the circuit diagram and noticed that the horn plate switches go back to the left hand control unit in the MFSW.

I have performed my first auto scan and noticed that the J453 module is not listed anywhere, I have checked auto scans of other similar vehicles in other threads and it is usually seen as a subsystem of J527.

I also noticed that the CAN Gateway is throwing a Control Module Incorrectly Coded error.

I was going to try changing out the modules in the MFSW but I thought I would get some advice first.

Should I change out the buttons in the MFSW and is there anything wrong with the coding of the the CAN Gateway that I can fix?



Another issue is that the car randomly faults after running for at least 5 minutes I see that there is P0106 error in the engine module, what could be the cause of this?

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.



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Friday,06,August,2021,13:49:03:04739
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 21.3.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4544.4
Data version: 20210731 DS325.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ9W536434   License Plate: 096 CE9
Mileage: 186170km-115680mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 1K-VW36 (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ9W536434   Mileage: 186170km-115680miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Not registered 0001
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (CAV)       Labels: 03C-906-027-CAV.clb
   Part No SW: 03C 906 027 BA    HW: 03C 906 027 F
   Component: MED17.5.5       G   9660 
   Revision: L1H08---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000077
   Shop #: WSC 05004 004 1048576
   VCID: 619FAC702D488233E0D-8034

1 Fault Found:
000262 - Manifold / Barometric Pressure Sensor (G71) / (F96)
               P0106 - 000 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 10
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 186171 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.12.28
                    Time: 04:54:53

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1489 /min
                    Load: 86.2 %
                    Speed: 68.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 87.0°C
                    Temperature: 40.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.843 V

Readiness: 0010 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0AM 300 048 N    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
   Component: GSG DSG AG7     431 9033 
   Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501811067923
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 20048 959 130058
   VCID: 3B233E18EF6488E39A1-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 CE    HW: 1K0 907 379 AE
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H35 0120 
   Revision: 00H35001   
   Coding: 163B600D21250000680F06E7841D0080B100
   Shop #: WSC 11574 002 1048576
   VCID: 77ABE2289FCC6C83BE9-8022

3 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101101
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 21
                    Mileage: 184347 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.12.28
                    Time: 04:04:02

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 4864
                    Count: 8193
                    Count: 49717
                    Count: 260
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 51

03388 - Engine Control Module - Pressure Information
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 20
                    Mileage: 186171 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.12.28
                    Time: 04:54:53

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 32768
                    Count: 4608
                    Count: 8251
                    Count: 49732
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 47

01177 - Engine Control Unit
            013 - Check DTC Memory
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101101
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 20
                    Mileage: 186171 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.12.28
                    Time: 04:54:53

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 32768
                    Count: 4608
                    Count: 8250
                    Count: 49732
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 47


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 AK    HW: 5K0 907 044 AK
   Component: Climatronic   130 0305 
   Revision: 00002001   
   Coding: 0000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01001
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 74B1D5248E3A079B9BB-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 084     HW: 1K0 937 084
   Component: BCM PQ35  B   020 0358 
   Revision: 00020000   
   Coding: 40180A3A982518C044080080140000A443510088436D8D60648000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 6B83CE58D384D8634A1-803E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 10030  21  0501
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 270309 05  54  0402
   Coding: 0330AD

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 655     HW: 5K0 959 655
   Component: AirbagVW10    033 0604 
   Serial number: 003C2R38576U 
   Coding: 00003134
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01009
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 77ABE2289F4C6C83BE9-8022

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  U01 ----
   Serial number: 5F116245ZZZZZZZZZZZZ

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  U01 ----
   Serial number: 6B6D3545ZZZZZZZZZZZZ

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  --- ----
   Serial number: 0A4D1E16ZZZZZZZZZZZZ

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  --- ----
   Serial number: 3A32210FZZZZZZZZZZZZ

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CD    HW: 1K0 953 549 CD
   Component: J0527           055 0111 
   Coding: 0001232
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 76B5EF2C94C6158BA5F-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5K0 920 870 B    HW: 5K0 920 870 B
   Component: KOMBI         H21 0030 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 170900
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04020
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
   VCID: 2C010D44168A1F5B03B-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 S    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0071 
   Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 150309F2000827
   Coding: ED807F06000202000003
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 372B2228D34CAC837E9-8062

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 184332 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.12.28
                    Time: 03:06:16


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:. 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 920 870 B    HW: 5K0 920 870 B
   Component: IMMO          H21 0030 
   Serial number:               
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03002
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 2C010D44168A1F5B03B-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 D    HW: 1T0 035 680 D
   Component: RNS-MID       H61 3970 
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L5330010
   Coding: 0C000400000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 02204 959 101037
   VCID: 2F3B1A48271C6443269-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 AF    HW: 1K0 959 701 AF
   Component: Tuer-SG         008 2034 
   Coding: 0004788
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 72BDD33CF8AE09AB897-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 E
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 69     2501 
   Revision: 00H15000   
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 2C010D441A0A1F5B03B-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 AF    HW: 1K0 959 702 AF
   Component: Tuer-SG         008 2034 
   Coding: 0004788
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 73B3D63887B400A3821-8026

1 Fault Found:
00106 - Signal Central Locking SAVE/LOCK Passenger Side
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 D    HW: 1T0 035 680 D
   Component: RNS-MID       H61 3970 
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L5330010
   Coding: 0C000400000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 02204 959 101037
   VCID: 2F3B1A48271C6443269-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AL    HW: 1K0 959 703 AL
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2009 
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 7AADFB1CA0DE71EBC17-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AL    HW: 1K0 959 704 AL
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2009 
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 7BA3FE18AFE448E3DA1-802E

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:11, VBatt start/end: 13.8V/13.8V)-----------
 
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what MFSW you use ?
LIn 1.3 or LIn 2.0 ?
 
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what MFSW you use ?
LIn 1.3 or LIn 2.0 ?
Hi Spacewalker,
Apologies for the late reply, I'm not sure what type of MFSW it is. Below are a couple of photos I took when changing out the clock spring.
I am only new to VCDS, can I force the horn output on in the car to test the relay and horns are working before I change out the module in the MFSW?


jTBmQcb.jpg


gLYAll7.jpg
 
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That's because:
37-Navigation -- Status: Not registered 0001


Been here?

-Uwe-
Thanks Uwe,
I will check the MAP sensor when I get a chance.
Is the navigation - not registered going to be a problem?
If so can you point me in the right direction for a fix please?
 
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this is LIN 2.0 MFSW
with proper loom - use that coding :

0001532 - w/o Push-To-Talk (PTT) installed
or
0001732 with Push-To-Talk (PTT) installed
 
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Is the navigation - not registered going to be a problem?
If so can you point me in the right direction for a fix please?
[Select]
[19-CAN Gateway]
[Installation List]
- Scroll down to 37-Navigation and put a checkmark next to it.
[Save Coding]

-Uwe-
 
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[Select]
[19-CAN Gateway]
[Installation List]
- Scroll down to 37-Navigation and put a checkmark next to it.
[Save Coding]

-Uwe-
Thanks for that Uwe, I'll give it a go next time I can get my hands on the car.
 
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Been there done that with lin1 and lin2 coding. So simple to miss but can cause hours of head scratching and testing
 
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Hi ED30R,
I have had a chance to look at the Mk6 yet.
I don’t understand how the coding could be wrong as we haven’t done anything to it. We only acquired a couple of months ago, do you think the previous owners could have played with it?
 
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....just do proper coding
no matter who did and what did before
 
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Success!!!!

Thanks for your advice Spacewalker, I changed the coding on the MFSW and the horn and buttons are working fine now.
Such a simple fix but without VCDS, I would still be guessing.

Uwe, I also changed out the MAP sensor and reset the fault. I will see how it goes.
There was a bit of oil/gunk on the sensor and I could see build up on the surface of the pipe when I pulled it out.
I will do a bit more research and see if this is normal, or there is a problem.

Thanks again guys.
 
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