2002 Eurovan, G85 Steering Angle Sensor NOT OK @ calibration (basic setting)

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After replacing a faulty steering angle sensor (old one was dead at 0.0 deg no matter of actual wheel position), I'm unable to successfully calibrate the replacement unit. I'm always starting with recoding the ABS, but every time I find the Alignment Status as 'Not OK' instead of OK under Basic Setting Group1.

The new steering angle sensor outputs logical values from Measuring Block 5 (~+/-700deg range, @ 0.0deg when driving straight).

I'm using correct logins and coding for Eurovan/Transporter 7D: login 07669, coding 06639, WSC: 12345, login 40168.

I've tried
  • Various sequences (including Bentley and Ross-Tech procedures): with the engine running, engine off + ignition on, driving for various short distances slowly in a straight line
  • Clearing the error codes prior to calibration
  • discharging any stored memory by connecting pos/neg battery leads.
Since the sensor is working and displaying logical values... is there another way to get the coding and calibration resolved?

Every once in a while I get an error code and VCDS disconnects from the car... could I be having a latency issue? Do I need to try another OBD reader/system??

Any help is appreciated,
-Brendan

Full auto-scan:
Code:
Chassis Type: 70 (7D - VW Transporter/Multivan (1996 > 2004))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 18 19 22 25 35 37 56

VIN: WV2NB47082H026879   Mileage: 270780km-168254miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 022-906-032-AXK.lbl
    Part No: 022 906 032 AF
    Component: MOTRONIC ME7.1  G   0003
    Coding: 00013
    Shop #: WSC 02743
    VCID: 4FADB5778D0AE8F30A-5122

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 1101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 01P-927-733.lbl
    Part No: 01P 927 733 CG
    Component: AG4 Getriebe 01P    4893
    Coding: 00000
    Shop #: WSC 00000
    VCID: 7AFB34A366089D5B8D-095C

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 7D0-907-379.lbl
    Part No: 7D0 907 379 D
    Component: ESP 5.3 T4 FRONT    V26
    Coding: 00000
    Shop #: WSC 00000
    VCID: 326BDC83FEF8A51B05-5122

2 Faults Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
             66-10 - Not Matched - Intermittent
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
             35-00 - -

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1J0-909-60x-VW3.lbl
    Part No: 1J0 909 603 BM
    Component: AIRBAG VW3 -        V04
    Coding: 16973
    Shop #: WSC 02743
    VCID: 75E1279F4F16F223E0-4B1A

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 7D0-920-xxx-17.lbl
    Part No: 7D0 920 902 T
    Component: T4-KOMBIINSTR. VDO V01
    Coding: 03235
    Shop #: WSC 02743
    VCID: 3561E79F0F96B22320-5122

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
    Part No: 6N0 909 901
    Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001
    Coding: 00003
    Shop #: WSC 02743
    VCID: 70EF168B3074D70B33-5122

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 6X0-953-257.lbl
    Part No: 6X0 953 257
    Component: IMMO                0008
    Coding: 00001
    Shop #: WSC 26030
    VCID: 7DF13FBF7726AA63A8-4B00
    WV2NB47082H026879     VWZ1Z0A1611157

No fault code found.

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Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels: 7D0-959-800.lbl
    Part No: 7D0 959 800 C
    Component:    Funksteuergerát  0001
    Coding: 00001
    Shop #: WSC 02743
    VCID: 2D51CFFFE7C6FAE358-4AE8

No fault code found.

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Hi Brendan,

It sounds like you are using the correct steps so a drop in communication or latency issue may explain the issues. Is the Windows 10 Laptop running on internal battery power when performing all 3 steps in the 03-ABS module? Do you happen to have another Windows based PC that you can use in conjunction with VCDS to rule out any issues specific to the current laptop?
 
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Yes, laptops have been using internal batteries... could it help to plug in?

I was until recently using a dinosaur/old laptop and then switched to the laptop I use daily for work (Lenovo ThinkPad) that seems like it should be capable.
 
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Internal battery power is best.

Powering the laptop via an adapter (like a cig lighter) from the vehicle battery could expose the interface to a ground loop so I wanted to make sure that wasn't the case/cause of goofy issues.​
Powering the laptop via AC outlet with the factory charger is fine as long as you aren't using a battery charger (on the vehicle 12V battery) at the same time.​
If you haven't tried using that dinosaur for this particular repair I would blow the dust off and give it a shot. Ideally you would want a newer PC for a sanity check but the old one should be fine as long as it isn't running a bunch of programs in the background on startup.
 
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Question, when you do Coding , do you see new Coding in Extra before you do G85 ?
 
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The older computer also results with the same ‘Not OK’.

Jetta97- Soft coding and WSC fields do show 06639 and 12345 after coding, but I’m not sure what you mean by ‘extra’. They only show once, not duplicated. I have also tried repeat coding like the VW tech bulletin suggests and the cells appear to just get overwritten.
 
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Could this be a sign the ABS module is bad as well? I never had any other fault codes besides the steering angle sensor and the car drives Ok but I haven’t tried a panic stop!
 
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The older computer also results with the same ‘Not OK’.

Jetta97- Soft coding and WSC fields do show 06638 and 12345 after coding, but I’m not sure what you mean by ‘extra’. They only show once, not duplicated. I have also tried repeat coding like the VW tech bulletin suggests and the cells appear to just get overwritten.
Sorry made mistake in Writing, I meant to say, After you do Coding in MAIN Screen where says Soft Coding,do you see 00000 or number you enter 06639?
 
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I see 06639 in the soft coding cell. It eventually goes back to 00000 after basic setting fails and I leave the ABS Brakes Control Module
 
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I see 06639 in the soft coding cell. It eventually goes back to 00000 after basic setting fails and I leave the ABS Brakes Control Module
It sounds like there's something wrong, either with the steering angle sensor itself, or with the procedure you're using to adapt it, or perhaps even with the ABS module.

-Uwe-
 
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