GTI MK7 base model S 8 sensor PDC install

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MAS12843-Maneuvering brake function activated 1
Deactivate that and see if that makes a difference. If not, then re-activate it.
What exact error are you experiencing when trying to use the PDC? Do the sensors come on and display on the screen? What would help is a scan using a V2 cable.
 
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Myounus,
ok I'll try that, so what happens is, as soon as I turn the key to on I immediately get a park pilot fault on the cluster display, radio display, and center console with switch flashing. If i press the switch the system goes off and flashing stops. I then reset thru VCDS and faults clear until i restart car again and it all come s back.

The display never shows the lines when I shift in reverse I see my display come on with video but no park sensors indicate in the display.



the VCDS faults are the same in both controllers 5F 1555 - Check Software Version Management B201A 00 [009] [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]

10 Databus U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
 
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Myounus,
ok I entered the security code and opened adaptations and found AS12843-Maneuvering brake function activated
I tried deactivating and still nothing.
 
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one more thing is whats a V2 cable?
 
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oh never mind your talking about the new Ross-tech HEX-V2 cable, yea im a strapped for cash.
 
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With hex+can (the old cable) it's really difficult to get to the root problem as it does not show from which source the missing messages are coming from. Hex-V2 shows the extended UDS data for trouble codes as well and it helps to understand what exactly is missing or is incorrectly coded.
With MQB platform cars it is more than required to have a newer cable. The old one unfortunately is getting really badly outdated.
 
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ok got it thanks, i guess ill have to purchase one.
 
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You will but it makes fault finding really easy or is this case coding issues. Speak to UWE and see what deals are on.
 
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I will thank you.
 
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ok just made my purchase, (dont tell my wife LoL). hope to have it by next week and will go from there.
 
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:thumbs: Good. Because the pdc module should work no matter basically what are the parameters in it. Now that it does not, indicates something is not correct in the coding or incorrect connection somewhere. Hex2 will give you much more detailed information about that.
 
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Oh I agree, I have gone over the connections 5 times and as per the sellers instructions they are correct. Noe the thing is that the switch works, the module powers up, im able to code, so that tells me the as for wiring I should be ok. Again I'll wait and will up date you, thanks again.
 
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Yes, but your cable only shows the descriptions for the bits in the static label file. New cable deciphers the UDS data and it shows much more + like said many times before, it tells you the extended info for the trouble codes as well
 

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Ok everyone here is the new scan with my new V2 cable, this thing is awsome and thanks to ross tech for your help with the purchase.
anyway here we go again LoL

oh ignore the light code fault as i had my light disconnected for bumper cover install


I see a fault with the Ebrake but if Im reading this correct its for a electronic brake which I dont have plus dont know where to change this?


Code:
Friday,30,April,2021,12:57:02:08609
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 21.3.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4543.4
Data version: 20210226 DS325.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: Tony's VW_4_life

VIN: 3VW5T7AU5HM066511   License Plate: RED GTI PDC FLTS
Mileage: 9470km-5884mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (3Q0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F 75 A9

VIN: 3VW5T7AU5HM066511   Mileage: 9470km-5884miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
75-Telematics -- Status: OK 0000
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CXCA)       Labels:. 06K-907-425-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 906 259 L    HW: 06K 907 425 B
   Component: 2.0l R4 TFSI  H13 0002 
   Revision: --H13---   
   Coding: 091900322424002F0000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259L 001004
   ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259L.rod
   VCID: 372B22D73FCF9EA37E9-8062

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:* 5Q0-907-379-ESP-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 614 517 AQ    HW: 5Q0 614 517 AF
   Component: ESC           H62 0400 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 51147000001983
   Coding: 01FA6BA134260972407C020180C42980D62C90024001943400435050C009430000000012121212B835351919323200
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 036010
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP_036.rod
   VCID: 0059890B2A81191B8F3-8054

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 5G0-907-426.clb
   Part No SW: 5GM 907 426 E    HW: 5GM 907 426 E
   Component: AC Manuell    H03 1801 
   Revision: 00001K04   
   Coding: 00020004200100000000000000000002
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X 004134
   ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X_004.rod
   VCID: 4ACD6B235C3D134B117-801E

   Fresh air blower control module (front):

   A/C pressure/coolant temperature sensor:

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 5Q0-937-08X-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 087 AN    HW: 5Q0 937 087 AN
   Component: BCM PQ37BOSCH 032 0223 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: C86420041701R6
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00149
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc 017002
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_017.rod
   VCID: 074B92170FAF2E23CE9-8052

   Wiper motor control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G1 955 119 A    HW: 5G1 955 119   Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
   Component: WWS    170304  043 0551
   Serial number: 97022066170318005905
   Coding: 0E4DDD

2 Faults Found:
15626 - Bulb for Left Brake Lamp / Turn Signal
          B1333 15 [009] - Open or Short to Plus
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 195
                    Mileage: 9470 km
                    Date: 2021.04.30
                    Time: 10:37:53

15882 - Bulb for Right Brake Lamp / Turn Signal
          B1334 15 [009] - Open or Short to Plus
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 195
                    Mileage: 9470 km
                    Date: 2021.04.30
                    Time: 10:37:53


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
   Part No SW: 5QD 919 294 J    HW: 5QA 919 294
   Component: PDC 8 KanalH07 0443 
   Serial number: 000308418218348
   Coding: 0431651001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 009035
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000.rod
   VCID: 56F58F53988547AB85F-8002

1 Fault Found:
12658704 - Databus
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [Steuergerät für elektrische Park-/Handbremse-J540 - EPB_01 - kein Signal/keine Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 195
                    Mileage: 9470 km
                    Date: 2021.04.30
                    Time: 12:54:57


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 J    HW: 5Q0 959 655 J
   Component: AirbagVW20    010 0830 
   Serial number: 003GCR07PRJ7
   Coding: 8CCCFC00000000005000001AC24800000065
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002144
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
   VCID: 47CB52174F2FEE230E9-8012

   Seat occupied recognition passenger side:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339 B    HW: 4M0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H13 0022
   Serial number: IBH0000000000071T2ON
   Coding: 30305A

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 704 17
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887
   Serial number: 357000000003747D622G
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 704 17
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887
   Serial number: 35800000000B0A2C622I
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 704 17
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  000 6149
   Serial number: 3510001B7257C422E70/
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 704 17
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  000 6149
   Serial number: 3520001C7257C426D476
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 603 17
   Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149
   Serial number: 3550002B924F384181FA
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 603 17
   Component: FrontSensor_P  001 6149
   Serial number: 3560002B924F3845C28D
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 FT    HW: 5Q0 953 549 F
   Component: Lenks. Modul  003 0140 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 31031704221018
   Coding: 0400
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 020002
   ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_020_VW37.rod
   VCID: 0D47A03F6DD34473F45-8058

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 5G1 920 856 B    HW: 5G1 920 856 B
   Component: KOMBI         344 8311 
   Coding: 0BBD09022180CF0502086A001001000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009051
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
   VCID: 2D0700BFCD932473145-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 3Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 530 B    HW: 3Q0 907 530 B
   Component: GW MQB Mid    517 5286 
   Serial number: 30051700840073
   Coding: 0101000870085900FB000028080F00000001050000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00215
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewNF 013020
   ROD: EV_GatewNF_VW37.rod
   VCID: 2E0507B3C0955F6B2DF-807A

   Generator:

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 Q    HW: 5G0 959 442 Q  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H11 0103
   Serial number: 29170000129990067045
   Coding: 30FFFF

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 E    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
   Component: TSG FS        020 0041 
   Serial number: 160517A0080CLA
   Coding: 003F03205000020000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 43D346077B17C203D21-8016

   Rear Driver Side Door Control Module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 D    HW: 5Q4 959 811 D  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: Fond FHSG DRV  007 0002
   Serial number: 00000000000006346821
   Coding: 011000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 3QM 909 144     HW: 3QM 909 144
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  506 5072 
   Coding: 8102
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00149
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 013144
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_013.rod
   VCID: 0C41AD3B16C94D7BE3B-8058

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 E    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS       020 0041 
   Serial number: 160517A00801Z8
   Coding: 003F03205E00020000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 42DD4303640DCB0BD97-8016

   Rear Passenger Door Control Module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 D    HW: 5Q4 959 812 D  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: Fond FHSG PSG  007 0002
   Serial number: 00000000000005234289
   Coding: 091000

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 035 844 A    HW: 3Q0 035 844 A
   Component: MU-S-S-US     710 0753 
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 02730000FF00000051220001001808009F0203D40120010002
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CDELP 001001
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CDELP_VW26.rod
   VCID: 2D0700BFCD932473145-8078

   Display and control head 1 for information electronics:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G6 919 605 C    HW: 5G6 919 605 C
   Component: ABT_Std-2  252 8130
   Serial number: VWZ6ZMW0466181     

2 Faults Found:
6922 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          [Park assist OPS (0x0A) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_timeout: heartbeat]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 235
                    Mileage: 9470 km
                    Date: 2021.04.29
                    Time: 14:26:15

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.2 V

7178 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          [Park assist OPS (0x0A) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 235
                    Mileage: 9470 km
                    Date: 2021.04.29
                    Time: 14:26:18

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.2 V
                    BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02


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Address 75: Telematics (J949)       Labels:| 5QE-035-285.clb
   Part No SW: 5QE 035 285 A    HW: 5QE 035 285 A
   Component: OCULowMQBUS   007 0570 
   Coding: 02730002C2821A017F1E06000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00215
   ASAM Dataset: EV_OCULowMQB 001006
   ROD: EV_OCULowMQB.rod
   VCID: 43D346077B17C203D21-8016

No fault code found.

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Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869)       Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 907 159     HW: 4H0 907 159 A
   Component: SAS-GEN 2     H06 0014 
   Serial number: 170318201005
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
   ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X.rod
   VCID: 6B83CEA73307EA434A1-803E

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:14, VBatt start/end: 11.8V/12.3V)-----------
 

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Als forgive my ignorance but whats up with my ABS coding Coding: 01FA6BA134260972407C020180C42980D62C90024001943400435050C009430000000012121212B835351919323200
I've never seen one this long no punt intended.

so I was trying to go to long coding in ABS to see if there is a bit for Electronic Ebrake but its all check boxes with no way to know what they mean.

reason for my search is the park assist fault about ebrake msg in module 10

( U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message [Steuergerät für elektrische Park-/Handbremse-J540 - EPB_01 - kein Signal/keine Kommunikation] )

google translater

( U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message [Control unit for electric parking / handbrake-J540 - EPB_01 - no signal / no communication])

Im I in the rite path? probably not lol. or should I be looking in CAN bus Module? anyway any help is great thanks.
 

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Electronic parking brake is in the module 10 dataset. That is something you can’t change with coding. You need to flash it with proper dataset, which VCDS cannot do unfortunately.
But that is not the problem why pdc does not work.

Just to be sure, to which can bus you connected the park pilot module?
 

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oh ok, well as per the instructions I connected the two wires from module 10 26 pin connector T26 pins 17 and 23 to the CAN bus module 10 pin connector pins 8 and 18 and I confirmed per the kit wiring instructions.

But I know that these Chinese kits some times are not correct. Unfortunately I don't have wiring diagrams for this car. But I can get alldate from a friend of mine jsut dont know if they have VW prints, but Ill ask a friend who has access, thanks.
 

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as per what I found on line I'm connected to the can bus connector module 20 pin.

running gear sensors can bus low pin 8
running gear sensors can bus high pin 18

can you confirm, thanks.
 

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^^^^hmmm.......... from my MK7 WD:
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Again according to my WD, pin # T26i /17 on the J446 connector is wired to K136 Parking aid warning lamp on the EX30 Switch module 2 in centre console

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yes thats what I have and I even had a second set of eyes and sure is connected that way, thanks DV52.
Well here is an update I just received the park assist controller I purchased from ebay and according to seller its from a GTI Mk7 and every thing seems to work but still have the dreaded fault on my display maneuver braking function currently not available however when I shift in reverse all sensors come up.

Ill post new scan in a bit.
 
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