Egt and oil temp sensors

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Hello, I have a 2015 golf TDI with about 164000 km with the VW emissions fix. In a basic settings scan I found the following data


Thursday,18,February,2021,18:16:32:41366
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.12.0.1 (x64)
Data version: 20201125 DS322.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VWRA7AU4FM062678

IDE05387 Exhaust gas model temperature 1 127.8 °C
IDE05388 Exhaust gas model temperature 2 120.6 °C
IDE05389 Exhaust gas model temperature 3 107.5 °C
IDE05390 Exhaust gas model temperature 4 -0.0 °C

Number 4 temperature never changes at any time. I assume this is a sensor and if so, is it a bad sensor? Or perhaps unused?

There are no engine fault codes to suggest a problem. If it is a used sensor, where is it located?

On a similar note, I have an oil temp sensor, also never changing in temperature:

IDE06391 Oil temperature sensor 2 -0.0 °C

I would appreciate any help in interpretation of the two fixed temp readings. Thank you in advance!
 
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Please could you post a full unedited VCDS Auto-Scan of your Golf so the experts can see the details of the modules and engine fitted to your car.

They need this to see what sensors are fitted and hence answer your questions.
 
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Please could you post a full unedited VCDS Auto-Scan of your Golf so the experts can see the details of the modules and engine fitted to your car.

They need this to see what sensors are fitted and hence answer your questions.
Hi, I hope this is what you are requesting....I'm a little green at this.... :)

Code:
Tuesday,23,February,2021,10:25:46:41366
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.12.0.1 (x64)
Data version: 20201125 DS322.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VWRA7AU4FM062678   License Plate: BTR
Mileage: 164202km-102030mi   Repair Order: feb22 21



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Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5Q0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 20 42 44 52 5F

VIN: 3VWRA7AU4FM062678   Mileage: 164202km-102030miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CRUA)       Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04L 997 022 M    HW: 04L 907 309
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H23 9458 
   Revision: 85H23---   
   Coding: 01190012832410080000
   Shop #: WSC 93229 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L997022M 004002
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L997022M.rod
   VCID: 3A70DDD1BDFE0F540C-806E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-ESP-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 379 P    HW: 3Q0 907 379 C
   Component: ESC           H32 0385 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 53244000002817
   Coding: 01FA6AA12426096E007D020781CB2580562490004081A4B200630050C002
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 034033
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP_034_VW37.rod
   VCID: 4796B425FE0C62BC83-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5GM 907 044 A    HW: 5GM 907 044 A
   Component: Climatronic   H03 1001 
   Revision: 00001K01   
   Coding: 00020114200100010005000000101400
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 003018
   ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_003_VW37.rod
   VCID: 4280A531D52E479454-8016

   Fresh air blower control module (front):

   A/C pressure/coolant temperature sensor:

   Air quality sensor:

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 087 R    HW: 5Q0 937 087 R
   Component: BCM PQ37BOSCH 028 0145 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 86582411140618
   Coding: 00100946404182E949E44000091407001000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00020
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc 014004
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_014.rod
   VCID: 4A908D11ED1E9FD49C-801E

   Wiper motor control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5GM 955 119     HW: 5GM 955 119   Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
   Component: WWS    140824  043 0581
   Serial number:         141224023331
   Coding: 0E4DDD

   Rain/Light Recognition Sensor:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 A    HW: 5Q0 955 547 A  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Component: RLHS  037 0059
   Serial number: S5Y14M11D24H03M27S03
   Coding: 00A8DD

   Sunroof control module:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8V3 959 591 A    HW: 8V3 959 591 A
   Component: J245 PS73.404  H02 0003
   Serial number: 0000FST0000CS4800000
   Coding: 181801

   Humidity sensor: interior:

5 Faults Found:
17674 - Bulb for Front Left Side Marker Lamp
          B12BA 15 [008] - Open or Short to Plus
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 71
                    Reset counter: 96
                    Mileage: 128171 km
                    Date: 2019.05.09
                    Time: 21:04:53

263442 - Siren / Alarm Horn for Anti-Theft Alarm System
          B131D F7 [008] - No Release by Immobilizer
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

204290 - Remote key 1
          B1479 18 [008] - Current Too Low
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

204546 - Remote key 2
          B147A 18 [008] - Current Too Low
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

329480 - Heated Passenger Seat
          B1806 F0 [008] - Safety Shut-Off due to Occupant Detection
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 152
                    Reset counter: 101
                    Mileage: 153607 km
                    Date: 2020.06.16
                    Time: 17:08:39


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 T    HW: 5Q0 959 655 T
   Component: AirbagVW20    009 0825 
   Serial number: 003MHM01GW0R
   Coding: 8CCCFC00000000005000001AC24800000065
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002138
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
   VCID: 51A29A7D0048AC0CDD-8004

   Seat occupied recognition passenger side:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339 B    HW: 4M0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0021
   Serial number: IBH0000J140002331I0B
   Coding: 303135

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 410 14
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887
   Serial number: 357000000002F941711C
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 410 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887
   Serial number: 35800000000CB794711P
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 710 14
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149
   Serial number: 3510002BD18166B0B340
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 810 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149
   Serial number: 3520002B7175A8E4C27E
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 411 14
   Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149
   Serial number: 3550002A11860BA4A23
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 411 14
   Component: FrontSensor_P  001 6149
   Serial number: 3560002A11860BA5C21/
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J524)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 953 521 K    HW: 5Q0 953 569 A
   Component: Lenks.Modul   075 0175 
   Revision: FF032032    Serial number: 20141105500088
   Coding: 0400
   Shop #: WSC 66564 385 16448
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB 001015
   ROD: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB.rod
   VCID: 3A70DDD1BDFE0F540C-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 5G1 920 741     HW: 5G1 920 741
   Component: KOMBI         243 4270 
   Coding: 0BB41A0121808809020868001000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00202
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009037
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW37.rod
   VCID: 64CC43A96FFA29A486-8030

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AC    HW: 5Q0 907 530 M
   Component: GW MQB High   212 2203 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 13121410000664
   Coding: 0101000800087300EF000208080F00000001050000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07027
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewConti 011020
   ROD: EV_GatewConti_011.rod
   VCID: 72E035F1A50EB71404-8026

   Generator:

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 P    HW: 5G0 959 442 P  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H16 0101
   Serial number: 29140002539860074482
   Coding: 28FFFF

No fault code found.

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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels:| 8X0-857-511.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 857 511 D    HW: 5G0 857 511
   Component: FLA           H04 0002 
   Revision: AA001001   
   Coding: 01018864727264565625393E01
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU37X 001009
   ROD: EV_HighBeamAssisAU37X.rod
   VCID: 2B5EE89542A4A6DC87-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 393 B    HW: 5Q0 959 393 B
   Component: TSG FS        020 0025 
   Serial number: 271114060501VQ
   Coding: 003003200000040000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMINKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 3E78D1C1A1D6237430-806A

   Rear Driver Side Door Control Module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 D    HW: 5Q4 959 811 D  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: Fond FHSG DRV  007 0002
   Serial number: 00000000000000387546
   Coding: 011000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 R    HW: 5Q0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  125 1061 
   Coding: 0102
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00202
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 012140
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_012_VW37.rod
   VCID: 438EA035CA344E9C5F-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 392 B    HW: 5Q0 959 392 B
   Component: TSG BFS       020 0025 
   Serial number: 211114060506AN
   Coding: 003003200000040000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMINKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 3D7AD6CDACD0386C29-8068

   Rear Passenger Door Control Module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 D    HW: 5Q4 959 812 D  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: Fond FHSG PSG  007 0002
   Serial number: 00000000000000364440
   Coding: 091000

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD1.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 035 844     HW: 5G0 035 844
   Component: MU-S-S-US     014 0645 
   Serial number: V7B02211142973
   Coding: 02730000FF00000021220001001800001F0100140100010002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07027
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002040
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_VW37.rod
   VCID: 64CC43A96FFA29A486-8030

   Display and control head 1 for information electronics:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 605 H    HW: 5G0 919 605 H
   Component: ABT_Std_Plus  H60 0030
   Serial number: VWZ8Z9PS500XW2     

1 Fault Found:
0023 - Tuner for Satellite Radio
          B11CF 96 [008] - Component internal failure
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 91
                    Mileage: 163536 km
                    Date: 2021.02.02
                    Time: 17:38:39

                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.6 V


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I would appreciate any help in interpretation of the two fixed temp readings.
My interpretation: The ECU software could support those additional temperature inputs, but they are not used in the implementation in your particular car.

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My interpretation: The ECU software could support those additional temperature inputs, but they are not used in the implementation in your particular car.

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Perfect, thanks for the reply!
 
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