Highline BCM in Startline caddy, 2017

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Hi all..got myself a 2017 Startline Caddy just before xmas, I've had GTi bumper put on and would like to utilise the foglamps as DRLs. I wanted to do it properly and not just hijack a feed from the current DRL's so set out on a voyage of discovery, bought the service manual, found the Fog lamp feeds on the BCM, wired up a quick test circuit in the footwell and..nothing. Scratched my head for a while then snapped a pic of the pins on the BCM, and of course the Fog feeds were absent. I snapped up a new Highline BMC, PN:5K0937087AC and have reviewed a few guides on swapping them, non specific to mine however, so to cut a long story short, does anyone know definitively whether the new one will have Component Protection? I've had mixed feedback from various sources.

I've upgraded the original MFSW to one with ACC controls with a view to getting that working, but after some research that seems a tougher nut to crack than Foglights so I'll save that for another day :o

Apologies for the scan format too, If someone would be kind enough to share the correct technique for attaching the data.

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Friday,22,January,2021,16:33:54:51394
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.12.0.1 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4529.4
Data version: 20201125 DS322.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZJX022745   License Plate: GJ67
Mileage: 61710km-38344mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 2K-VN35 (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 09 13 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 5F 61

VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZJX022745   Mileage: 61710km-38344miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-DFSD)       Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04L 906 016 MH    HW: 04L 907 309 K
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H20 4090
   Revision: 8AH20---  
   Coding: 01110010040509090000
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906016MH 001001
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906016MH.rod
   VCID: 7BA208130369ECF3260-802E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK100ESC.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 P    HW: 7E0 907 379 M
   Component: ESC           H06 0133
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 62207000002015
   Coding: 1079409B9264A480087C027A498725E379F100
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESCCONTIVN75XGP2 011001
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESCCONTIVN75XGP2_011.rod
   VCID: 3FDABC0357F130D34A8-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 085 AD    HW: 5K0 937 085 AD
   Component: BCM PQ35 B+   122 0186
   Revision: BB122001  
   Coding: 5F1A583A802B086A48CA0000B500006407610008424F0160648087000045
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   VCID: 75B61E2B25CDBA83504-8020

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 2K2 955 119 D  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 19071  26  0512
   Coding: 009795

3 Faults Found:
01800 - Light Switch (E1)
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 248
                    Mileage: 61656 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2021.01.18
                    Time: 15:58:29

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.10 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

02394 - Parking Light Left Front (M1)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 209
                    Mileage: 61652 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2021.01.17
                    Time: 14:41:58

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 10.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF

02395 - Parking Light Front Right (M3)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 249
                    Mileage: 61656 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2021.01.18
                    Time: 16:48:24

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.00 V
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 7N0-907-572.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 572 C    HW: 7N0 907 572
   Component: ACC Bosch PQx H03 0211
   Serial number: 0708170464A17C
   Coding: 00080002FE133B
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCBEGVW361 001006
   ROD: EV_ACCBEGVW361.rod
   VCID: 3634D92778CBF19B99E-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 2K5 959 655 B    HW: 2K5 959 655 B
   Component: VW10Airbag00K H08 0018
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003V100535NS
   Coding: 00000000000000000000000000000000304B
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001028
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
   VCID: 3B22C81343E92CF3660-806E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 3497ARB40614PCOCMHE/

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Serial number: 3507ARB40594S60GHHB8

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 521 GE    HW: 5K0 953 569 BF
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   018 0230
   Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20170807200177
   Coding: 1002C60100
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C 001001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C.rod
   VCID: 75B61E2B254DBA83504-8020

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5TA 959 442 B    HW: 5TA 959 442 B
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H06 0023
   Serial number: 2131702215000206AP2B
   Coding: 2F0000

1 Fault Found:
97284 - Databus
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 206
                    Mileage: 61649 km
                    Date: 2021.01.14
                    Time: 11:33:11


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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 2K5 920 976 E    HW: 2K5 920 976 E
   Component: KOMBI         H04 1107
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 410A200200
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05733
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3828D71F72DF07EB8B2-806C

1 Fault Found:
13654544 - Databus
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [Steuergerät für Telefon keine Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 56
                    Reset counter: 209
                    Mileage: 61644 km
                    Date: 2021.01.12
                    Time: 15:12:02


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 BL    HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: J533  Gateway H56 1682
   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 080817F1000548
   Coding: 357421
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 7BA2081303E9ECF3260-802E

1 Fault Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 206
                    Mileage: 61647 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2021.01.13
                    Time: 12:42:47


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H04 1107
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW23.rod
   VCID: 6A8C3D577CF3657BCD6-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 2K5 959 701     HW: 2K5 959 701
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2144
   Coding: 0131632
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 71BE2A3B5DA596A38CC-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 140    3501
   Revision: 00H22000  
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 392ED21B45551EE374C-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 2K5 959 702     HW: 2K5 959 702
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2144
   Coding: 0131632
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 72BC253758A3ADBB756-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr.
Cannot be reached

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: Batt.regelung H56 1682
   Serial number: 080817F1000548
   Coding: 030F7873
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 71BE2A3B51A596A38CC-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 2K0 915 181     HW: 2K0 915 181
   Component: J367-BDMConti  H03 1050
   Serial number: 75885800001708120AB1

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 00:59, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/12.0V)-----------

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Address 16,5K0 953 521 GE,recoded (Long Coding-exp),from,1002C60100,to,9000C60100,(12345/123/61029)
 
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Apologies for the scan format too, If someone would be kind enough to share the correct technique for attaching the data.
I've added CODE tags to your scan as explained here.

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No component protection on 5K0937087AC BCM's as far as I'm aware :)
 
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5K0 937 086 AA that BCM comes in my Caddy Highline with foglights
 
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Cheers guys :thumbs:

I'll have a crack at it tomorrow. Worse case scenario and CP is triggered, would reverting back to my current BCM resolve any issues, or would it still throw a wobbler?

Ghost: This was advertised with xenon functionality :confused: duno if that's the difference, I just checked the pics for Fog pins :)
 
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Worse case scenario and CP is triggered, would reverting back to my current BCM resolve any issues, or would it still throw a wobbler?

@Niq-o: As @langers2k says - No CP.

CP works like this: the CP master module (not sure which module this is on a caddy) will trigger CP error just after the ignition switch-on cycle if the identity of the BCM is different to the identity of the module at the previous ignition cycle when there was no CP error. So the CP master module is looking for BCM details that previously passed the CP test.

If you remove the existing BCM and then re-install the same BCM - the identity of the module will have exactly the correct details that the CP master module has recorded in its database - result=no CP error (and no "wobbler")!!

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on caddy, passat cc, tiguan pq35 etc... cp master module is cluster, cp constellation is cluster, gateway and 5f maybe ecu but im not sure about ecu
there is no cp on bcm
 
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Just to point out, your BCM byte 18 is currently 00 - assuming I can count...

Unless the new BCM also came from a similar Caddy, you'll probably have issues with the lighting configuration :(
 
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Just to point out, your BCM byte 18 is currently 00 - assuming I can count...

Unless the new BCM also came from a similar Caddy, you'll probably have issues with the lighting configuration :(

Cheers dude.. I'll pay close attention to that when I swap it, and see what's what.
 
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OK, so new BCM is in. Obviously a long list of things to work through, my initial problem is getting the keyfobs to pair. Followed the guides, but not getting the confirmation from the indicators, the van starts and operates fine, just no remote action :confused:
 
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OK, so new BCM is in. Obviously a long list of things to work through, my initial problem is getting the keyfobs to pair. Followed the guides, but not getting the confirmation from the indicators, the van starts and operates fine, just no remote action :confused:

Disregard..

Just took the keys from the ignition and they're both working fine :rolleyes:
 
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Well that was a mostly successful endeavour.. quick test of the foglamps proved successful, just need the correct terminals for the 52pin plug and I'll wire those in.

cpl issues though (of course)..

main one being the headunit isn't powering down with the ignition off, more so the remote wire is staying hot keeping the amplifier on too.

and I'm getting a bulb error for the reverse lamp.. guessing due to it being LED, or maybe something to do with what Langers2k pointed out?
 
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