2011 Touareg 7P Steering Fault

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The car just threw this fault out nowhere. Now it has no ignition and no start, Just a message on the dash that says "steering Fault". My research leads me to believe there is a module in the steering column that has gone bad. The question is what do I need to do before and after I replace this module? I am going to run a full scan, but I fear many of the modules will not respond since the ignition has been disabled. But I'm going to give it a try and see. I will post the results.
 
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So no luck with a scan. VCDS gives me a no communication error. I assume because there is no ignition on and the OBD system is not powered up. What now?
 
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What's the exact message from VCDS?

Try going directly to 19-CAN gateway and see if it talks and has any faults. Also try 05-Acc/Start Auth.

There may also be some song-and-dance involving the brake pedal and possibly the hazard light switch that can get enough things powered up to communicate, but I don't have exact details for this vehicle.

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I agree with Uwe. Do see if 05 or 19 will respond directly. There are 3 primary methods to wake broken KESSY cars. Those were:

* Foot on brake pedal (for roughly 20 seconds) before turning on the ignition.
* High beam stalk held in the flash to pass position.
* 4-way flasher / hazard light switch on.

You can do all 3 at the same time when in doubt.

Just make sure to keep the battery fully charged and keep in mind the dash/terminal 15 does NOT magically wake up and turn on. Instead, this wake-up process only lets you communicate to modules (such as 05 and 19). However, providing 05 communicates and has an intermittent DTC that can be cleared the vehicle may power on properly until the problem reoccurs.
 
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The message from VCDS says "Failure to Communicate (0), Please use (options) > (Test) for further details."
When I go to options > Test, it appears to be communicating with the interface.

No luck getting into 19-CAN or 5-CAN. I get the same error on both.
 
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OK, I got in.....thanks for the suggestions. Here is my scan.


Code:
Friday,22,January,2021,10:14:05:31491
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 20.12.0.1 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4529.4
Data version: 20201125 DS322.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVGFK9BPXBD005152   License Plate:
Mileage: 215433km-133863mi   Repair Order:


Chassis Type: BP-VW52 (7P6)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 36 42 46 47 52 53 55 56 5F
          62 65 69 6C 6D 72

VIN: WVGFK9BPXBD005152   Mileage: 215433km-133863miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
15-Airbags -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CATA)       Labels:. 059-907-401-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7P0 907 401 J    HW: 7P0 907 401 E
   Component: 3.0TDI FSA    H17 0008 
   Revision: 56H17---   
   Coding: 292A4012233600050000
   Shop #: WSC 04938 444 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TDI0117P0907401J 002007
   ROD: EV_ECM30TDI0117P0907401J_002.rod
   VCID: 3635209428C0CD8B99E-8062

3 Faults Found:
16871 - Diesel Particle Filter; Differential Pressure Sensor
          P2453 00 [096] - Implausible Signal
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 215081 km
                    Date: 2021.01.10
                    Time: 13:00:01

                    Engine RPM: 1706.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 89.4 %
                    Vehicle speed: 103 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 93 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 11 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.560 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 34
                    Exhaust gas jet volume in particle filter: 429.3 m³/h
                    Particle filter: difference pressure: 72 hPa
                    Particle filter: soot mass measured: 7.56 g
                    Particle filter: soot mass calculated: 5.39 g
                    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 3: 450.2 °C
                    Exhaust gas temperature sensor 4: 545.4 °C

9690 - Sensor for NOx (G295)
          P1032 00 [096] - Signal too High
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

5523 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
          P1570 00 [096] - -
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 6
                    Mileage: 214837 km
                    Date: 2020.12.30
                    Time: 19:20:12

                    Engine RPM: 1080.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 23.9 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 11 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 12 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 10.940 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 25

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 02: Auto Trans
Cannot be reached

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Address 03: ABS Brakes
Cannot be reached

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 AK    HW: 4H0 907 064 AK
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H24 0217 
   Revision: 00002001   
   Coding: 0D860000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 72BDDC8404A891AB756-8026

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4H0 905 852 B    HW: 4H0 905 852 B
   Component: J764 ELV MLB  H38 0044
   Serial number: 2311000016905004   

2 Faults Found:
02811 - Control Module for Electronic Steering Column Lock (J764)
            014 - Defective - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101110
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 2
                    Mileage: 215433 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2021.01.19
                    Time: 09:19:18

02823 - Requirements for Locking the Steering Column Lock not met
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 2
                    Mileage: 215433 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2021.01.19
                    Time: 14:06:49


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 7P6-907-040.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 907 040 AG    HW: 7P6 907 040 AG
   Component: Klima 2 Zonen H18 0613 
   Coding: B686200A80
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiFront 004001
   ROD: EV_AirCondiFront_VW52.rod
   VCID: 79AFEBA8595EE2F334C-802C

1 Fault Found:
0243 - Function Restriction due to Faults in Other Modules
          U1113 00 [008] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 54
                    Reset counter: 39
                    Mileage: 214211 km
                    Date: 2020.12.03
                    Time: 10:46:04


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 4H0-907-063-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 063 L    HW: 4H0 907 063 D
   Component: BCM1 2.0      H12 0092 
   Revision: 15012002    Serial number: 00000000798690
   Coding: 26005092973C5D010020180300005D0C431C660882010261000000020000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   VCID: 313F1388C12EEAB3CCC-8064

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P0 955 119     HW: 7P0 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS    110220  31  0020
   Serial number: 90243400110226073912
   Coding: 004DBD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7P0 955 559 D    HW: 7P0 955 559 D  Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLFS  H09 0011
   Serial number: 10128277           
   Coding: 035223

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7P6 941 431 E    HW: 7P6 941 431 E
   Component: E1 - LDS  H04 0031
   Serial number: 00000000001702110581

1 Fault Found:
01855 - Temperature Sensor for Heated Seat; Left Front (G344)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 55
                    Reset counter: 39
                    Mileage: 214211 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.12.03
                    Time: 10:46:00


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist
Cannot be reached

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Address 15: Airbags
Cannot be reached

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 4H0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 953 568 B    HW: 7P6 953 507 A
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H08 0007 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 90815KBN00007
   Coding: 000C15
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 323D1C84C428D1ABB56-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P6 959 542     HW: 7P6 959 542
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H03 0027
   Serial number: 0059348             

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 7P6-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 7P6 920 980 N    HW: 7P6 920 980 N
   Component: Kombi         H12 0239 
   Revision: 10240061    Serial number: 658060211593013
   Coding: 8B7733022B00CF05020004
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSRBVW526 001013
   ROD: EV_KombiUDSRBVW526.rod
   VCID: 47CB5D505F2A4403F28-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 7P6 907 530 C    HW: 7P6 907 530 A
   Component: GW-CAN-L-MOST H08 5202 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000000102335
   Coding: 0001037500
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewVW526UDS 001006
   ROD: EV_GatewUDS_VW52.rod
   VCID: 38292EAC22D43BFB8B2-806C

   Battery Monitoring Control Module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P0 915 181 A    HW: 7P0 915 181
   Component: Batt_Sensor  H07 0140
   Serial number: 00000000005650659521

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 760 D    HW: 4H0 959 760 D
   Component: MEM-FS        H08 0153 
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001002321445
   Coding: 00581B0000004001000001010101202020202121202020
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 34311A9C3E3CDF9BA7A-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver
Cannot be reached

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 4H0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 AK    HW: 4H0 907 064 AK
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H24 0217 
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0144290043   
   Coding: 0186123A28B9509580A00620210000000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 72BDDC8404A891AB756-8026

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7P0 959 591     HW: 7P0 959 591
   Component: J245 PS30.050  H07 0006
   Serial number:     WOO11346672     
   Coding: 191100

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 7P0 959 591 A    HW: 4H0 959 591
   Component: J394 PS30.050  H07 0006
   Serial number:     WOO1133311U     
   Coding: 191100

1 Fault Found:
01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 39
                    Reset counter: 2
                    Mileage: 208013 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.02.17
                    Time: 09:14:34


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Address 47: Sound System
Cannot be reached

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.
Cannot be reached

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Address 53: Parking Brake
Cannot be reached

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Address 55: Headlight Range
Cannot be reached

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 5F: Information Electr.
Cannot be reached

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left
Cannot be reached

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 3Y0-907-273.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 907 273 F    HW: 7P6 907 273 F
   Component: RDKBERU25     H09 0008 
   Serial number: 10000000023299
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU25 003006
   ROD: EV_RDKBERU25_VW52.rod
   VCID: 3FDB45B007FA0CC34A8-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 7P0 907 383 B    HW: 7P0 907 383 B
   Component: Anhaenger     H07 0100 
   Revision: 5A001001    Serial number: 00000143312417
   Coding: 020D000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 372B2D902F4A3483828-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.
Cannot be reached

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (----)       Labels:| 7N0-959-107.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 959 107     HW: 7P6 959 107
   Component: HDSG-Modul    H10 0611 
   Revision: 22010001    Serial number: 047100204
   Coding: 0533314003
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeckkTouar 202135
   ROD: EV_HeckkTouar.rod
   VCID: 7CA1F2BC566CD7DB2FA-8028

1 Fault Found:
0028 - Motor 1 for rear lid
          B11D9 13 [008] - Open Circuit
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 114
                    Reset counter: 25
                    Mileage: 208212 km
                    Date: 2020.02.29
                    Time: 20:49:39

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.34 V


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Address 72: Door, Rear Right
Cannot be reached

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:31, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/12.3V. VIgn 0.0V)------
 
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Clear faults in 05-Acc/Start Auth.

Hopefully then the rest of the car will power up.

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No luck, Cleared the codes in 05 and they come right back. So I cleared all the codes and the same thing.....no ignition - no start - steering fault displayed on the dash.
So I guess it's safe to assume the steering lock module (J764) is bad?
 
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So I guess it's safe to assume the steering lock module (J764) is bad?
I'm not sure that's a safe assumption, but it doesn't strike me as unlikely either.

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I know I wouldn't want that pin sliding into the lock position while driving let alone not moving on a cold/hot day, would you?

My recommendation is to report it to NHTSA, as a safety issue and two if it were mine I'd remove the lock pin so lock module doesn't do anymore work.

As you can see the system did not help you or prevent theft, it is however a creative way of using the inverse spec's of NHTSA and EPA to enrich someone now isn't it?

Sound's like a worn micro switch, open photo and investigate no?
 
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I agree with the guys here. Unless you have a voltage supply problem to it (which is unlikely) the ESCL / 4H0 905 852 B is likely faulty. Even if you can get it unjammed/functioning well enough that the vehicle will start I wouldn't trust it (long term) bolted to my steering column since it could malfunction while driving as Jack mentioned.

Replacement would be the best option but the new unit will need to be matched to the Immo online at the dealer if you don't have a mobile tech or locksmith with ODIS setup that can come to you. For that reason taking it apart and investigating might be worthwhile in the event you can save yourself a tow to dealer.
 
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