Retrofitting a Higher Trim Instrument Cluster

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Hello,

I recently attempted to have a dealer install a GLI cluster on my car [MK6 Jetta S Facelift]. Most of the cluster works, it shows what doors (trunk and hood as well) are open, what the current fuel level is, and what the coolant temp is. Some things that don't work on the cluster are: Turn signals don't show up on it (works outside), the cluster doesn't know if the lights are on so it blacks out the cluster at night, and the high beam indicator doesn't work either. It also comes up with an ESC fault message on startup.
Was this just not installed correctly, or was my car never able to run this cluster in the first place? (I'm assuming it may be the latter but I just want to confirm.)
Thanks in advance.

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Tuesday,19,January,2021,18:26:17:06520
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.12.0.1 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4529.4
Data version: 20201125 DS322.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VW167AJ2HM295417   License Plate:
Mileage: 52620km-32696mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 5F

VIN: 3VW167AJ2HM295417   Mileage: 52620km-32696miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CZTA)       Labels:. 04E-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04E 906 023 AK    HW: 04E 907 309 AP
   Component: R4 1.4l TFS   H22 3670
   Revision: X5H22---
   Coding: 01110012232400000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906023AK 005003
   ROD: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906023AK_005.rod
   VCID: 698FB67E29F875C3C4C-803C

   Center armrest control head 1:

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0100

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 CC    HW: 1K0 907 379 CC
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0175
   Revision: 00H46001
   Coding: A14B400C492B00FF850F02E59220004024100012
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   VCID: 75B7EA0E75C0A123504-8020

2 Faults Found:
03391 - Coding Not Possible
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 25
                    Mileage: 52611 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 2
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 8254
                    Count: 49664
                    Count: 62720
                    Count: 254
                    Count: 0

00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 25
                    Mileage: 52611 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 2
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 8211
                    Count: 49664
                    Count: 62720
                    Count: 254
                    Count: 0


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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 5C0-820-047.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 820 047 CT    HW: 5C0 820 047 CT
   Component: J301  Klimaanlage   0211
   Revision: 2001401S    Serial number: 00000003672202
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00184
   VCID: 74B1D70A72BAB82B67A-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 189 A    HW: 7E0 937 189
   Component: BCM PQ25 MMI3 H81 0744
   Revision: BA081001    Serial number: 91007328166032
   Coding: 7B994B3808AB0F00003926803CDA94D54BC6722E600151F0B00010032844
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   VCID: 323D1112C42EF61BB56-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 DF    HW: 6R0 959 801 DF  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  022 1467
   Serial number: 14202743161101224115
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 DJ    HW: 6R0 959 802 DJ  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  022 1467
   Serial number: 14202742161101094131
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 G    HW: 6C0 959 442 G
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H06 0023
   Serial number: 2941612142301271BE2B
   Coding: 280000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 T    HW: 6R0 959 811 T
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  022 1467
   Serial number: 14102745161104142033
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 T    HW: 6R0 959 812 T
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  022 1467
   Serial number: 14102744161031174326
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 561-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 655     HW: 561 959 655
   Component: AirbagVW11    008 0210
   Serial number: 003RXM09K2ZM
   Coding: 8CCCF000000000005000001AC20800000065
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00184
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW11SMEVW411 001002
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW11SMEVW411.rod
   VCID: 6393A456CBD42F930E0-8036

   Seat occupied recognition:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339 B    HW: 4M0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H13 0022
   Serial number: IBH0000000000062Y608
   Coding: 303141

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 009 16
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887
   Serial number: 35700000000D96107E1N

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 009 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887
   Serial number: 358000000009E12D5E1W

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 022 010 16
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  000 0148
   Serial number: 35100019B23204C285C.

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 022 010 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  000 0148
   Serial number: 35200019B23204C4759-

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 021 910 16
   Component: FrontSensor_D  000 0189
   Serial number: 35500019922AFFC6462K

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 021 910 16
   Component: FrontSensor_P  000 0189
   Serial number: 35600019B22AFFC4D6D+

1 Fault Found:
12674816 - Immobilizer Control Module
          U0167 00 [009] - No Communications
          [Lost Comminication with Immobilizer]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 25
                    Mileage: 52580 km
                    Date: 2021.01.15
                    Time: 00:51:39


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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5C6 920 986 CX    HW: 5C6 920 986 CX
   Component: KOMBI         H02 1109
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 020A090000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05733
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
   VCID: 0B43ACF603C4C7D3160-805E

1 Fault Found:
12666368 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [Steuergerät für Diagnose Interface: keine Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 189
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H81 0744
   Revision: BA081001
   Coding: 102201
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   VCID: 6889B37A32724CCBDB2-803C

1 Fault Found:
00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 25
                    Mileage: 52580 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2021.01.15
                    Time: 00:51:40


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H02 1109
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW23.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC9722CFE7EDBCD6-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 304    3501
   Revision: 00H22000
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 392F263E1558054374C-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-ENT2.clb
   Part No SW: 561 035 150 A    HW: 561 035 150 A
   Component: MU-E--US      055 7085
   Serial number: 03101600010056
   Coding: 02630100AA00000041220001001000009F0000D40000010000
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001032
   ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW32.rod
   VCID: 0B43ACF603C4C7D3160-805E

2 Faults Found:
15360256 - Component Protection
          U1101 00 [009] - Active
          [Anti-theft protection - component protection active (0xEA6100)]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 25
                    Mileage: 52603 km
                    Date: 2021.01.15
                    Time: 14:19:57

                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.1 V

6714 - Databus
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [VIN: no communication]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 25
                    Mileage: 52580 km
                    Date: 2021.01.15
                    Time: 00:51:36

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.3 V
                    Network diagnosis-Status: Not available


End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:05, VBatt start/end: 12.2V/12.2V)-----------
 
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Hi and welcome.
Thank you for posting an Auto-Scan.

I don't suppose you have a scan of this car from when the old cluster was still in it?
If not, can you tell us the old cluster's part number?

If you want my guess (and that's all it is), this car's CAN Gateway isn't up to snuff for that cluster.

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Hi and welcome.
Thank you for posting an Auto-Scan.

I don't suppose you have a scan of this car from when the old cluster was still in it?
If not, can you tell us the old cluster's part number?

If you want my guess (and that's all it is), this car's CAN Gateway isn't up to snuff for that cluster.

-Uwe-

I unfortunately don't have a scan with the old cluster installed.
This should be the part number of the old cluster: 5C6920956A
 
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Your Car is Electronically a PQ25 platform.
The Cluster 5C6 920 986 C (without the X) i think X only meeans that it is a spare part, is made for PQ35 platform cars.
That is the main issue.
Those Clusters are HW side almost identical but SW is a bit different beetween PQ25 and PQ35 cars.
 
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