Golf mk6 GTI steering buttons problem (MFS buttons, right side, left/right)

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HI,
I had a strange problem last week. Golf mk6 gti with steering buttons problems. Car was just imported from Germany, so the owner wanted to change language in Radio and Dash.
I told him he can do that himself, but he drove to us, because he couldnt change the dash by himself.
The problem on the dash is getting to settings menu. Currently the dash shows telephone menu, and you can move up and down, but cannot switch trough the menus (MFS, Settings,radio, telephone). The car has multifunction steering wheel + up and down buttons on wiper stalk (which is strange to me)- usually the cars without MFS have buttons on wiper stalk. Left side steering buttons work (radio commands), right side up down and back work, left, right button not)..
He said that before he picked up the car, the menu in dash was showing current speed, but when he got it, it was in telephone menu.
I tried to check the buttons functions in 16, but I didnt see anyting happen when pressing the buttons (in additional measurements)...
Below is the autoscan if someone finds something.
Any idea where the problem would be?

Code:
VIN: WVWZZZ1KZCW348128   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 1K-VW36 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 52 55 56 62
          72 77

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZCW348128   Mileage: 143140km-88943miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
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Address 01: Engine (CCZ)       Labels:. 06J-907-115-CCZ.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 115 N    HW: 1K0 907 115 AA
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0010  
   Revision: AAH18---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0403000C1C070160
   Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
   VCID: 3565D2E45C39272CE1-8060

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 057 R    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     512 3114  
   Revision: 05551213    Serial number: 00001204280256
   Coding: 0000024
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 285B0B909B8B4AC46A-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BJ    HW: 1K0 907 379 BJ
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0121  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 143B600D09268002280C06E690210141350800
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 7BF104DCFA9D315C57-802E

1 Fault Found:
02214 - Tire Pressure Warning 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 168
                    Mileage: 143143 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.06.05
                    Time: 17:26:57

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 3
                    Count: 14
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 397
                    Count: 49664
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 1272
                    Count: 0


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 ES    HW: 5K0 907 044 ES
   Component: Climatronic   H18 1112  
   Revision: 00001004    
   Coding: 0000004002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 000B73309B7B528402-8054

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 086 M    HW: 1K0 937 086 M
   Component: BCM PQ35  M   110 0651  
   Revision: 00110 AC    
   Coding: 48180A3A8825F3C0400800C0740089E44B550488736D8D20E48400240040
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   VCID: 3A7FC1D8B527C8540C-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 04051  26  0512 
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 070512 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0230AD

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 3C8-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 919 475 E    HW: 5K0 919 475 E
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H01 0012  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 12561206501690
   Coding: 108103
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 387BDBD08B2BDA44FA-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 B    HW: 5C0 959 655 B
   Component: AirbagVW10    013 0613  
   Serial number: 003G5RAK0G6H  
   Coding: 00003957
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01014
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 316DE6F460510B0CBD-8064

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H01 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME4E32516DZZZ+

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H01 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME3969226DZZZ1

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side): 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 3512QSME7C211327ZZZQ

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor: 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 3522QSME4441144DZZZR

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 AJ    HW: 5K0 953 549 B
   Component: Lenks.Modul   008 0080  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:  90440LE20008G
   Coding: 589A140000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_A05.rod
   VCID: 78FB1BD0C3AB1A443A-802C

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542     HW: 5K0 959 542   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H08 0010 
   Serial number: 0117101             
   Coding: 830000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5K6 920 872     HW: 5K6 920 872 
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0607  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 170F01
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
   VCID: 72EF29F8A5D7701404-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 M    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H42 1623  
   Revision:   H42       Serial number: 030512F1003483
   Coding: 350002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3A7FC1D8B527C8540C-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H03 0607  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW23.rod
   VCID: 6ADF31988D07B8D4BC-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 E    HW: 5N0 035 342 E
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0240  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7662061452    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 295D0E94408173CC75-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 H    HW: 1T0 035 680 H
   Component: RNS-MID       H64 4020  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M5127084
   Coding: 04000402040000900005
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3361ECFC924D391CCF-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 701 H    HW: 5K0 959 701 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2105  
   Coding: 0000180
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3779D8EC4635D53CF3-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 74     3305  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3779D8EC4635D53CF3-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 702 C    HW: 5K0 959 702 C
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2119  
   Coding: 0000436
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3361ECFC524D391CCF-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C    HW: 5M0 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0148  
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 1442908
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3463EFE057433E24D6-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0005  
   Coding: 00000022

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    0005  
   Coding: 00000022

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 H    HW: 1T0 035 680 H
   Component: RNS-MID       H64 4020  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M5127084
   Coding: 04000402040000900005
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3361ECFC924D391CCF-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 D    HW: 5K0 959 703 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 3565D2E45C39272CE1-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 D    HW: 5K0 959 704 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 3667D5E8413F2C34E8-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 035 730 F    HW: 5K0 035 730 F
   Component: TELEFON       H09 2902  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007662341112
   Coding: 0A01000000000001
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA A01719
   ROD: UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 285B0B90538B4AC46A-807C

2 Faults Found:
9457939 - Telephone baseplate 
          B1051 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 163
                    Mileage: 142901 km
                    Date: 2020.11.02
                    Time: 09:41:04

9458453 - Cellular Antenna 
          B1053 15 [009] - Open or Short to Plus
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 163
                    Mileage: 142901 km
                    Date: 2020.11.02
                    Time: 09:41:04
 
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May be you arent pushing button hard enough or stuck?
 
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No, I think it should work- we tried pressing it harder of course :). Do you think the problem could be in the wiper stalk which has buttons for board computer? Cars without MFSW have buttons on wiper stalk, and cars with MFSW dont- as far as I know.
So maybe the problem lies inside- board logic does not know which signal to process? or something like that.
The owner called me the other day that buttons worked for a couple of minutes, but then stopped again... strange
 
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if you keep configuration like that ...it will never work of course

there is a simple and one rules
OR MFSW , or Wiper stalk with TRIP buttons
you can not have both .. or explain me , why you want to keep both ? ...driver change ...and passenger also change in this same time ?
ha ha ha
 
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MFSW was probably retrofitted but they couldn't be bothered with changing the TRIP stalk to a stalk without buttons.
I'd suggest to change the coding of 16 to remove TRIP computer and even to replace the stalks completely.

In a Polo 6R, sometimes it simply won't work because the MFA buttons on the MFSW were never factory option unless you had a MFA+ GTI cluster.
Sometimes you can hold some combination of buttons on the MFSW while turning the ignition key. Not sure this helps. The key is to NEVER touch the TRIP buttons once MFSW is installed.

For now, the customer might be able to move through the menu by long pressing either up or down on the stalk and scroll through that way.
 
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if they keep TRIP stalk and add MFSW , cluster stay when he stay ....
because TRIP stalk can operate cluster ready for MFSW and no MFSW
but cluster ready for MFSW can ONLY be operate by MFSW , so TRIP stalk is top1
now you need to fix that , what every is there, who ever did that
 
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Thanks to all for input :). I agree with that and will tell the owner where to start. Of course I will post the results here.
 
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