2014 Vw Amarok issues

[Hirobosuddo]

Good Evening all,
I was hoping one of you smart people could assist me with this issue I’m having with this Amaro? The issues or complain is lights on in the car, to be fai it’s like Christmas in the cab lol. the 4x4 lights are flashing in the instrument cluster along with most of the other lights, also the 4x4 lights on the centre console are illuminated and flashing.
what I have done is checked can resistance and getting a healthy 66 ohms, however I am getting no commas on the can network, it looks like the can low is being pulled to ground on the scope.
so with this in mind I have started to look for module, I have found the body control module above the fuse box in the drivers footwell, disconnected and no effect on can network also not sure what they are but disconnected a module in the centre of the car under the heater also behind the kick panel on the passenger side but unable to find anymor.

are there any more if so does anyone know where please

any help greatly received thanks

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Thu,Jan,14,2021,15:55:31
VCDS Mobile 0.4529.0.4

Thu,Jan,14,2021,15:55:31
VCDS Mobile: 0.4529
Data Version: 30000060

VIN: WV1ZZZ2HZFH001808

Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 17 19 22 25 37 56

VIN: WV1ZZZ2HZFH001808

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 16010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 16010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 16010
22-AWD -- Status: Cannot be reached 1110
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 16010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 16000



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Address 01: Engine  (CNEA J)    Labels: 03L-906-022-CFC.clb
    Part No SW: 03L 906 012 AD    HW: 03L 907 309 AC
    Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H24 7088
    Revision: 74H24---
    Coding: 01594012232600080000
    Shop #: WSC 02310 790 50316
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906012AD 001006
    ROD: N/A
    VCID: 668F159B117F4599E4EED4-8033

    No ASAM data for: "EV_ECM20BTD01103L906012AD"
2 Faults Found:
004483 - ROD - Unknown faultcode
    Freeze Frame:
        Fault Status: 00000001
        Fault Priority: 6
        Fault Frequency: 1
        Mileage: 61193 km
        Date: 2009.14.13
        Time: 00:26:43

004711 - ROD - Unknown faultcode
    Freeze Frame:
        Fault Status: 00000001
        Fault Priority: 6
        Fault Frequency: 1
        Mileage: 61193 km
        Date: 2009.14.13
        Time: 00:26:44


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Address 03: ABS Brakes  (-----)    Labels: 2H0-907-37x-ESP.clb
    Part No SW: 2H0 907 379 Q    HW: 2H0 907 379 D
    Component: ESP MK25A XT  H44 0112
    Revision: 00H44001
    Coding: 462C0906F1DF40
    Shop #: WSC 02310 790 49160
    VCID: 3E3F9DFB296F25594C7E1C-806B

3 Faults Found:
02053 - Control Module for Transfer Case (J646)
    008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
        Fault Status: 00101000
        Fault Priority: 2
        Fault Frequency: 1
        Reset Counter: 25
        Mileage: 61193 km
        Time Indication: 0
        Date: 2009.14.13
        Time: 00:01:28
        Count: 32768
        Count: 4353
        Count: 8269
        Count: 1022

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
        Fault Status: 00100100
        Fault Priority: 2
        Fault Frequency: 1
        Reset Counter: 122
        Mileage: 61106 km
        Time Indication: 0
        Date: 2008.14.17
        Time: 13:28:29
        Count: 16448
        Count: 4097
        Count: 8214
        Count: 768

02053 - Control Module for Transfer Case (J646)
    004 - No Signal/Communication
    Freeze Frame:
        Fault Status: 01100100
        Fault Priority: 2
        Fault Frequency: 1
        Reset Counter: 122
        Mileage: 61106 km
        Time Indication: 0
        Date: 2008.14.17
        Time: 13:28:38
        Count: 16896
        Count: 4353
        Count: 8268
        Count: 768


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Address 08: Auto HVAC  (J255)    Labels: 7E5-907-040.clb
    Part No SW: 2H0 907 040 E    HW: 2H0 907 040 E
    Component: ClimatronicT5 H19 0407
    Revision: 00001004
    Coding: 0000000002
    Shop #: WSC 02310 790 50316
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimatronicT5 A01003
    ROD: N/A
    VCID: 23094C8FA2CD70B1437035-8076

    No ASAM data for: "EV_ClimatronicT5"
3 Faults Found:
9481748 - ROD - Unknown faultcode
    Freeze Frame:
        Fault Status: 00000001
        Fault Priority: 2
        Fault Frequency: 51
        Reset Counter: 25
        Mileage: 61106 km
        Date: 2008.14.17
        Time: 13:28:43

9480469 - ROD - Unknown faultcode
    Freeze Frame:
        Fault Status: 00000001
        Fault Priority: 2
        Fault Frequency: 3
        Reset Counter: 86
        Mileage: 58972 km
        Date: 2007.14.07
        Time: 20:09:36

9479189 - ROD - Unknown faultcode
    Freeze Frame:
        Fault Status: 00000001
        Fault Priority: 3
        Fault Frequency: 18
        Reset Counter: 25
        Mileage: 61107 km
        Date: 2008.14.17
        Time: 13:30:26


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.  (J519)    Labels: 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
    Part No SW: 6R7 937 087 R    HW: 6R7 937 087 R
    Component: PQ25 BCM      H30 0570
    Revision: -1------
    Coding: 250002380C611400923808102C4B84D50080410E60020000300000000003
    Shop #: WSC 02310 790 00104
    VCID: 53E9DC4FB2EDD831935025-8006

    Subsystem 1 -     Part No SW: 6R0-959-802-M    Labels: 6R0-959-802.clb
    Component: J386__TSG_FT 002 3322
    Coding: 050000

    Subsystem 2 -     Part No SW: 6R0-959-801-P    Labels: 6R0-959-801.clb
    Component: J387__TSG_BT 002 3322
    Coding: 050000

    Subsystem 3 -     Part No SW: 1K8-951-171-A
    Component: DWA-Sensor      001001 0

    Subsystem 4 -     Part No SW: 1K0-951-605-C
    Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H05H05 1

    Subsystem 5 -     Part No SW: 1K8-951-171-A
    Component: DWA-Sensor      001001 0

    Subsystem 6 -     Part No SW: 6R0-959-811-D
    Component: J388__TSG_HL 002 3322
    Coding: 000000

    Subsystem 7 -     Part No SW: 6R0-959-812-D    Labels: 6R-09-07.lbl
    Component: J389__TSG_HR 002 3322
    Coding: 000000

3 Faults Found:
01326 - Control Module for Multi-Function Steering Wheel (J453)
    004 - No Signal/Communication
    Freeze Frame:
        Fault Status: 01100100
        Fault Priority: 2
        Fault Frequency: 15
        Reset Counter: 25
        Mileage: 61186 km
        Time Indication: 0
        Date: 2008.14.26
        Time: 09:25:06

03156 - Sensor for Anti-Theft System (G578)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
        Fault Status: 00100100
        Fault Priority: 2
        Fault Frequency: 52
        Reset Counter: 65
        Mileage: 61186 km
        Time Indication: 0
        Date: 2008.14.26
        Time: 09:25:07

01758 - Bulbs for Brake Lamps
    007 - Short to Ground
    Freeze Frame:
        Fault Status: 01100111
        Fault Priority: 2
        Fault Frequency: 3
        Reset Counter: 25
        Mileage: 61193 km
        Time Indication: 0
        Date: 2009.14.13
        Time: 00:28:15


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Address 15: Airbags  (J234)    Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
    Part No SW: 2H0 959 655 B    HW: 2H0 959 655 B
    Component: VW10Airbag00M H07 0013
    Revision: --------
    Coding: 00000000000000000000000000000000304D
    Shop #: WSC 02739 790 50316
    ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
    ROD: N/A
    VCID: 3329BCCF122DE031B31085-8066

    No ASAM data for: "EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750"
    Subsystem 1 -     Serial Number: 3495RRB40572SIIAJODJ

    Subsystem 2 -     Serial Number: 3505RRB40572SIIA4PD/

    Subsystem 3 -     Serial Number: 3555YRB400652JMQ999T

No fault codes found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway  (J533)    Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
    Part No SW: 6N0 909 901    HW: 6R7 937 087 R
    Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H30 0570
    Revision: -1------
    Coding: 742300
    Shop #: WSC 02310 790 00104
    VCID: F0A3F3C3A3BB03290E72E2-80A5

2 Faults Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
        Fault Status: 00100100
        Fault Priority: 2
        Fault Frequency: 66
        Reset Counter: 65
        Mileage: 61106 km
        Time Indication: 0
        Date: 2008.14.17
        Time: 13:28:30

01324 - Control Module for All Wheel Drive (J492)
    004 - No Signal/Communication
    Freeze Frame:
        Fault Status: 01100100
        Fault Priority: 2
        Fault Frequency: 67
        Reset Counter: 25
        Time Indication: 0

 

[obedlink]

for what you describe and taking into account the result of your scan. It may be a problem with your CAN BUS module, or the modules that appear with a problem, because most of them say that there is no signal / communication with the modules, that can only be that it is completely damaged or disconnected or a fault in the wiring. Regarding the CAN BUS it could be that it lost the confiuration and the modules with problems, they are not in the CAN BUS list.

Check that the wiring to the modules is good and that they are on the can bus list, also check the fuses or relays. It is common that the failure of a module affects other modules.

 

[Shade]

Hello everyone,

The fact that you are getting 66 ohm, may be evidence that modules that house the terminating resistors are in good order.

I'm curious, where did you connect the scope to the network? because if you have connected after the gateway, then you may have incorrect readings. A scope must be connected before the gateway to get accurate ohm numbers and properly observe the CAN bus.

Is there a chance that you can post a picture of the network, so that we may conclude with you that it is being pulled down?

Look at your autoscan and disconnect the modules listed there one at a time, while looking at your scope and see if your CAN is restored.

I hope this helps.

 

[Hirobosuddo]

Thanks for getting back to me guys much appreciated, I connected the scope via my OBD break out box. I have been disconnecting modules and as the can network did not return I plugged them back in. Should I have left them disconnected??
I will take some pictures of the scope tomorrow and post is there anything else you would like to see??
Also would anyone know the location of the can bus modules as I am struggling to find the wee buggers
Thanks again fir all the help

 

[Shade]

Hi,

You must disconnect and then plug them back in if they are not the cause.

I notice that your vehicle has a J533, CAN gateway, on my diagrams I do not have it. Please you need to connect your scope before the J533 and also do your ohm readings there, if you connect a breakout box via the data link connector, you will get incorrect CAN and ohm readings. The gateway acts like a train station, where all the CANs (high speed, medium speed, low speed, LIN and a diagnostic machine) all meet and exchange information. So when you do your readings via the data link connector, you will be reading the resistance of several CANs and reading signals from several CANs.

In relation to the location of the modules

LOCATION OF MODULES

Control modules on the right A-pillar - Parking aid control unit -J446, Remote control receiver for auxiliary coolant heater -R149



Driver door control unit -J386- , front passenger door control unit -J387- , rear left door control unit -J388- and rear right door control unit -J389



Climatronic control unit -J255- , In centre of dash panel



Differential lock control unit -J187- , under the centre console, near handbrake lever



Fuel pump control unit -J538- , on the tank



Multifunction steering wheel control unit -J453



Control unit in dash panel insert -J285



Onboard supply control unit -J519- , on left under dash panel



Voltage stabiliser -J532- , in front left wing, near A-pillar



Reversing camera system control unit -J772- , near steering column



Trailer detector control unit -J345- , next to steering column on left



Engine control unit -J623- , front left in engine compartment



Automatic glow period control unit -J179- , front left in engine compartment



ABS control unit -J104- , front left in engine compartment



Auxiliary heater control unit -J364- , front left in engine compartment



Battery monitoring control unit -J367- , on negative battery pole



Transfer box control unit -J646- , on left under dash panel



Radiator fan control unit -J293- , on radiator fan



Airbag control unit -J234- , in centre under dash panel



Seat heating control unit -J882- , in centre under dash panel



Control unit for vehicle location system -J895- , behind A/C operating unit

 

[Hirobosuddo]

Wow shade thanks for all the information. Could you tell me where J533 connector is and what do you use for getting this information as it seems it has some good information in it
Thanks again

 

[Shade]

Hi,

As mentioned my programme does not show the J533, while your vehicle is equipped with one. Please use google to find the location of the J533. As there will be several wires going into the J533, you will need a wiring diagram to understand everything.
I would prefer that you connect directly, e.g at J646 CAN wires and observe the communication from there. But before you do that you will need to properly check the powers and grounds of the modules which are not communicating. You really need a wiring diagram to trouble shoot this.