My A6 4F went dead

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Hafinco

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Fisrt my MMi stop working, after checking and cleaning with electro clean all connections behind glove compartment
Now noting is working did VCDS scan nothing is found not even Vin is reading
It looks like the modules can not communicate with the Bus. Did the Optical test and all OK
First it start and goes dead but now nothing. Checked all fuses .
I`m out of ideas for solutions
 
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If you did the Optical Bus test, then it sounds like the Gateway is alive and talking. In that case, please post an Auto-Scan so we can see what else talks and what doens't.

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The auto scan give as result non of the module can not reach.
The steering was working but now stop, when you place the key in it was activating but now even the hazard stop working so it is complete dead
Lights indicators Park Airbag Eps is on and I disconnect the bat
no locking working even by on driver control system
 
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If you did the Optical Bus test, then it sounds like the Gateway is alive and talking. In that case, please post an Auto-Scan so we can see what else talks and what doens't.

-Uwe-

PS: Moving to New Users

Wednesday,06,January,2021,13:36:30:56746
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.12.0.1 (x64)
Data version: 20201125 DS322.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: License Plate: Key ON position


Gateway Installation List: 4F0 907 468 M

01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
04-Steering Angle -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
07-Control Head -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
15-Airbags -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
17-Instruments -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100 (17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000 with key in)
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
76-Park Assist -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100

Wednesday,06,January,2021,13:45:38:56746
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.12.0.1 (x64)
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VIN: License Plate: OPTICAL TEST


Control Module Part Number: 4F0 907 468 M
Component and/or Version: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H06 0035

Optical Bus Diagnostic : Standard

Controller Electrical Optical
19-CAN Gateway OK OK
07-Control Head(High/D3) OK OK
0E-Media Player 1 OK OK
56-Radio OK OK

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Engine start and goes down
Battery full
When place key in hear collum activation
DVD and CD Changer works
AC panel lights up
No Hazard blinking
Press Check in Panel
counters and date lights up

No VIN reading
 
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Wow. Nothing except the Gateway talks. I don't recall seeing one quite like that before.

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Wow. Nothing except the Gateway talks. I don't recall seeing one quite like that before.

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Do you think by start replacing the onboard is a good step or do someone have an other idea
 
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Do you think by start replacing the onboard is a good step or do someone have an other idea
I have not studied the wiring diagrams for this car, so I have no real opinion here.

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Finally got it running
Opened Fuses in E-Box plenum chamber, left and checked all fuses found ok then unplugged 5 connectors and plugged back.
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Reconnected the Battery and wala Car is alive.

Still have no MMI but car is running Did scan after riding and self adjusting ABS EPS and Park brake
Clear All DTCs
New scan and found this

Code:
Thursday,14,January,2021,12:22:49:56746
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.12.0.1 (x64)
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VIN: WAUZZZ4FXBN043084   License Plate:
Mileage: 96660km-60061mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 4F-AU56 (4F0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 42 46 4F 52 53 55 56 5F
          62 6C 72 76

VIN: WAUZZZ4FXBN043084   Mileage: 96660km-60061miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (BYK)       Labels:. 06F-907-115-AXX.clb
   Part No SW: 4F2 910 115 L    HW: 4F2 907 115
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0020 
   Revision: 56H19---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0105010A02070120
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 2953C6D0802488CC75-807C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0100

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 01J-927-156.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F5 910 157 A    HW: 01J 927 156 JG
   Component: V30 01J 2.0TFSI USA 0010 
   Revision: --H06---    Serial number: 00000000000772
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 2757C0E89630BEBC63-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4F0-910-517.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 AK    HW: 4F0 614 517 AT
   Component: ESP8 front      H03 0060 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0020915
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 6DDBF2C0744C54ECD9-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels:. 4F0-910-852.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 B    HW: 4F0 905 852 F
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV   H05 0130 
   Revision: 00H05000    Serial number: 10602901703209
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 10241 875 999999
   VCID: 254BCAE0EC3CACAC51-8070

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 132 A
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H03 0020

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 220
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG   H01 0054

No fault code found.

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Address 07: Control Head
Cannot be reached

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4F0-910-043.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 B    HW: 4F1 820 043 AL
   Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH30 0080 
   Revision: 00000076    Serial number: 00000030561257
   Coding: 0524356
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 1D3BE200C46C646C09-8048

1 Fault Found:
00797 - Sunlight Photo Sensor (G107)
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 92
                    Mileage: 96666 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.05.21
                    Time: 01:48:11


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 N    HW: 4F0 907 279
   Component: ILM Fahrer      H22 0320 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 4F0907279     
   Coding: 0013121
   Shop #: WSC 02156 785 00200
   VCID: 346D27A457E6C524D6-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F1 910 113 D  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AudiC6  H11 0040 
   Coding: 00056595
   Shop #: WSC 02156 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8K0 910 557   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH04 0003 
   Coding: 00146221
   Shop #: WSC 02156 

No fault code found.

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Address 0E: Media Player 1
Cannot be reached

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 4F0-910-655-10.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 R    HW: 4F0 959 655 H
   Component: Airbag AU1042 H07 0200 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003FA001FHV6
   Coding: 30314237303530303034554A304C34463053
   Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001
   ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4.rod
   VCID: 36691DAC899AD734E8-8062

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 3574SRB40000CCBC918P

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Serial number: 3584SRB40000CF2482FJ

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Serial number: 3516HRB402JD1B3EQRHZ

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
   Serial number: 3526HRB402JD1B3ESBRW

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 3554NRB400005E1DC93A

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Serial number: 3564NRB400005E43307X

1 Fault Found:
9438234 - Igniter for Front passenger's Head Curtain Airbag
          B1004 1A [137] - Resistance Too Low
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 96666 km
                    Date: 2010.05.21
                    Time: 01:48:12


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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 A    HW: 4F0 953 549 D
   Component: J0527               0530 
   Revision: 00H05000    Serial number: 90026103080021
   Coding: 0002041
   Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
   VCID: 2757C0E89630BEBC63-8072

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: E0221           H02 0100

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 4F0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 920 901 M    HW: 4F0 920 901 M
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H08 0211 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: FJJ205NAA     
   Coding: 0B560A050200000C010100
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 2C5D3FC44FD69DE48E-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 4F0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 907 468 M    HW: 4F0 907 468 F
   Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H06 0035 
   Revision: LB100029    Serial number: 2900L10A2203E3
   Coding: 000303
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 39731690B084384C05-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 C    HW: 8K0 915 181 C
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0125
   Serial number: 00000000002790175293

5 Faults Found:
01771 - Control Module for Headlight Range (J431)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 92
                    Mileage: 96666 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.05.21
                    Time: 01:55:25

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits:    11111
                    Voltage: 13.90 V
                    Count: 7
                    Bin. Bits:    10000
                    Time: 25.40 s

00459 - Control Module for Display and Input; Front (J523)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 92
                    Mileage: 96666 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.05.21
                    Time: 01:56:24

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits:    11000
                    Voltage: 12.70 V
                    Count: 12
                    Bin. Bits:    10000

02076 - Media Player Position 1 (R118)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 92
                    Mileage: 96666 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.05.21
                    Time: 01:56:24

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits:    11000
                    Voltage: 12.70 V
                    Count: 12
                    Bin. Bits:    10000

01304 - Radio
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 92
                    Mileage: 96666 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.05.21
                    Time: 01:56:24

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits:    11000
                    Voltage: 12.70 V
                    Count: 12
                    Bin. Bits:    10000

03158 - Control Module for Information Electronics 1 (J794)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 92
                    Mileage: 96666 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.05.21
                    Time: 01:56:24

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits:    11000
                    Voltage: 12.70 V
                    Count: 12
                    Bin. Bits:    10000


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 4F0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 793 T    HW: 8K0 959 793 M
   Component: TSG FA        H12 0361 
   Revision:             Serial number: 0008000106819
   Coding: 011F07205040410001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 48956354FB6E51C48A-801C

1 Fault Found:
02115 - Locking Unit for Central Locking
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 132
                    Mileage: 96666 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.05.21
                    Time: 05:21:39


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 4F0-910-289.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 N    HW: 4F0 907 289 N
   Component: Komfortgeraet   H29 0250 
   Revision: 02500029    Serial number: 01378591910000
   Coding: 4614293
   Shop #: WSC 02156 785 00200
   VCID: 356B1AA05C9CDC2CE1-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H05 1501

1 Fault Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 92
                    Mileage: 113513 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.07.20
                    Time: 10:27:56


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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 280     HW: 4F0 907 280 C
   Component: ILM Beifahrer   H14 0100 
   Revision:             Serial number: 00000000797477
   Coding: 0001014
   Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
   VCID: 5EB9A50C89EA3F7450-800A

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 4F0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 792 T    HW: 8K0 959 792 M
   Component: TSG BF        H12 0361 
   Revision:             Serial number: 0008000105751
   Coding: 011F07205040410001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 47976068F6705EBC83-8012

1 Fault Found:
02115 - Locking Unit for Central Locking
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 92
                    Mileage: 96666 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.05.21
                    Time: 02:12:52


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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 D    HW: 4F0 907 801 B
   Component: EPB  CEFC0090   H05 0090 
   Revision: --H05---   
   Coding: 0001031
   Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
   VCID: 2143DEF0F814408C2D-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range
Cannot be reached

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 5F: Information Electr.
Cannot be reached

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 P    HW: 4F0 959 795 P
   Component: TSG HL        H11 0361 
   Revision:             Serial number: 0008000108234
   Coding: 010E05204040220001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 46896D6CF17A47B478-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 441 D    HW: 4L0 907 441 B
   Component: J772__Rearview      0030 
   Revision: --H04---    Serial number: 525PA8-J0X21RU
   Coding: 1000304
   Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
   VCID: 2143DEF0F814408C2D-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 P    HW: 4F0 959 795 P
   Component: TSG HR        H11 0361 
   Revision:             Serial number: 0008000108230
   Coding: 010E05204040220001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 46896D6CF17A47B478-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4Fx-910-283.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 283 B    HW: 4L0 919 283 B
   Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H03 0500 
   Revision: 00H03000    Serial number: 37231031601117
   Coding: 0021206
   Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
   VCID: 2953C6D0802488CC75-807C

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:54)--------------------------

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Control Module Part Number: 4F0 907 468 M
  Component and/or Version: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H06 0035

Optical Bus Diagnostic : Standard

Controller              Electrical              Optical             
19-CAN Gateway          OK                      OK                 
07-Control Head(High/D3)    OK                      OK                 
0E-Media Player 1       OK                      OK                 
56-Radio                OK                      OK                 

************************************************************


Had problem with
1 Alarm horn
2 Controlhead can not reach
3 Pass curtain airbag (need to replaced)
4 Sun light sensor

But now more modules can not be reach
All fuses checked there are OK
 
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Today did some power measurements on console Control Module for Display and Input; Front (J523) and found power on it
Also there are power on CD changer (loads cds), DVD (load dvds), MMI, Radio unit in luggage compartment
I am thinking that Control unit for front display and information control panel - J523 is the problem
How to reach this seen that I removed the glove compartment and found only MMI display, Gateway bus, Control Module for Headlight Range (J431) t, and a power supply control unit

Need some help here pls
 
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