Regeneration doesnt work

[khaledabdulaziz]

hello all
i hope you are doing well
i have a vw jetta 2014 with dpf, engine, and glow plug light on and with this error *16848 - Diesel Particulate Filter *
i tried doing force regeneration but it shows *finished correctly* but no regeneration
could it be the g450 sensor ?
here is the auto scan
side question : whats the difference between soot measured and soot calculated
thanks.

Saturday,19,December,2020,19:02:13:04619
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Data version: 20201124 DS322.0
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VIN: WVWZZZ16ZCM025052   License Plate:


Chassis Type: 16-VW32 (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: WVWZZZ16ZCM025052   Mileage: 102910km-63945miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 ML    HW: 03L 907 425 C
   Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H43 9052 
   Revision: --H43---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 10114014030400080000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00081
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023ML 003005
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023ML_003_VW32.rod
   VCID: 7CA1F2CB866A475B2FB-8028

1 Fault Found:
16848 - Diesel Particulate Filter
          P2458 00 [175] - Regeneration Duration
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 102866 km
                    Date: 2020.12.19
                    Time: 00:09:23

                    Engine RPM: 781.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 30.6 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 80 �C
                    Intake air temperature: 38 �C
                    Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.892 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Particle filter: soot mass measured-MASS_SOOT_PHY_PF: -1.91 g
                    Particle filter: soot mass calculated-MASS_SOOT_SIM_PF: 10.82 g
                    Particle filter kilometers since last regeneration_1-DIST_RGN_ENVD_H: 316 km
                    Counter for regeneration time of particulate filter-T_INT_RGN_ACT_INI_PF_ENVD_H: 12596.0189 s
                    Particle filter: difference pressure-DIP_PF: 1.00 hPa
                    DPF: offset for differential pressure-DIP_PF_AD[0]: -2.07 hPa
                    Service regeneration: Release conditions 3-FRF_STATE_RGN: 1

Readiness: 1110 1000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BJ    HW: 1K0 907 379 BJ
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0121 
   Revision: 00H31001   
   Coding: A13B20F8092400FF850B04E9901B0041210000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 7BA3F1D783E44063261-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 426 AN    HW: 7N0 907 426 AN
   Component: AC Manuell    H19 0304 
   Revision: 00001015   
   Coding: 0000004002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00118
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X A01010
   ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 0059863BEA8223BB733-8054

1 Fault Found:
9477141 - Position Sensor for Air Distribution Flap Motor
          B109C 15 [008] - Open or Short to Plus
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 8
                    Reset counter: 145
                    Mileage: 102196 km
                    Date: 2020.11.04
                    Time: 17:45:06


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 084 F    HW: 5K0 937 084 F
   Component: BCM PQ35 B    011 0048 
   Revision: BA011001   
   Coding: 00000A3A882DE3C040000080000000E403000088708085605CC000000040
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 353727EFE5405613905-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K8 951 171
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9005
   Coding: 000000

2 Faults Found:
00984 - Left Tail Light (M4)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 105
                    Mileage: 82412 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.04.23
                    Time: 19:46:32

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.05 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        ON

01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 145
                    Mileage: 89954 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.04.27
                    Time: 05:02:58

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.10 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 1Q0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 5C6 919 475     HW: 7E0 919 475 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H10 0005 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 84091116401713
   Coding: 108001
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00118
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18VW3610000 001003
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW3610000.rod
   VCID: 71BFD3FFD1283A338CD-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 C    HW: 5C0 959 655 C
   Component: AirbagVW10    013 0613 
   Serial number: 003G6M002XD9 
   Coding: 00003242
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01014
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 323D1CF314AE412BB57-8066

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H01 ----
   Serial number: 3572MSME2A0E2460ZZZV

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H01 ----
   Serial number: 3582MSME5A56306BZZZ/

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ----
   Serial number: 3516KSME22532B11ZZZG

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ----
   Serial number: 3526KSME7E1A1B11ZZZ-

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 AE    HW: 5K0 953 569
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140 
   Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20110604101456
   Coding: 4080040000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00187
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 70B9D6FBDA22333B833-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5C6 920 861 A    HW: 5C6 920 861 A
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0606 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 170E00
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00081
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 290FFB9F397802F304D-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 H    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway H42 1620 
   Revision:   H42       Serial number: 05081101270631
   Coding: 351002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 353727EFE5405613905-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H04 0606 
   Serial number:              
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW32.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC493FCFEC9EBCD7-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 701 A    HW: 3C0 959 793 C
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0515 
   Revision: 12110009    Serial number: 0003085488
   Coding: 0000B5
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 1C61D24B662AE75B8FB-8048

   Slave Driver:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 703 B    HW: 3C0 959 795 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  006 1508
   Serial number: 00000005950012     
   Coding: 000090

1 Fault Found:
66304 - Switch for Drivers Side Window Regulator
          B11F0 29 [008] - Signal Implausible
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 122
                    Mileage: 102371 km
                    Date: 2020.11.15
                    Time: 22:25:06


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 69     3201 
   Revision: 00H20000   
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 34311AEBE23A4F1BA7B-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 702 A    HW: 3C0 959 792 C
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0515 
   Revision: 14110009    Serial number: 0004711312
   Coding: 0001B4
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 1D67DF4F7D30EE53785-8048

   Slave Passenger:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 704 B    HW: 3C0 959 794 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  006 1508
   Serial number: 00000005943676     
   Coding: 000090

3 Faults Found:
66562 - Heated Exterior Mirror
          B11F8 14 [009] - Open or Short to Ground
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 29
                    Reset counter: 29
                    Mileage: 42471 km
                    Date: 2013.10.27
                    Time: 21:24:19

67074 - Motors for Central Locking
          B122B 01 [008] - Electrical Failure
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 6
                    Reset counter: 133

67330 - Switch for Central Locking
          B122D 29 [008] - Signal Implausible
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 119
                    Mileage: 102174 km
                    Date: 2020.11.02
                    Time: 18:23:14


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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 186 AN    HW: 1K0 035 186 AN
   Component: Radio RCD310  032 0079 
   Revision: 01000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z2L3065716
   Coding: 05000400040006
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 72BDDCF3D4AE012B757-8026

3 Faults Found:
00870 - Bass Speaker Front Left (R21)
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 42
                    Reset counter: 139
                    Mileage: 98802 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.09.08
                    Time: 17:47:52

00872 - Bass Speaker Rear Left (R15)
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 53
                    Mileage: 81603 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.03.13
                    Time: 13:58:02

00873 - Bass Speaker Rear Right (R17)
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 228
                    Reset counter: 98
                    Mileage: 88678 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.02.12
                    Time: 23:53:34


End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:09, VBatt start/end: 14.0V/13.8V)-----------

 

[khaledabdulaziz]

Service regeneration: Release conditions 3-FRF_STATE_RGN: 1

what this sentence means

 

[Uwe]

could it be the g450 sensor ?

What readings do you get from it with key on, engine off, and with the engine running at idle?

-Uwe-

 

[khaledabdulaziz]

The same, it doesn't give me any error in g450 sensor

 

[Uwe]

The same, it doesn't give me any error in g450 sensor

"The same" is not a a reading of values.

Should be something like:
IDE00427-ENG101722 -- Particle filter: difference pressure (hPa)

-Uwe-

 

[khaledabdulaziz]

Now I don't have the car in my hands, thought I should ask for future cos it seems like a regular problem where dpf doesn't regenerate
I thought the g450 would be the problem because dpf light is on while soot calculated and soot measured is less the 35g

 

[Jack@European_Parts]

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC) Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 023 ML HW: 03L 907 425 C
Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H43 9052 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< VWWWWHAT FOD IS DIS?
Revision: --H43--- Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 10114014030400080000
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00081
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023ML 003005
ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023ML_003_VW32.rod
VCID: 7CA1F2CB866A475B2FB-8028

1 Fault Found:
16848 - Diesel Particulate Filter
P2458 00 [175] - Regeneration Duration
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 102866 km
Date: 2020.12.19
Time: 00:09:23

Engine RPM: 781.50 /min
Normed load value: 30.6 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 80 �C
Intake air temperature: 38 �C
Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 13.892 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Particle filter: soot mass measured-MASS_SOOT_PHY_PF: -1.91 g
Particle filter: soot mass calculated-MASS_SOOT_SIM_PF: 10.82 g
Particle filter kilometers since last regeneration_1-DIST_RGN_ENVD_H: 316 km
Counter for regeneration time of particulate filter-T_INT_RGN_ACT_INI_PF_ENVD_H: 12596.0189 s
Particle filter: difference pressure-DIP_PF: 1.00 hPa
DPF: offset for differential pressure-DIP_PF_AD[0]: -2.07 hPa
Service regeneration: Release conditions 3-FRF_STATE_RGN: 1

Readiness: 1110 1000

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PARDON ME........HOLY MOLY!

Volkswagen

Part	Version
FL_03L906023ML	6836 9052 9647 9917 9917 9970 9971

 

[C-U-B-E-_-]

All files here "before emissions update"

PARDON ME........HOLY MOLY!

Volkswagen

Part	Version
FL_03L906023ML	6836 9052 9647 9917 9917 9970 9971

After emissions diesel update:
03L906023ML > 03L997557P

FL_03L997557P

9978 9980 9982

 

[Uwe]

PARDON ME........HOLY MOLY!

Old firmware isn't "FOD" in my book, but yeah., it should be updated, at least to the latest version before the emissions fix/fail.

-Uwe-

 

[Jack@European_Parts]

Old firmware isn't "FOD" in my book, but yeah., it should be updated, at least to the latest version before the emissions fix/fail.

-Uwe-

It is FOD if it was determined by a High German or US Court.

Volkswagen Loses EU Top Court Ruling in Diesel Scandal

Volkswagen AG’s use of technology that helped it bypass diesel engine pollution tests breached European Union rules, the bloc’s top court said in the latest round of a scandal that’s cost the world’s largest automaker more than 30 billion euros ($36.7 billion).

www.bloomberg.com

Don't worry OP the Israelites are a little late but not to worry right?

Dieselgate Saga Continues As Israel Files $152 Million Lawsuit Against Volkswagen AG | Carscoops

Israel says VW's EA189 engines emitted 3,881 tonnes of nitrogen dioxide

www.carscoops.com

Funny thing about "Games of the system" and "Courts" they are usually played with "Rackets" huh?

 

[khaledabdulaziz]

so first, car owner need to update firmware, how he can do that?
then i perform regeneration?

 

[Jack@European_Parts]

Doesn't dealer do for free, they do here?

 

[C-U-B-E-_-]

so first, car owner need to update firmware, how he can do that?
then i perform regeneration?

With the 9052 there were occasional problems with insufficient pressure tolerance = no regeneration. I would flash the "9971" and test it again. Whatever the case, the car had the update and was flashed back but part number 3C0129363A was not removed.

 

[khaledabdulaziz]

3C0129363A

what part exactly? you mean like version of firmware ?
and how would i flash the "9971" ?

 

[C-U-B-E-_-]

I don't know how to write it. The error P2458 can have many causes, from G450, exhaust sensors, DPF loading. But the MSG software 9052 could also be the cause. Off topic, look that 3C0129363A is not installed.

This part is not for this MSG software.



https://www.ebay.com/itm/Flow-Recti...433494700975dfb72402|ampid:PL_CLK|clp:2334524

 

[khaledabdulaziz]

Doesn't dealer do for free, they do here?

we live in west bank, nothing free nor anyone care about emissions, sadly
most of the times when we have a problem like this one, we just delete the DPF and EGR

 

[khaledabdulaziz]

With the 9052 there were occasional problems with insufficient pressure tolerance = no regeneration. I would flash the "9971" and test it again. Whatever the case, the car had the update and was flashed back but part number 3C0129363A was not removed.

im sorry but first you said part 3C0129363A was not removed and then

I don't know how to write it. The error P2458 can have many causes, from G450, exhaust sensors, DPF loading. But the MSG software 9052 could also be the cause. Off topic, look that 3C0129363A is not installed.

This part is not for this MSG software.

here you said the same part is not installed, im not quite understanding

 

[C-U-B-E-_-]

OK, I wasn't thinking about your country. Then please forget about the spare part. I just came up with the idea since there are people who reverse emissions updates and forget to remove the spare at 1.6. For your understanding:
FL_03L906023ML
6836 ?
9052 Bug
9647 Bug
9917 ?
9970 Ok
9971 OK
These are all no emission updates and no 3C0129363A installed.