Battery replacement help

PetrolDave · Feb 21, 2021

chillout1983 said:
I checked the resistance of both leads between each point all were ok ,

Resistance checks on leads that carry many amps isn't the best method - you need to know that the leads can carry LOTS of current without causing a voltage drop. An easy way is to use a high wattage bulb like a halogen headlamp bulb.

chillout1983 said:
I have cleared the fault and started the car twice since the original scan and the fault frequency stayed at 62

Might be worth trying to clear the fault code now that the fault frequency isn't going up.

chillout1983 · Feb 21, 2021

Hi thanks for your reply I will keep an eye on it and sort out something to load test the cables.

Uwe · Feb 21, 2021

chillout1983 said:
I have checked the ground from Battery to the chassis I have also checked the positive to the bus bar on the fuse box in the engine compartment while doing this I checked the resistance of both leads between each point all were ok

No, I mean the connection between the virtual module 61 (which is in the same physical module as your 19 and 46) and the battery data module (which is at the negative lead of the battery) and shows up as a sub-system in 61.

chillout1983 said:
I have cleared the fault and started the car twice since the original scan and the fault frequency stayed at 62

That's somewhat puzzling. What method did you use to clear this fault?

-Uwe-

chillout1983 · Feb 21, 2021

Hi I just cleared the fault on module 61 on it's own I expected it to increase in frequency with every start as the system as would be under load,

Sorry Uwe I am a bit confused at what I need to check

One thing that confuses me is the date of fault on module 61 being in 2015

Uwe · Feb 21, 2021

chillout1983 said:
One thing that confuses me is the date of fault on module 61 being in 2015

Is the date set correctly in this car?

-Uwe-

chillout1983 · Apr 7, 2021

Hi Uwe

Thank you for reply the fault has returned with a date in 2015 however I have a new Fault Code for a data bus issue with a headlight with a realistic date , would it be sensible to replace the negative battery lead as it likely wont cost much ?

Thanks
Chillout

Uwe · Apr 7, 2021

chillout1983 said:
would it be sensible to replace the negative battery lead as it likely wont cost much ?

I doubt the problem is with the negative lead itself. If it were, this would manifest as slow (or no) cranking by the starter motor.

-Uwe-

DV52 · Apr 7, 2021

@chillout1983: Extrapolating Uwe's numbers and if the date of first-record for the battery regulator can be believed, the fault was first logged on 2015.07.02 and since then it has re-occurred on 62 subsequent ignition cycles (let's ignore the possibility for multiple records within a single ignition cycle).

On a very rough calculation this means that the 62 occurrences happened over about 2,100 days - so the probability of occurrence is approximately once in every month (likelihood of happening on any day=3%)

So IMO, your observation ain't no surprise!! Maybe clear the DTC and keep a watch on re-occurrence-perhaps?

Don

chillout1983 · Apr 7, 2021

Hi

It was an old scan I used as a reference for Battery replacement so the 62 occurrences were between December 2020 and February 2021 , I was thinking to replace the lead so it has a new sensor rather than the lead itself being faulty also I was thinking it's odd how the fault has re occurred since being cleared with a 2015 date however during that time a new headlight fault has occurred with a 2021 date the 2015 date is odd as it wasn't present before the battery replacement.

Thanks
Chillout

chillout1983 · Apr 16, 2021

Hi
Can anyone suggest any measuring blocks related to the fault code that I can monitor

Thanks
Chillout

chillout1983 · May 2, 2021

Hi I carried out a dsg oil/filter change so I removed the battery carried out the service and replaced the negative battery lead with integrated sensor I have since covered around a 150 miles and the fault has occurred once However this time with a 2013 date I don't know what do next as the car and start stop are all ok.

Any help appreciated

Uwe · May 2, 2021

chillout1983 said:
the fault has occurred once However this time with a 2013 date

Take check the following Adaptation channels in 17-Instruments and correct the values if they do not reflect the current date:

IDE00502-ENG99640 -- Year
IDE00503-ENG102026 -- Month
IDE00504-ENG103838 -- Day

chillout1983 said:
Any help appreciated

Please post a current Auto-Scan.

-Uwe

chillout1983 · May 2, 2021

Hi Uwe

I will post a scan very soon however I have all of the above channels however the are a missing the last code so all I have is IDE00502 for the year however for each I get Error: channel not available.

Thanks for your reply

Code:

Sunday,02,May,2021,18:45:05:35088
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 21.3.0.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4543.4
Data version: 20210226 DS325.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ3CZFE037171   License Plate: MOD 61
Mileage: 64620km-40153mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 3C-VW46 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 47 4C 4F 52
          53 55 56 61 62 6C 6D 72

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZFE037171   Mileage: 64620km-40153miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFB)       Labels:. 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 PA    HW: 03L 907 309 AE
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H28 9978 
   Revision: 41H28---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 001D0012042501080000
   Shop #: WSC 34742 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018PA 003009
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018PA.rod
   VCID: 78BCE14BC35A5B4BFB-802C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 062 B    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     521 4336 
   Revision: 05652104    Serial number: 00001406120657
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00001
   VCID: 1464B5FB37F29F2B77-8040

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3AA-614-109.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 614 109 BM    HW: 3AA 614 109 BM
   Component: J104   C2 450M VDC9 0040 
   Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000008306711
   Coding: 0008115
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00001
   VCID: 79BAE44F3050424384-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 044 BT    HW: 3AA 907 044 BT
   Component: Climatronic   H05 0607 
   Revision: 00001K02   
   Coding: 061400C803
   Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW46.rod
   VCID: 034686A78A9C0893DE-8056

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 3AA-937-087.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 937 087 Q    HW: 3AA 937 087 Q
   Component: BCM PQ47 H+   422 0475 
   Revision: BC422001   
   Coding: 0208000000000000009C0080740029F423F54B88676D8760E488C7240041
   Shop #: WSC 05311 123 00001
   VCID: 48DC518BFB3AEBCB4B-801C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AC 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 20061  26  0612
   Coding: 00B795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 110714 05  54  0403
   Coding: 0630ED

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 3AE-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 3AE 919 475 C    HW: 7N0 919 475
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0018 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 28201418200198
   Coding: 308102
   Shop #: WSC 99999 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18VW47X0000 001006
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW47X0000.rod
   VCID: 3FCE4A57A6F4AC73FA-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 AE    HW: 5N0 959 655 AE
   Component: J234__10J VW10 HI   2418 
   Revision: 29020000    Serial number: 003N5PC03SMZ 
   Coding: 0012362
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00001
   VCID: 004C89AB538A138BC3-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS672781794

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS685451754

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS6JO2O1DKR

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS627S62DKJ

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 3C0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 3C9 953 501 CN    HW: 5K0 953 569 AS
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0140 
   Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20140624101118
   Coding: 199A250001
   Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
   ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
   VCID: 77BEE277CE445433F2-8022

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D    HW: 3C8 959 537 D  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TK6  H07 0022
   Coding: E30000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 3AA 920 981 A    HW: 3AA 920 981 A
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0705 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 161F01
   Shop #: WSC 05314 115 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04727
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW46.rod
   VCID: 332616679ABC78130E-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AS    HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: J533  Gateway H56 1653 
   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 250614F2001170
   Coding: 462007
   Shop #: WSC 05314 123 00001
   VCID: 014A8CAF98801A83CC-8054

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 799 E    HW: 3AA 959 799 E
   Component:    IMMO         090 0409 
   Revision: 00090000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   VCID: 4AD86B83253619DB5D-801E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 J
   Component:    ELV          029 0380
   3C0905861J     ELV          029 0380  

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 G    HW: 5N0 035 342 G
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770 
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7666435973   
   Coding: 020100
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00001
   VCID: 2B160E074A8C20D346-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels:| 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 279 S    HW: 3C8 035 279 S
   Component: RNS315-EU   H80 0500 
   Serial number: VWZAZ2P0380543
   Coding: 040700410100110000011002
   Shop #: WSC 40878 002 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS 001705
   ROD: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS.rod
   VCID: 3B363E47B2ECB053D6-806E

   Data carrier:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866
   Component: EUR_W_V6  0062

1 Fault Found:
1048641 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
          U1014 00 [009] - -
          [ECU wrong coded]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 97
                    Mileage: 53085 km
                    Date: 2019.08.22
                    Time: 21:26:58

                    Correction for sound system: OK
                    Traffic sign display: OK
                    CD-Changer: OK
                    Status of antenna 2 for radio: OK
                    Digital radio (DAB): OK
                    Antenna diagnostic: OK
                    Telephone baseplate diagnostic: OK
                    Speaker status: OK
                    Rearview camera: Malfunction
                    Telephone Transceiver: OK


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 701 A    HW: 3C0 959 793 C
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0534 
   Revision: 12110009    Serial number: 0008808303
   Coding: 0212F7
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3522287F94C8662320-8060

   Slave Driver:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3AA 959 704 A    HW: 3AA 959 794   Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  005 0503
   Serial number: 00000004061119     
   Coding: 0102D0

1 Fault Found:
67584 - Warning Light for Front Door
          B11F5 01 [008] - Electrical Failure
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 165
                    Reset counter: 241
                    Mileage: 53085 km
                    Date: 2019.08.23
                    Time: 20:01:42


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 196    3501 
   Revision: 00H22000   
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 393A244F70D08243C4-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 3C0-959-799-46.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 799 E    HW: 3AA 959 799 E
   Component: 02 KESSY PQ47   090 0375 
   Revision: 00090000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 01900A00D2C34E7634029C3F7E005FCE105800130427BC
   Shop #: WSC 05311 123 00001
   VCID: 4AD86B83253619DB5D-801E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H05 1501

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  004 0611

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
   Component: Innenraumueberw.004 0611

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 3AA 962 243 D
   Component: GEB.F.Heckoef       0811

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (R184)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 035 466     HW: 3AA 035 466
   Component: KonzernAmp12K H03 6904 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: A1108A00001899
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst12KanalSTT1 001001
   ROD: EV_AudioVerst12KanalSTT1_VW46.rod
   VCID: 6D92C01FBC18EEE318-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: EZE_2         H56 1653 
   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 250614F2001170
   Coding: 00000008
   Shop #: WSC 05314 123 00001
   VCID: 6FAEDA17BE141CF32A-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3AA 919 204 A    HW: 3AA 919 204 A
   Component: Analoguhr  004 0004

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 702 A    HW: 3C0 959 792 C
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0534 
   Revision: 14110009    Serial number: 0008782149
   Coding: 0212F6
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 36202F7389CE6D3B29-8062

   Slave Passenger:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3AA 959 703 A    HW: 3AA 959 795   Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  005 0503
   Serial number: 00000004054739     
   Coding: 0102D0

2 Faults Found:
67584 - Warning Light for Front Door
          B11F5 01 [008] - Electrical Failure
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 110
                    Reset counter: 237
                    Mileage: 53315 km
                    Date: 2019.08.25
                    Time: 18:19:35

133120 - Warning Light for Rear Door
          B11F7 01 [008] - Electrical Failure
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 8
                    Reset counter: 223
                    Mileage: 60380 km
                    Date: 2020.12.06
                    Time: 12:50:31


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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 J    HW: 3AA 907 801 J
   Component: J540 EPB4  VW-63206 0012 
   Revision:   H19       Serial number: 00000000168523
   Coding: 0022167
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00001
   VCID: 383C214B4BDA9B4B3B-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:. 5M0-907-357-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 F    HW: 7L6 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-ECU       H04 0111 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 029600000B000200
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt 002016
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt_VW46.rod
   VCID: 373E22778EC4943332-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329 B    HW: 3D0 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo links  H05 0012
   Coding: 230000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329 B    HW: 3D0 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo rechts  H05 0012
   Coding: 230000

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: Batt.regelung H56 1653 
   Serial number: 250614F2001170
   Coding: 030F1859
   Shop #: WSC 05314 123 00001
   VCID: 71AADC6FA8200A033C-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 H    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0180
   Serial number: 47267D11351491379655

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 3C9 907 441     HW: 3C9 907 441
   Component: J772__Rearview      0020 
   Revision: 00H15000    Serial number: 525PA8-JBX0068
   Coding: 0020007
   Shop #: WSC 40878 002 104857
   VCID: 689CB10B5BFACBCB6B-803C

1 Fault Found:
03006 - Back-up Camera System not calibrated
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 97
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 6D: Trunk Elect.        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 3AF 827 383 A    HW: 3AF 827 383 A
   Component: J605  HECKDECKEL    0860 
   Revision: 00H52001   
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00001
   VCID: 3A383B4375D6895BCD-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AF 827 384 A
   Component: J756  HECKDECKEL    0860

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 1600H52001001B0046я

No fault code found.

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chillout1983 · May 2, 2021

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Uwe · May 2, 2021

chillout1983 said:
for each I get Error: channel not available.

Well, if your cluster doesn't support those channels, then you can't set the date via a scan tool, so you may never get accurate dates in fault code freeze-frame data.

-Uwe-

chillout1983 · May 2, 2021

I have the time on the cluster but no date what I find odd is if I do have an error occur on another module the date will be correct

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