2016 GLI ESP and ABS faults. Anyone experience these?

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GLIRob

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Hi all... so my car faults in Drive mode with faults:


17178 - Implausible Data Received from ESP Control Module
U0416 00 [040] - -
Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module
013

Any thoughts ?? I’m going nuts here for 2weeks now.


My findings with the ESP in sport mode not ECS OFF completely:
-Drive mode in 3.5miles, it faulted again after clearing them.
-Sport mode, cleared faults and after 10miles of driving never faulted once.


Code:
Monday,07,December,2020,20:34:25:21683
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20200730 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VW4T7AJXGM236099   License Plate: ROB 12-7-20



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                Address 01: Engine       Labels: 06K-907-425-V2.clb
Control Module Part Number: 06K 906 071 AT    HW: 06K 907 425 C
  Component and/or Version: R4 Stg2 TFS   H13 4876
           Software Coding: 001D0012242400171000
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00066 000 00293
              ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS02006K906071AT 001005 (VW36)
                       ROD: EV_ECM20TFS02006K906071AT.rod
                      VCID: 7DF1F6C0ECA5DD6E78-8028
1 Fault Found:

17178 - Implausible Data Received from ESP Control Module
          U0416 00 [040] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 37889 km
                    Date: 2059.14.24
                    Time: 16:23:46

                    Engine speed: 1667.75 /min
                    Normed load value: 45.9 %
                    Vehicle speed: 60 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 86 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 16 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.238 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC is active despite EPB deceleration: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC active: although TSK passive: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-Start off or stop request at stopping speed not set: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-Start off and stop request sent simultaneously: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC active: although limiter active: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC reactivates itself after locking: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC sends undefined signals: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC active although main switch off: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC is active despite driver braking: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC is active despite ESP/ASR passive sampling: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Deceleration sensor not available: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Deceleration sensor malfunction: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP system error: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP system malfunction due to inaccurate engine torque: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP indicates TSK message consistency error: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-TSK/ESP handshake error: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP automatic engagement malfunction: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Brake light implausible: No


Readiness: 0000 0000

Code:
Monday,07,December,2020,20:35:59:21683
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20200730 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN:    License Plate: ROB ABS 12-07-20


                Address 03: ABS Brakes       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 379 CB    HW: 1K0 907 379 CB
  Component and/or Version: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0174
           Software Coding: A14B600C49250000850B06ED922200412018F06A
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00066 000 00000
                      VCID: 74E7D3E4D7EF9C2607-8020
1 Fault Found:

01314 - Engine Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101101
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 41
                    Mileage: 37889 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2059.14.24
                    Time: 16:23:46

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 24
                    Count: 32768
                    Count: 4608
                    Count: 8196
                    Count: 51259
                    Count: 1
                    Count: 258
                    Count: 0
 
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Since these questions do involve VCDS, moving from General VW/Audi Repair to New Users section.

Please post a complete Auto-Scan for context.

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Here is the full scan

Code:
Wednesday,09,December,2020,19:26:43:21683
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.12.0.1 (x64)
Data version: 20201125 DS322.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VW4T7AJXGM236099   License Plate: FULL SCAN
Mileage: 37930km-23568mi   Repair Order:


Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 2B 3C 42 44 46 47 4F 52
          55 5F 62 72 75

VIN: 3VW4T7AJXGM236099   Mileage: 37930km-23568miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
75-Telematics -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CPPA)       Labels:. 06K-907-425-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 06K 906 071 AT    HW: 06K 907 425 C
   Component: R4 Stg2 TFS   H13 4876 
   Revision: --H13---   
   Coding: 001D0012242400171000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00293
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS02006K906071AT 001005
   ROD: EV_ECM20TFS02006K906071AT.rod
   VCID: 7DF1F6C0ECA5DD6C69-8028

1 Fault Found:
17178 - Databus
          U1123 00 [036] - Received Error Message
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 37935 km
                    Date: 2020.12.09
                    Time: 19:09:58

                    Engine RPM: 1722.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 37.6 %
                    Vehicle speed: 61 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 85 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 16 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.199 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC is active despite EPB deceleration: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC active: although TSK passive: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-Start off or stop request at stopping speed not set: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-Start off and stop request sent simultaneously: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC active: although limiter active: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC reactivates itself after locking: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC sends undefined signals: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC active although main switch off: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC is active despite driver braking: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC is active despite ESP/ASR passive sampling: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Deceleration sensor not available: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Deceleration sensor malfunction: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP system error: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP system malfunction due to inaccurate engine torque: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP indicates TSK message consistency error: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-TSK/ESP handshake error: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP automatic engagement malfunction: No
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Brake light implausible: No

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 043 T    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: TVS DSG         531 2299 
   Revision: 06253104    Serial number: 00001506120064
   Coding: 0000024
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 90108
   VCID: 2541FEA0ECB5B5AC51-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 CB    HW: 1K0 907 379 CB
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0174 
   Revision: 00H46001   
   Coding: A14B600C49250000850B06ED922200412118F06A
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 74E7D3E4D7EF9C2416-8020

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101101
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 5
                    Mileage: 37935 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.12.09
                    Time: 19:09:59

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 8
                    Count: 32768
                    Count: 4608
                    Count: 8196
                    Count: 51260
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 256
                    Count: 0


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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 E    HW: 5K0 959 434
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 092 1202 
   Revision: 00092000    Serial number: 0373208211
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00293
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02717
   ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G_A02_VW31.rod
   VCID: 377D24E88E19373CF3-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 907 044 AR    HW: 1K8 907 044 AR
   Component: Climatronic   H05 0304 
   Revision: 00001K02   
   Coding: 0050019002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00320
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 7F0D0CC8E6A9CF7C7B-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 AJ    HW: 5K0 937 087 AJ
   Component: BCM PQ35 H+   122 0183 
   Revision: BL122001   
   Coding: EF200A3A942F06D40188008124008BCC0174000E45A08DB2E4842000A040
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   VCID: 7DF1F6C0E4A5DD6C69-8028

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 080715 05  54  0403
   Coding: 02300A

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 919 472 B    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0479 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 39331519700769
   Coding: 0071155011
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00320
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18VW364GP00 001006
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW364GP00_VW32.rod
   VCID: 366329EC8913CE34E8-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 561-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 655     HW: 561 959 655
   Component: AirbagVW11    001 0207 
   Serial number: 003RXM00RM38
   Coding: 8CCCF000000000005000001AC20800000065
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00065
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW11SMEVW411 001002
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW11SMEVW411.rod
   VCID: 63C5A0B86A010B9C7F-8036

   Seat occupied recognition:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339 B    HW: 4M0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H11 0021
   Serial number: IBH000000000003AKC49
   Coding: 30314C

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 506 15
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887
   Serial number: 357000000006B029841D

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 506 15
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887
   Serial number: 35800000000507298419

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 023 006 15
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  000 0148
   Serial number: 3510001A319D1C31A670

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 020 906 15
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  000 0148
   Serial number: 3520001BD19BDF25475L

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 020 807 15
   Component: FrontSensor_D  000 0189
   Serial number: 3550001BD1B2C52293A9

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 020 807 15
   Component: FrontSensor_P  000 0189
   Serial number: 3560001BD1B2C520F47C

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 CR    HW: 5K0 953 569 BF
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   018 0230 
   Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20150702201993
   Coding: 0012440008
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00065
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C 001001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C.rod
   VCID: 7F0D0CC8E6A9CF7C7B-802A

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 C    HW: 6C0 959 442 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H03 0102
   Serial number: 29150001070060035212
   Coding: B1FFFF

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5C6 920 985 C    HW: 5C6 920 985 C
   Component: KOMBI         H04 1009 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 271E010000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00320
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05730
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
   VCID: 326B15FC657BD214C4-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 BC    HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: J533  Gateway H56 1663 
   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 29071503000366
   Coding: 351032
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00065
   VCID: 72EBD5FCADFB921404-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H04 1009 
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00320
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW23.rod
   VCID: 6ADBCD9C8D2B5AD4BC-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:* 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 C    HW: 5K0 905 861 C
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H21 0240 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 15000155110004
   Coding: 4900000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00320
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X_VW01.rod
   VCID: 306F1FF46B77E004B2-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change (J1086)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-686.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 686 B    HW: 5Q0 907 686 B
   Component: HRE_Master    H11 0071 
   Serial number: 0372977213
   Coding: 02011102
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00293
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HREntryHella 001028
   ROD: EV_HREntryHella_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3C773BC4B73F14641E-8068

   Lane change assistance control module 2:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 907 685 B    HW: 5Q0 907 685 B
   Component: HRE_Slave  H11 0071
   Serial number: 0372997556         
   Coding: 020111

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 701     HW: 3C0 959 793 B
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0515 
   Revision: 13110009    Serial number: 0009903010
   Coding: 0404BD
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00196
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
   VCID: 5BB598585271335C37-800E

   Slave Driver:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 M    HW: 6R0 959 811 M
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5460
   Serial number: 14102587150803023402
   Coding: 800000

1 Fault Found:
131584 - Motor for Rear Window Regulator
          B11EE 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 37873 km
                    Date: 2020.12.05
                    Time: 15:49:40


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 306    3501 
   Revision: 00H22000   
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 397922D0700D214C05-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 5C6 035 456 C    HW: 5C6 035 456 C
   Component: KonzernAmp10K 6831 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: EAA098C0064535
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3 S01001
   ROD: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3_VW36.rod
   VCID: 285FF79453A7A8C46A-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: EZE_2         H56 1663 
   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 29071503000366
   Coding: 01030100
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00065
   VCID: 6FEDDC88BEC9BFFCEB-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 591 A    HW: 6R0 959 591 D
   Component: J245 PS41.402  H03 0004
   Serial number: 0000FST000AMWD500000
   Coding: 180000

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 702     HW: 3C0 959 792 B
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0515 
   Revision: 15110009    Serial number: 0009912985
   Coding: 0404BC
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00196
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
   VCID: 5CB79B44577F34643E-8008

   Slave Passenger:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 M    HW: 6R0 959 812 M
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5460
   Serial number: 14202586150731091716
   Coding: 800000

1 Fault Found:
131584 - Motor for Rear Window Regulator
          B11EE 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 37873 km
                    Date: 2020.12.05
                    Time: 15:49:41


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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:. 5M0-907-357-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 F    HW: 7L6 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-ECU       H05 0111 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 081200010B000200
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt 002016
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt_VW32.rod
   VCID: 377D24E88E19373CF3-8062

   Left_headlamp_power_output_stage:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB

   Right_headlamp_power_output_stage:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 5N0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 035 684     HW: 5C0 035 684
   Component: MU-S-NS-US    H21 0241 
   Serial number: VWZAZ2R0364976
   Coding: 02630102AA00000051220003001808001F0100D400200105C6
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00065
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW32.rod
   VCID: 62CBA5BC751B029474-8036

   Data carrier:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3G0 919 866 B    HW: -----------
   Component: NAR 2015/16  --- 0220
   Serial number: --------------------

No fault code found.

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Address 75: Telematics (J949)       Labels:| 12E-035-284.clb
   Part No SW: 561 035 285 A    HW: 561 035 285 A
   Component: OCULowUSA     020 0156 
   Serial number: 000003554140540
   Coding: 02630102C24232107F1606000000
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_OCULow 002009
   ROD: EV_OCULow_002.rod
   VCID: 1427B364FF2F3C24B6-8040

No fault code found.

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Scratching head. I don't see anything terribly obvious other than the fact that the ECU has FOD software in it.

The fault in the ABS is strictly a sympathy code.

-Uwe-
 
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GLIRob

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Can you please explain what is a FOD software?? Also this all started after I got my ECU back from my tuner.

It sets the stabilizer off and the car is not drivable. I have to pull over and restart the car.
 

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FOD = Foreign Object Damage = your tuner software that is not factory.

And since you are telling that all the troubles started after you got your ECU back from your tuner... The FOD software is likely at the root of the troubles..
 
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Ok thank you all. Keep you posted
 
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FOD = Foreign Object Damage = your tuner software that is not factory.

And since you are telling that all the troubles started after you got your ECU back from your tuner... The FOD software is likely at the root of the troubles..


So my issue is this here and this is the latest. However it only does it in Drive mode only and not in Sport mode with the ECS in sport when cruising. Any ideas would be greatly apprenticed.


Code:
Tuesday,22,December,2020,21:15:36:21683

VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64

VCDS Version: 20.12.0.1 (x64)

Data version: 20201125 DS322.1

www.Ross-Tech.com





VIN: 3VW4T7AJXGM236099   License Plate: 12-22-2020 #2

Mileage: 37960km-23587mi   Repair Order:







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Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (7N0)

Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 2B 3C 42 44 46 47 4F 52

          55 5F 62 72 75



VIN: 3VW4T7AJXGM236099   Mileage: 37960km-23587miles



01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010

02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000

03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010

04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000

05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000

08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000

09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000

10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000

15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000

16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000

17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000

19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000

25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000

2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000

3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000

42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010

44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000

46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000

47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000

4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000

52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010

55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000

5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000

62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000

72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

75-Telematics -- Status: OK 0000



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 01: Engine (J623-CPPA)       Labels:. 06K-907-425-V2.clb

   Part No SW: 06K 906 071 AT    HW: 06K 907 425 C

   Component: R4 Stg2 TFS   H13 4886

   Revision: --H13---  

   Coding: 001D0012242400171000

   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00293

   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS02006K906071AT 001003

   ROD: EV_ECM20TFS02006K906071AT.rod

   VCID: 7DF1F6C0ECA5DD6C69-8028



1 Fault Found:

17178 - Databus

          U1123 00 [036] - Received Error Message

          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 00000001

                    Fault Priority: 6

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Mileage: 37960 km

                    Date: 2020.12.22

                    Time: 09:01:57



                    Engine RPM: 1620.50 /min

                    Normed load value: 36.9 %

                    Vehicle speed: 52 km/h

                    Coolant temperature: 88 °C

                    Intake air temperature: 35 °C

                    Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.750 V

                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40

                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC is active despite EPB deceleration: No

                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC active: although TSK passive: No

                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-Start off or stop request at stopping speed not set: No

                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-Start off and stop request sent simultaneously: No

                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC active: although limiter active: No

                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC reactivates itself after locking: No

                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC sends undefined signals: No

                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC active although main switch off: No

                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC is active despite driver braking: No

                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-ACC is active despite ESP/ASR passive sampling: No

                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Deceleration sensor not available: No

                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Deceleration sensor malfunction: No

                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP system error: No

                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP system malfunction due to inaccurate engine torque: No

                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP indicates TSK message consistency error: No

                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-TSK/ESP handshake error: No

                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-ESP automatic engagement malfunction: No

                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Brake light implausible: No



Readiness: 0000 0000



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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb

   Part No SW: 02E 300 043 T    HW: 02E 927 770 AL

   Component: TVS DSG         531 2299

   Revision: 06253104    Serial number: 00001506120064

   Coding: 0000024

   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 90108

   VCID: 2541FEA0ECB5B5AC51-8070



No fault code found.



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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb

   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 CB    HW: 1K0 907 379 CB

   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0174

   Revision: 00H46001  

   Coding: A14B600C49250000850B06ED922200412118F06A

   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345

   VCID: 74E7D3E4D7EF9C2416-8020



1 Fault Found:

01314 - Engine Control Module

            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 00101101

                    Fault Priority: 2

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 45

                    Mileage: 37960 km

                    Time Indication: 0

                    Date: 2020.12.22

                    Time: 09:01:57



             Freeze Frame:

                    Count: 24

                    Count: 32768

                    Count: 4608

                    Count: 8196

                    Count: 49716

                    Count: 0

                    Count: 256

                    Count: 0





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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb

   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 E    HW: 5K0 959 434

   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 092 1202

   Revision: 00092000    Serial number: 0373208211

   Coding: 030C0C

   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00293

   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02717

   ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G_A02_VW31.rod

   VCID: 377D24E88E19373CF3-8062



No fault code found.



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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb

   Part No SW: 1K8 907 044 AR    HW: 1K8 907 044 AR

   Component: Climatronic   H05 0304

   Revision: 00001K02  

   Coding: 0050019002

   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00320

   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010

   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod

   VCID: 7F0D0CC8E6A9CF7C7B-802A



No fault code found.



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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb

   Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 AJ    HW: 5K0 937 087 AJ

   Component: BCM PQ35 H+   122 0183

   Revision: BL122001  

   Coding: EF200A3A942F06D40188008124008BCC0174000E45A08DB2E4842000A040

   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029

   VCID: 7DF1F6C0E4A5DD6C69-8028



   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB

   Component: RLS 080715 05  54  0403

   Coding: 02300A



No fault code found.



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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb

   Part No SW: 1K8 919 472 B    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A

   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0479

   Revision: --------    Serial number: 39331519700769

   Coding: 0071155011

   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00320

   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18VW364GP00 001006

   ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW364GP00_VW32.rod

   VCID: 366329EC8913CE34E8-8062



No fault code found.



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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 561-959-655.clb

   Part No SW: 561 959 655     HW: 561 959 655

   Component: AirbagVW11    001 0207

   Serial number: 003RXM00RM38

   Coding: 8CCCF000000000005000001AC20800000065

   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00065

   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW11SMEVW411 001002

   ROD: EV_AirbaVW11SMEVW411.rod

   VCID: 63C5A0B86A010B9C7F-8036



   Seat occupied recognition:

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339 B    HW: 4M0 959 339 B

   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H11 0021

   Serial number: IBH000000000003AKC49

   Coding: 30314C



   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 506 15

   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887

   Serial number: 357000000006B029841D



   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 506 15

   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887

   Serial number: 35800000000507298419



   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 023 006 15

   Component: SideSensor_Dr  000 0148

   Serial number: 3510001A319D1C31A670



   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 020 906 15

   Component: SideSensor_Pr  000 0148

   Serial number: 3520001BD19BDF25475L



   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 020 807 15

   Component: FrontSensor_D  000 0189

   Serial number: 3550001BD1B2C52293A9



   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 020 807 15

   Component: FrontSensor_P  000 0189

   Serial number: 3560001BD1B2C520F47C



No fault code found.



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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb

   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 CR    HW: 5K0 953 569 BF

   Component: LENKS.MODUL   018 0230

   Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20150702201993

   Coding: 0012440008

   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00065

   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C 001001

   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C.rod

   VCID: 7F0D0CC8E6A9CF7C7B-802A



   Multifunction steering wheel control module:

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 C    HW: 6C0 959 442 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB

   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H03 0102

   Serial number: 29150001070060035212

   Coding: B1FFFF



No fault code found.



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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1

   Part No SW: 5C6 920 985 C    HW: 5C6 920 985 C

   Component: KOMBI         H04 1009

   Serial number: 00000000000000

   Coding: 271E010000

   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00320

   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05730

   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod

   VCID: 326B15FC657BD214C4-8066



No fault code found.



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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb

   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 BC    HW: 7N0 907 530 AN

   Component: J533  Gateway H56 1663

   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 29071503000366

   Coding: 351032

   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00065

   VCID: 72EBD5FCADFB921404-8026



No fault code found.



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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb

   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234

   Component: IMMO          H04 1009

   Serial number:             

   Coding: 000007

   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00320

   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710

   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW23.rod

   VCID: 6ADBCD9C8D2B5AD4BC-803E



No fault code found.



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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:* 5K0-905-861.clb

   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 C    HW: 5K0 905 861 C

   Component: ELV-PQ35      H21 0240

   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 15000155110004

   Coding: 4900000000000000

   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00320

   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001

   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X_VW01.rod

   VCID: 306F1FF46B77E004B2-8064



No fault code found.



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Address 3C: Lane Change (J1086)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-686.clb

   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 686 B    HW: 5Q0 907 686 B

   Component: HRE_Master    H11 0071

   Serial number: 0372977213

   Coding: 02011102

   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00293

   ASAM Dataset: EV_HREntryHella 001028

   ROD: EV_HREntryHella_VW32.rod

   VCID: 3C773BC4B73F14641E-8068



   Lane change assistance control module 2:

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 907 685 B    HW: 5Q0 907 685 B

   Component: HRE_Slave  H11 0071

   Serial number: 0372997556        

   Coding: 020111



No fault code found.



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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb

   Part No SW: 561 959 701     HW: 3C0 959 793 B

   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0515

   Revision: 13110009    Serial number: 0009903010

   Coding: 0404BD

   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00196

   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001

   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod

   VCID: 5BB598585271335C37-800E



   Slave Driver:

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 M    HW: 6R0 959 811 M

   Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5460

   Serial number: 14102587150803023402

   Coding: 800000



1 Fault Found:

131584 - Motor for Rear Window Regulator

          B11EE 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting

          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 00000001

                    Fault Priority: 7

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 5

                    Mileage: 37955 km

                    Date: 2020.12.22

                    Time: 07:58:12





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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb

   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R

   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 306    3501

   Revision: 00H22000  

   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108

   VCID: 397922D0700D214C05-806C



No fault code found.



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Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb

   Part No SW: 5C6 035 456 C    HW: 5C6 035 456 C

   Component: KonzernAmp10K H08 6831

   Revision: --------    Serial number: EAA098C0064535

   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3 S01001

   ROD: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3_VW36.rod

   VCID: 285FF79453A7A8C46A-807C



No fault code found.



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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb

   Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 7N0 907 530 AN

   Component: EZE_2         H56 1663

   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 29071503000366

   Coding: 01030100

   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00065

   VCID: 6FEDDC88BEC9BFFCEB-803A



   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 591 A    HW: 6R0 959 591 D

   Component: J245 PS41.402  H03 0004

   Serial number: 0000FST000AMWD500000

   Coding: 180000



No fault code found.



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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb

   Part No SW: 561 959 702     HW: 3C0 959 792 B

   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0515

   Revision: 15110009    Serial number: 0009912985

   Coding: 0404BC

   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00196

   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001

   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod

   VCID: 5CB79B44577F34643E-8008



   Slave Passenger:

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 M    HW: 6R0 959 812 M

   Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5460

   Serial number: 14202586150731091716

   Coding: 800000



1 Fault Found:

131584 - Motor for Rear Window Regulator

          B11EE 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting

          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 00000001

                    Fault Priority: 7

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 5

                    Mileage: 37955 km

                    Date: 2020.12.22

                    Time: 07:58:12





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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:. 5M0-907-357-V3.clb

   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 F    HW: 7L6 907 357 C

   Component: AFS-ECU       H05 0111

   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------

   Coding: 081200010B000200

   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029

   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt 002016

   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt_VW32.rod

   VCID: 377D24E88E19373CF3-8062



   Left_headlamp_power_output_stage:

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB



   Right_headlamp_power_output_stage:

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 5N0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB



No fault code found.



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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb

   Part No SW: 5C0 035 684     HW: 5C0 035 684

   Component: MU-S-NS-US    H21 0241

   Serial number: VWZAZ2R0364976

   Coding: 02630102AA00000051220003001808001F0100D400200105C6

   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00065

   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022

   ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW32.rod

   VCID: 62CBA5BC751B029474-8036



   Data carrier:

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3G0 919 866 B    HW: -----------

   Component: NAR 2015/16  --- 0220

   Serial number: --------------------



No fault code found.



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Address 75: Telematics (J949)       Labels:| 12E-035-284.clb

   Part No SW: 561 035 285 A    HW: 561 035 285 A

   Component: OCULowUSA     020 0156

   Serial number: 000003554140540

   Coding: 02630102C24232107F1606000000

   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316

   ASAM Dataset: EV_OCULow 002009

   ROD: EV_OCULow_002.rod

   VCID: 1427B364FF2F3C24B6-8040



No fault code found.



End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:36)--------------------------
 
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Could you please wrap "code" tags around your autoscan posts. Thank you.

As to the issue, have you talked to your tuner? Is it not obvious that the changes they made has caused these issues?
 
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Not sure what you mean by the wrap code scan.

Also I did talk to my tuner and sent the ECU which was checked over again for the tune etc. Got it back and it’s still doing this surge act.

Only does it Drive mode, I have to pull over and cycle key and it goes away. And Doesn’t do it sport driving, soon as I threw it drive mode it surged like this. I’ll be driving in Drive mode and it sets off the stabilizer and does this.
 
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Please read this post and learn how to use Code tags.
How to post an Auto-Scan

I still say that if the problems began after the tuned ECU was installed, the problem lies with the tune. I would think the tuner company would help you resolve it.

I don't see any others with words of wisdom.
 
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Yea unfortunately the tuner doesn’t agree with that it could be the tune.
Thanks for the help though
 
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That's sad... a company should stand behind the things they do.
 
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Yes very frustrating. Car made almost 400whp on the dyno in manual mode but can’t drive in Drive mode regularly. No epc or check engine light as well which makes this even harder.
Keep being though that’s it’s a bad component related issue.
 
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Yea unfortunately the tuner doesn’t agree with that it could be the tune.
Thanks for the help though
I would revert back to the stock OEM tune and see if the issue goes away then - if it does you have solid evidence that the tune is the cause.
 
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