Audi A6 C6 -- Camshaft Position Sensor B Bank 1 (G300) -- P0366 - 006 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON

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Good evening, it's that time again when something's amiss with the beloved OWdi. :(
Hoping someone can dispense some wisdom on how scr*wed I am LOL...

I searched the forum but couldn't see any threads to add this on, so I hope it's OK that I start a new one.

Car: 2005 A6 Quattro 3.2L

Recently there is a rattle under the hood when starting up that does go away after a few minutes. However, the car has bad gas mileage and idles rough, like it isn't running on all cylinders. Just popped a MIL and this is the read-out:

Code:
Friday,04,December,2020,15:58:36:43060
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 20.12.0.1  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4529.4
Data version: 20201125 DS322.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUDG74F25N122676   License Plate: TR5DA
Mileage: 198920km-123603mi   Repair Order: 


Chassis Type: 4F (4F0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 0F 15 16 17 19 36 42 46 47 4F 52 53
          55 56 61 62 65 67 72 77

VIN: WAUDG74F25N122676   Mileage: 198920km-123603miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (AUK)       Labels:. 06E-910-559-BKH.clb
   Part No SW: 4F2 910 559 B    HW: 4F1 907 559 E
   Component: 3.2l V6 FSI         0020  
   Revision: --H21---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 01050109190F0120
   Shop #: WSC 05139 444 83890
   VCID: 2B03FA8C1F0FB313F60-807E

9 Faults Found:
000632 - Fuel Injector #6 (N84) 
               P0278 - 006 - Contribution/Balance Fault - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 18
                    Reset counter: 20
                    Mileage: 194171 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.04.08
                    Time: 12:54:37

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1376 /min
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 92.7 mg/str
                    Temperature: 79.5°C
                        Idle
                    Load: 11.0 %
                    Speed: 44.0 km/h

000020 - Bank 1: Camshaft B (Exhaust) 
               P0014 - 008 - Retard Setpoint not Reached (Over-Advanced)
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00001000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 198743 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.11.30
                    Time: 17:13:47

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1568 /min
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 98.1 mg/str
                    Temperature: 79.5°C
                        Overrun
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Steering Angle: -100.36°

000870 - Camshaft Position Sensor B Bank 1 (G300) 
               P0366 - 006 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 10100001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 16
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 198759 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.12.01
                    Time: 07:33:31

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 832 /min
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 92.7 mg/str
                    Temperature: 85.5°C
                        Idle
                    Bin. Bits: 00010000
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h

000769 - Cylinder 1 
               P0301 - 007 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000010
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 32
                    Mileage: 198772 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.12.01
                    Time: 16:57:46

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1696 /min
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 228.9 mg/str
                    Temperature: 42.0°C
                        Part Throttle
                    Time: 25.6 s
                    Speed: 23.0 km/h

000771 - Cylinder 3 
               P0303 - 007 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000010
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 32
                    Mileage: 198772 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.12.01
                    Time: 16:57:46

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1696 /min
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 228.9 mg/str
                    Temperature: 42.0°C
                        Part Throttle
                    Time: 25.6 s
                    Speed: 23.0 km/h

000770 - Cylinder 2 
               P0302 - 007 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000010
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 32
                    Mileage: 198772 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.12.01
                    Time: 16:57:46

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1696 /min
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 228.9 mg/str
                    Temperature: 42.0°C
                        Part Throttle
                    Time: 25.6 s
                    Speed: 23.0 km/h

000768 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected 
               P0300 - 006 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 35
                    Mileage: 198772 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.12.01
                    Time: 16:57:46

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 896 /min
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 190.8 mg/str
                    Temperature: 19.5°C
                        Idle
                    Time: 51.2 s
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h

000772 - Cylinder 4 
               P0304 - 007 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000010
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 33
                    Mileage: 198792 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.12.02
                    Time: 07:21:49

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 896 /min
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 190.8 mg/str
                    Temperature: 19.5°C
                        Idle
                    Time: 51.2 s
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h

000773 - Cylinder 5 
               P0305 - 007 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000010
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 33
                    Mileage: 198792 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.12.02
                    Time: 07:21:49

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 896 /min
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 190.8 mg/str
                    Temperature: 19.5°C
                        Idle
                    Time: 51.2 s
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F1 910 156 H    HW: 09L 927 156 
   Component: AG6 09L 3.2 FSI USA 0020  
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number:        4028906
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 290F008415F3A10304C-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4F0-910-517.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 L    HW: 4F0 614 517 L
   Component: ESP 8.0 quattro H03 0090  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0020895
   Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
   VCID: 2D07F494211BBD23E84-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels:. 4F0-910-852.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 852     HW: 4F0 905 852 B
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV   H30 0160  
   Revision: 27100401    Serial number: 10600300155096
   Coding: 0000015
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 639352AC375F3B530E0-8036

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 131 L
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H44 0070

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 335 
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 KSG   H26 0080

No fault code found.

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Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 4F0-910-7xx-07-H.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 732 Q    HW: 4E0 035 729 
   Component: Interfacebox    H43 4610  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 360DK057523670
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 05139 444 104911
   VCID: 313FE8E43D23D9C3CCC-8064

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 609 B
   Component: Bedienteil MMIC6H07 0010

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000143950

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0120.04.050000000100010067ÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010067ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4F0-910-043.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 043     HW: 4F1 820 043 J
   Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH11 0150  
   Revision: 00000026    Serial number: 00000000140982
   Coding: 0524326
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 5BE36A4C0F2F0393460-800E

1 Fault Found:
01853 - Heated Seat; Left Front (Z45) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 195
                    Mileage: 198924 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.12.04
                    Time: 15:54:22

             Freeze Frame:
                    Temperature: 23.0°C


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 279     HW: 4F0 907 279 
   Component: ILM Fahrer      H14 0080  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 4F0907279     
   Coding: 0002121
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 66954BB8C46D4E7BE9E-8032

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F1 910 113   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AudiC6  H05 0150  
   Coding: 00062736
   Shop #: WSC 02335  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH10 0050  
   Coding: 00141886
   Shop #: WSC 02335  

1 Fault Found:
02095 - Component Protection Active 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 195
                    Mileage: 198924 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.12.04
                    Time: 15:54:00


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Address 0E: Media Player 1        Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 111 F    HW: 4E0 035 111 A
   Component: CD-Changer      H44 0470  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ5ZBE7162212
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 1C6129504AA144AB8FA-8048

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-593-XM.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 593 G    HW: 4E0 035 593 C
   Component: SDAR XM         H04 0670  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7D3022210
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B03FA8C1F0FB313F60-807E

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 195
                    Mileage: 198924 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.12.04
                    Time: 15:54:19


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4F0-910-655-8R.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 B    HW: 4F0 959 655 A
   Component: 56 AIRBAG AUDI8RH29 0310  
   Revision: 10H29000    Serial number: 00359D08CD6Q  
   Coding: 0013622
   Shop #: WSC 05139 444 83890
   VCID: 26150BB804ED8E7B29E-8072

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 339 
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 002 0040

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332CSME090C33570

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342CSME097E1B228

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME07172617+

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME070A2202Y

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 6371VSME07284D23M

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 6381VSME07286733K

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 549     HW: 4F0 953 549 A
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul H07 0230  
   Revision: 00H07000    Serial number: 90025051100025
   Coding: 0002041
   Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
   VCID: 66954BB8C46D4E7BE9E-8032

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: Lenkradmodul    H02 0030

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4F0-910-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 900 A    HW: 4F0 920 950 M
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H10 0630  
   Revision: 01000000    Serial number: 4R850TV45     
   Coding: 2129263
   Shop #: WSC 50451 001 1048576
   VCID: 1E6523585CBD56BB61E-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 4F0-910-468.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 468 A    HW: 4F0 907 468 D
   Component: Gateway         H10 0060  
   Revision: 10          Serial number: 120080542881C4
   Coding: 6CFE73CD1B5904
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 270B06BC03E79773128-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 760     HW: 4F0 959 760 
   Component: Sitzmemory FS   H04 0050  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000896400
   Coding: 0082954
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 619F58A42D4329431CC-8034

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 4F0-910-793-42.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 B    HW: 4F0 959 793 B
   Component: TSG FA          H11 0040  
   Revision: 00-00000    
   Coding: 0051947
   Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
   VCID: 290F008415F3A10304C-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 4F0-910-289.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 G    HW: 4F0 907 289 G
   Component: Komfortgeraet   H18 0120  
   Revision: 01200018    Serial number: 01003941210000
   Coding: 4618301
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 2E05F3982C1DC63BD1E-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

1 Fault Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 195
                    Mileage: 165174 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.08.24
                    Time: 17:20:11


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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4F5 910 223 F    HW: 4F5 035 223 E
   Component: DSP-High C6     H14 0330  
   Revision: PROD_01     Serial number: 00000000030664
   Coding: 0000026
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 26150BB804ED8E7B29E-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 280     HW: 4F0 907 280 A
   Component: ILM Beifahrer   H10 0050  
   Revision:             Serial number: 00000000089631
   Coding: 0001114
   Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
   VCID: 5EE563581C3D16BB21E-800A

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 4F0-910-793-52.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 B    HW: 4F0 959 792 B
   Component: TSG BF          H11 0040  
   Revision: 00-00000    
   Coding: 0051947
   Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
   VCID: 290F008415F3A10304C-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 801     HW: 4F0 907 801 
   Component: EPB  C63C0030   H03 0030  
   Revision: C63C0030    
   Coding: 0005022
   Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
   VCID: 5DE76454113B0DA3384-8008

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 357     HW: 4L0 907 357 
   Component: AFS 1           H01 0040  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000016
   Shop #: WSC 05139 444 109253
   VCID: 698F4084D5736103C4C-803C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 A
   Component: AFS-Modul links H05 0010

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 A
   Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH01 0010

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 T    HW: 4F0 035 541 B
   Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0630  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 394ES057543740
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 313FE8E43D23D9C3CCC-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul.        Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E    HW: 4F0 915 181 A
   Component: ENERGIEMANAGER  H12 0490  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000027842
   Shop #: WSC 05139 444 58901
   VCID: 231312AC77DF7B534E0-8076

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 C
   Component: von VA0  0330207712       
   Coding: 344630393135313035432056413030333330323037373132
   Shop #: WSC 57227 000 1048576

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 795     HW: 4F0 959 795 
   Component: TSG HL          H11 0030  
   Coding: 0051754
   Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
   VCID: 698F4084D5736103C4C-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 4F0-910-273-BA.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 273     HW: 4F0 907 273 
   Component: Reifendruck 3   H04 0080  
   Revision: 00040080    Serial number: 00000700004988
   Coding: 0062221
   Shop #: WSC 05139 444 59514
   VCID: 60995DA02649204B132-8034

No fault code found.

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Address 67: Voice Control        Labels: 4E0-910-75x-67.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 754 Q    HW: 4E0 035 753 A
   Component: SDS 3501 US     H45 0630  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000504220168
   Shop #: WSC 12336 024 394758
   VCID: 3431E1F0C231ECEBA7A-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 795     HW: 4F0 959 794 
   Component: TSG HR          H11 0030  
   Coding: 0051754
   Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
   VCID: 698F4084D5736103C4C-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 4E0-910-336.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 336 H    HW: 4E0 862 335 
   Component: Handyvorb2      H10 1130  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000007521822
   Coding: 0010900
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 280905800EF9980B1B2-807C

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:51, VBatt start/end: 12.3V/12.1V)-----------
** Camshaft Position Sensor B Bank 1 (G300) -- P0366 - 006 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON **

I'm worried about driving it in case there is a problem with the timing chain - could that be causing the rattle sound?
Where is that sensor located and does it look like it needs replacing?

As always, any help would be much appreciated!
 
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Anybody, please? :cry:
 
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Do not drive or operate engine!

Check oil pressure and if oil in engine yet?

Verify volume and sump pickup as per RTFB to design yet?

Verify timing mechanically as per RTFB with inspection NOT basic settings with scan tool?

Did you know there is no indication of a faulty sensor?

JPPSG!

 
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I'm worried about driving it in case there is a problem with the timing chain - could that be causing the rattle sound?
It certainly could.
Where is that sensor located and does it look like it needs replacing?
If the engine was running fine, I consider the possibility that the fault is due to a problem with the sensor, but since it's not running well, I'd suggest that the fault code is pointing at an actual problem. I'm with Jack. Don't drive it. Get it checked out.

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Thanks for your input, Jack.

Oil level is fine, I'm on top of oil and water like a hawk.
Not a mechanic, so no idea about verifying "volume and sump pickup" - will check into it.

Don't know how to verify timing mechanically but will check that as well. I hope the brother has no plans this weekend.

And no, I did not know the sensor may not be faulty. That would have been an easy fix, right?

Just shoot me... :cry:
 
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It certainly could.

If the engine was running fine, I consider the possibility that the fault is due to a problem with the sensor, but since it's not running well, I'd suggest that the fault code is pointing at an actual problem. I'm with Jack. Don't drive it. Get it checked out.

-Uwe-
Thanks, Uwe.
I *had* been driving it since it popped the code (!!!) - what I noticed was the initial rattle on start up which goes away after short time and then it performs well, driving it with no noticeable lack of power. Like nothing's wrong. When stopping, it intermittently rough idles, so far without stalling or RPMs dropping. And gas mileage is off...
 
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I *had* been driving it since it popped the code (!!!) - what I noticed was the initial rattle on start up which goes away after short time and then it performs well, driving it with no noticeable lack of power. Like nothing's wrong. When stopping, it intermittently rough idles, so far without stalling or RPMs dropping. And gas mileage is off...
Could be a chain tensioner acting up. Could be an oil pressure problem. Could be stretched chain. I understand that my assesment is not good news, but it is a 15+ year old car with almost 125,000 miles on it.

My daughter has essentially the same car (same year, same engine, but fewer miles). If hers were acting as you describe, I would take it to a trusted mechanic.

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Investigation of adjuster is a good idea but an oil sump being sludged or psi problem is more likely, however, an adjuster could indeed be in failure.

Reason is, adjuster is mechanically advanced static and oil pressure is used to push adjuster to retard timing. It is less likely an adjuster & due to such deviation reported in DTC.
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Adjusters are set static "advanced" due to cold start requirements of this and impossible to perform adjustments before engine is started!

Also since the noise upon start up indicates a loose chain as a result combined with adjuster of no or loss of being inadequate oil pressure/volume.

An oil leak on the bank could also be related to such created conditions aforementioned.
 
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A not so great update for anybody following this: Careful not to drive/operate it, I had the car towed to a repair shop that specializes in imports and this type of work. They started it up and let it run. Until it jumped the chain...:eek::facepalm: :cry:

2020 just will not stop sucking.
 
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VIN: WAUDG74F25N122676 Mileage: 198920km-123603miles <<<<<<<<<<<< So SAD :cry:

This sure does sound like a widespread problem and worthy of safety recall no?
Did you report this unsafe condition to NHTSA?
What if it happened during driving and caused an accident?
It is not like every timing chain controlled stratified VW-AUDI has been a ubiquitous/pervasive failure or to be blamed on an oil/fuel specification & that fails to provide such protection for the premium costs over the useful life or to its afterlife, now is it?

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Sorry to hear this Dani.

It is what I refer to as a xylophone of the valves &..........playing "Endearing Young Charms".

Did the shop think they could get rid of the Audi and it would look like an accident? :p

These two videos come to my warped mind.


 
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VIN: WAUDG74F25N122676 Mileage: 198920km-123603miles <<<<<<<<<<<< So SAD :cry:
I know, right? :confused:
Bought it 3 1/2 years ago with "only" 100K on it. Thought it was going to be good for another 80K or so, like the 1996 A6 Q I had before getting this one. It still ran with 227K on the clock!

This one's been thru some of the worst "OMG" Audi illnesses incl. a dead start/access auth module 6 months into owning it (it was what prompted me to the VAG COM, I had the module rebuilt), a dead ABS module (you helped when I came on here to get some support) and main door lock actuator (damn micro switches). Also replaced the a/c compressor earlier this year which had me post here in the forum, too. Strangely, those posts are gone. Is that supposed to happen?!

This sure does sound like a widespread problem and worthy of safety recall no?
Probably. I just don't have the mind for it right now... Still trying to figure out my options. The car is otherwise in excellent shape for its age, both inside and out. Not willing to junk it yet. :(
Maybe get the engine reworked and the chain and tensioners replaced - seems to be isolated to the right side only.
Or get a replacement engine under 100K w/ 3 year warranty...

What struck me as weird is the shop saying it was low on oil - I had just topped it up a week earlier and no sign of any massive leakage - certainly not 2 quarts. The car pops a "min oil level" idiot light every so often and when I check it, it always still has min or more oil in it. So no way Jose unless it happen *after* the jump...

Sorry to hear this Dani.
Thanks, Jack for the condolences... despite all appearances to the contrary, I'd like to think that some how, it's "not quite dead yet" (Monty Python)... Call me crazy, I get emotionally attached to my cars and I'm not ready to bury this one quite yet! lol

Did the shop think they could get rid of the Audi and it would look like an accident? :p
Funny you should say that... Here's the real kicker: a couple of months ago, some dingus in an Astro van ran a red light and clipped me in the front. My cat like reflexes averted major damage, only driver side headlight and bumper got bruised. It took the Audi certified collision repair place 3 weeks to fix that (!!) ... Like I said, this year is something else.

These two videos come to my warped mind.
I love wrapped minds, they go so well with mine... Klaus is my favorite. Did I mention I'm a Kraut? :D
 
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This one's been thru some of the worst "OMG" Audi illnesses incl. a dead start/access auth module 6 months into owning it (it was what prompted me to the VAG COM, I had the module rebuilt), a dead ABS module (you helped when I came on here to get some support) and main door lock actuator (damn micro switches). Also replaced the a/c compressor earlier this year which had me post here in the forum, too. Strangely, those posts are gone. Is that supposed to happen?!
I am pretty confident they are not gone, but some of the database indexes may need to be rebuilt again? @Santos?

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If anybody is interested in the continuation of the saga:

I decided to have the engine swapped. The repair shop is putting finishing touches on things and it's running.
However, apparently it popped that dreaded "P1653" ABS fault.
I went through this in March last year and you guys helped me recode the replacement ABS module.
Unfortunately my posts on it in here are still missing.

I don't have a full scan because it's still in the shop.
So my upfront question would be: could replacing the engine have caused this fault? The module was rebuilt, so I doubt it went bad this fast.

As always your input is greatly appreciated.
 
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could replacing the engine have caused this fault?
Seems unlikely, particularly if you're just replacing the mechanical bits and the ECU hasn't changed.

Are you using the same computer? If so, your scans should still be there in the Scans sub-folder.

@Santos: Can you please look into why Dani's old posts are missing?

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Seems unlikely, particularly if you're just replacing the mechanical bits and the ECU hasn't changed.
Thanks, Uwe and Happy New Year. Glad to hear that. Definitely "just" the engine.
After the first repair shop blew one of the timing chains during diagnostics, I decided they weren't trustworthy / knowledgeable enough to work on it.
So I found another place and decided to do an engine swap. He's not an AUDI mechanic as the other place claimed to have but he has been doing great.

Are you using the same computer? If so, your scans should still be there in the Scans sub-folder.
Yep, and I do have all my old scans.
Was just wanting to read through the forum posts to revisit the issue, see if I can figure this out once more.
While not impossible, I can't imagine it's the rebuilt module. It definitely happened *after* it was last towed because I turned on the ignition myself.

Maybe it's a bad wheel speed sensor. I know the front tires were off and the engine bay was all but empty LOL so who knows... I'll have him check things over, wish me luck.
 
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Was just wanting to read through the forum posts to revisit the issue
We've gone digging through an archival copy of the old forum software. We only found 9 posts from you in the old forum.

Is it possible this is what you're looking for?

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We've gone digging through an archival copy of the old forum software. We only found 9 posts from you in the old forum.

Is it possible this is what you're looking for?

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Yep. Didn't even realize there *was* an old forum! :p

So you must have wished me luck because apparently the ABS/ESP idiot light was a false alarm, probably after the battery disconnect. It went away when he test drove the car.
Still keeping my fingers crossed, though.
This car has a way of smacking you upside the head frequently and without warning.
Definitely an abusive relationship and I just took it back once again! :D:D:D
Shh, don't say it too loudly but ... it runs again and does it well. ;)
Have a great weekend.
 
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Didn't even realize there *was* an old forum!
Yup, the original vBulletin software got replaced by XenForo last Labor Day weekend. :)

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