Audi A3 8P 2011 Replaced Battery

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Hi All,

Recently purchased a HEX-V2 interface and used it to diagnose/confirm a dying battery, after being left for 2 days the engine was cranking but would not start, using VCDS I could see battery had never been changed since 2011 and voltage dropping to 6V during cranking, have replaced battery but am unsure and have a question about coding in new serial number, this car has Start/Stop so has a battery management module in it:

I'm using VCDS > Battery Regul > Long Adaptation 04

The original battery had the BEM code on it which read: 7P0915105 VAO211011B0KF, however the new battery does not have this and only has a VARTA Code sticker which reads: A 22 E39 010 4EF

Original value: 068 VAO 211011B0KF

I've temporarily put in: 070 VAO 2E390104EF

The car starts/works fine but I'd rather put the correct information in as I've read about the values needing to be correct for the battery management module to charge it correctly (unless serial number doesn't matter ?)

Any help would be appreciated

Thanks
 
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There are 2 different versions of the BMS, one is a standalone module and the other is a sub-module from the CAN Gateway.

To know which your 8P A3 has, and advise correctly, we'll need to see a full unedited VCDS Auto-Scan.
 
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There are 2 different versions of the BMS, one is a standalone module and the other is a sub-module from the CAN Gateway.

To know which your 8P A3 has, and advise correctly, we'll need to see a full unedited VCDS Auto-Scan.
Apologies, see below:

Code:
Friday,27,November,2020,14:39:03:11435
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20200730 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ8P3CA074771   License Plate:
Mileage: 144180km-89589mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 8P-AU35 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 61 62 72 77
        

VIN: WAUZZZ8P3CA074771   Mileage: 144180km-89589miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFGB)       Labels:. 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 AK    HW: 03L 906 018 AG
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H26 7765 
   Revision: 41H26---    Serial number: AUX7Z0K9FNH0MT
   Coding: 001D0032040501080000
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018AK 003004
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI011_AU35.rod
   VCID: 73B3D4DD7B37E2235F1-8026

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 057     HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     511 2701 
   Revision: 05351113    Serial number: 00001109301990
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 56F58D498405970B58F-8002

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BJ    HW: 1K0 907 379 BJ
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0121 
   Revision: 00H31001   
   Coding: 16426012092900FE681206EB901A0092390800
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 7BA3FCFD53E7AA63071-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8P0 820 047 D    HW: 8P0 820 047 D
   Component: J255  Klima Man H08 0060 
   Revision: 00H08004    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 313F1ED5CD2B9033EDD-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8P0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 907 063 N    HW: 8P0 907 063 N
   Component: BCM PQ35  M   110 0653 
   Revision: 00110 AF   
   Coding: 4E000A2FA005F0C0207041E00100015C427A29AA006DC122E4000F800041
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 3FDB48ED077F76436B9-806A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8P2 955 119 F    HW: 8P2 955 119 F  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AU350  H11 0050
   Coding: 00DD13

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 910 557     HW: 8K0 955 559 A  Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: REGENLICHTSEN  H04 0003
   Coding: 024C2D

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8P0 951 177
   Component: Innenraumuebe  H04 0020

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9005

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
   Component: Neigungssenso  005 0003

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 8P0-919-475-7X1.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 919 475 M    HW: 8P0 919 475 M
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H01 0140 
   Revision: 11001001    Serial number: 36861128002923
   Coding: 000103
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 48C9533152B131FBDA3-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 8P0-959-655-10.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 S    HW: 8P0 959 655 S
   Component: Airbag AU1042 H09 0250 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003JU004DD84
   Coding: 30314238303830303037554A305238503053
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001
   ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4.rod
   VCID: 52FD7159A46D8B2BB47-8006

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 3572DRB40000E11509FV

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
   Serial number: 3582DRB40000E10CF1F2

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
   Serial number: 35128RB4000065E9B98.

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
   Serial number: 35228RB40000660BE36M

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 35547RB4000066CD4CA0

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Serial number: 35647RB4000066CDA7D5

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8P0-953-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 K    HW: 8P0 953 549 K
   Component: J0527           H37 0070 
   Coding: 0014112
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 46D55D0954A5278B28F-8012

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: E0221           H02 0100

1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY8.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 983     HW: 8P0 920 983
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H02 0150 
   Revision: D0H02002    Serial number: 2249K002009347
   Coding: 0256428
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 77ABE0CD63CF8E03639-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 J    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway H43 1620 
   Revision:   H43       Serial number: 021011F2002410
   Coding: 352103
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 372B20CD2F4F4E03A39-8062

1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 41
                    Mileage: 144184 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.11.23
                    Time: 00:10:42


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 983     HW: 8P0 920 983
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H02 0150 
   Revision: D0H02002    Serial number: AUX7Z0K9FNH0MT
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 77ABE0CD63CF8E03639-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 8P0-959-801-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 P    HW: 8P0 959 801 P
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0101 
   Coding: 0131764
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 48C953315EB131FBDA3-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 232    3201 
   Revision: 00H20000   
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 343117C13239A51B86B-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 802 P    HW: 8P0 959 802 P
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0101 
   Coding: 0131764
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 49CF563545BBC8F3C5D-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: Batt.regelung H43 1620 
   Serial number: 021011F2002410
   Coding: F30B185A
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 71BFDED501ABD033ADD-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 H    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0180
   Serial number: 00000000008900776665

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 8P4-959-801.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P4 959 801 F    HW: 8P4 959 801 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0050 
   Coding: 0131216
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
   VCID: 42DD4119788D1BAB047-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 8P4-959-802.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P4 959 802 F    HW: 8P4 959 802 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0050 
   Coding: 0131216
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
   VCID: 43D3441D679712A30F1-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P1 862 335 A    HW: 8P1 862 335
   Component: FSE_256x BT     H44 0660 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005452234
   Coding: 0001222
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 35372AC53943BC13B15-8060

2 Faults Found:
02503 - Output Wire to Radio
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 41
                    Mileage: 144184 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.11.23
                    Time: 00:10:37

01304 - Radio
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 8
                    Reset counter: 42
                    Mileage: 144184 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.11.23
                    Time: 00:10:37


End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:26, VBatt start/end: 12.3V/12.3V)-----------
 
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OK, you have the separate module at #61.

Provided the battery is the same type (AGM or EFB) and the same Ah capacity (within sensible variation e.g. 60Ag or 65Ah) then all you need to do is change the serial number, what you change it to doesn't matter - it just needs to be different. The usual advice is that it is enough just to change one digit.

Taking that into account what you have entered looks OK to me.
 
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OK, you have the separate module at #61.

Provided the battery is the same type (AGM or EFB) and the same Ah capacity (within sensible variation e.g. 60Ag or 65Ah) then all you need to do is change the serial number, what you change it to doesn't matter - it just needs to be different. The usual advice is that it is enough just to change one digit.

Taking that into account what you have entered looks OK to me.
Thanks for the reply, appreciate it, will see how it goes, changing the subject a bit do you happen to know anything about turning off the Radio errors ?, I've fitted my own head unit and haven't connected the radio wires, I looked in VCDS but couldn't see anything obvious regarding radio controls, or is that best left for another thread ?
Thanks for the reply
 
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