Putting an Antigravity (lithium ion) battery into a 2013 Audi RS5... coding using UDS vs. CAN?

   #1  

volvofan

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Mar 29, 2018
Messages
22
Reaction score
21
Location
USA
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=331532
So, I've dropped a 60 amp-hour Antigravity battery into my Audi RS5, and dropped 45 lbs in the process (while also saving a few cubic inches that will allow me to install a subwoofer amp). The problem is, the alternator is working a bit TOO well for the battery's liking. I did my best to code using VCDS to the closest thing I could find, based on amp-hours. I tried coding it to the part number for a 60 AH battery (using the VCDS instructions on the wiki for Battery Replacement and "19-CAN Gateway using CAN"), and I've tried both the AGM and the "traditional" (flooded) battery part numbers, as best as I can tell... but I fear that google is letting me down, as the battery continues to overcharge and shut itself down. I'd much rather follow the VCDS instructions for recoding in the Battery Replacement instructions under "19-CAN Gateway using UDS/ODX" where I'll get the option to manually enter the Amp-hour capacity of the battery. Is there a way to "choose" between the different ways of interfacing with the modules?

Thanks,
-Jon
 
   #2  

Uwe

Benevolent Dictator
Administrator
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
48,925
Reaction score
33,653
Location
USA
VCDS Serial number
HC100001
No, the module uses whatever protocol and channels that are defined in its software.

The Gateway in your ~10 year old car looks to be too old to explicitly support Li-ion (really LiFePO) batteries.

-Uwe-
 
   #3  

Ape Factory

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Nov 10, 2018
Messages
40
Reaction score
7
Location
USA
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=321067
Uwe, could you elaborate on the gateway and what it is that wouldn't support LiFePO batteries? Is it a coding/firmware incompatibility in one of the modules?

The issues volvofan is referring to doesn't seem to rear up on every car and some have had zero issues or very few and far between (me being one of the few and far between). I've noticed on deceleration that the voltage increases and many of the "incidents" where the dash lights up like a Christmas tree, giving multiple faults for the transmission, diff, steering etc..., come after deceleration then rapid acceleration events. This happened to me in "D" mode where the kick down switch under the throttle is activated and the DL-501 drops into the lowest gear possible for rapid acceleration. I think it might somehow be linked to the regenerative braking feature on our alternators.

Interestingly, the maker of an add-on wireless Carplay/Android Auto unit now has a setup menu item called "dual clutch compatibility". Without that checked, it'll cause the same symptoms we're experiencing with the Antigravity. I'm trying to understand the mechanisms which would cause the car to flip out. When these events happen, cycling the ignition system solves the problem.

Because the LiFeP0 cells can discharge and charge much more rapidly, I wouldn't think the alternator's output would be an issue unless the system can't shunt/bleed of excess voltage to ground rapidly enough?
 
   #4  

Uwe

Benevolent Dictator
Administrator
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
48,925
Reaction score
33,653
Location
USA
VCDS Serial number
HC100001
Uwe, could you elaborate on the gateway and what it is that wouldn't support LiFePO batteries?
The CAN gateway is the module in most newer cars that controls the alternator (via a LIN bus) and determines the battery's state-of-charge (via LIN bus to a current sensor on the battery's negative lead). The newer the car and the gateway, the more types of batteries it supports. One issue with LiFePO batteries is that the should never exceed 3.6V per cell, or 14.4V in a typical battery that four of those cells in series ("4S").

Now many newish cars play energy-saving games with battery charging ("regenerative braking"). Instead of using a constant chgarging voltage, they keep system voltage (and therefore alternator load on the engine) relatively low except under deceleration, when extra load on the engine is essentially free. That's when they try to do the majority of charging, and then they'll run the system voltage way up in an attempt to stuff as many Amp-hours of charge into the battery as quickly as possible. That's all well and good if the module controlling this knows what the battery is capable of, but if it tries to apply 15V to a battery that can't handle this, you're probably gonna have a bad time. I would guess that those batteries have some sort of over-voltage protection in them that takes them off-line when this happens, but I'm not certain.

-Uwe-
 
   #5  

Ape Factory

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Nov 10, 2018
Messages
40
Reaction score
7
Location
USA
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=321067
The batteries do have an over voltage circuit protection which is obviously good. I've since coded in a small Ah AGM-style battery and haven't seen any issues after driving around and trying to reproduce an over voltage situation. I did a bunch of datalogging that 3I need to go through yet but it appears we do have regenerative battery charge system under braking.

Is there any way to code the BCM to limit voltage output from the alternator to 14.4V max? The Antigravity batteries can charge and discharge more rapidly than a standard battery but we obviously need to limit the voltage level. Volvofan is working on "tricking" the CanBus via the J533 module into thinking it's seeing higher voltage. I'm looking at resistors to limit voltage but I'd only want it triggered at 14.4V.
 
   #6  

Eric

Active Member
Staff member
Ross-Tech Employee
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
3,892
Reaction score
5,780
Location
Lansdale, PA, USA
VCDS Serial number
HC800000
Have you considered simply disabling regenerative braking aka recuperation? No guarantee it'll take but your gateway might have this coding option:
Code:
LC,01,0~1,00,Vehicle w/o Recuperation (< MY 2008)
LC,01,0~1,03,Vehicle with Recuperation (MY 2009 >)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Uwe
   #7  

Uwe

Benevolent Dictator
Administrator
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
48,925
Reaction score
33,653
Location
USA
VCDS Serial number
HC100001
Another thing that might be worth trying is to just take the bloody BEM/BMS/BDM off-line entirerly. It makes no sense to have it when you're using a battery it doesn't understand. This will obviously throw a fault code, but that doesn't really matter. I think with it off-line, the gateway will revert to using something resembling a constant voltage charge, which will hopefully be less than 14.4V.

In any case, it should only take a minute or two to unplug the thing (it will in-line with the negative/ground terminal of your battery). You don't need to remove it from the car, you only need to unplug the low-current connector from it. One of those wires will be the LIN bus back to the Gateway. If it doesn't accomplish what's needed here, it's also easy to reverse; just plug it back in an clear the fault code in the Gateway.

-Uwe-
 
   #8  

RS3mike

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Aug 30, 2022
Messages
8
Reaction score
0
Location
Greece
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=402687
So, I've dropped a 60 amp-hour Antigravity battery into my Audi RS5, and dropped 45 lbs in the process (while also saving a few cubic inches that will allow me to install a subwoofer amp). The problem is, the alternator is working a bit TOO well for the battery's liking. I did my best to code using VCDS to the closest thing I could find, based on amp-hours. I tried coding it to the part number for a 60 AH battery (using the VCDS instructions on the wiki for Battery Replacement and "19-CAN Gateway using CAN"), and I've tried both the AGM and the "traditional" (flooded) battery part numbers, as best as I can tell... but I fear that google is letting me down, as the battery continues to overcharge and shut itself down. I'd much rather follow the VCDS instructions for recoding in the Battery Replacement instructions under "19-CAN Gateway using UDS/ODX" where I'll get the option to manually enter the Amp-hour capacity of the battery. Is there a way to "choose" between the different ways of interfacing with the modules?

Thanks,
-Jon
Sorry to start the conversation back from the dead but I need some help. Recently bought a LithiumNext85 battery from Germany. I coded with VCDS and when I started the engine was around 14.4-14.5v until few days.. after that I see the battery drop to 13.1v and I decided to charge it at home. Again the same.. I think that all the problems coming from that BMS which not understanding what the battery needs?
Any solution to this issue? Why the engine doesn’t keep the battery around to 13.7-14.x ? Other people saying unplug the BMS connector but isn’t that thing a good idea.
 
   #9  

Uwe

Benevolent Dictator
Administrator
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
48,925
Reaction score
33,653
Location
USA
VCDS Serial number
HC100001
Any solution to this issue?
Without knowing what kind of car this is in, preferably via you posting an Auto-Scan for the details, it is unlikely.

-Uwe-
 
   #10  

RS3mike

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Aug 30, 2022
Messages
8
Reaction score
0
Location
Greece
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=402687
Hey RS3 8V. Nothing from autoscan.
 
   #11  

Uwe

Benevolent Dictator
Administrator
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
48,925
Reaction score
33,653
Location
USA
VCDS Serial number
HC100001
Nothing from autoscan.
We're not looking for fault codes. We're looking for the exact details (ASAM versions) for the modules in the car.

-Uwe-
 
   #12  

RS3mike

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Aug 30, 2022
Messages
8
Reaction score
0
Location
Greece
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=402687
We're not looking for fault codes. We're looking for the exact details (ASAM versions) for the modules in the car.

-Uwe-
Hello

Code:
Friday,16,September,2022,20:25:14:62929
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 22.9.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4623.4
Data version: 20220830 DS341.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WUAZZZ8V9KA905967   License Plate:


Chassis Type: 8V-AU37 (3Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 13 14 15 17 19 22 29 2B 39 3C 42 44 47
          4B 52 5F 65 6C A5 A9 BB BC CF D6 D7

VIN: WUAZZZ8V9KA905967   Mileage: 21559km-13396miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
29-Left Light -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
39-Right Light -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4B-Multifunc. Module -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: OK 0000
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
BB-Door Rear Drv -- Status: OK 0000
BC-Door Rear Pass -- Status: OK 0000
CF-Lane Chge Asst 2 -- Status: OK 0000
D6-Light Ctrl Left 2 -- Status: OK 0000
D7-Light Ctrl Right 2 -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-DNWA)       Labels:. 07K-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8V0 907 404 H    HW: 07K 907 309 F
   Component: R5 2.5l TFSI  H20 0003 
   Revision: 55H20000    CVN: 0DC3C701
   Coding: 0A254032246609033620
   Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM25TFS0118V0907404H 001004
   ROD: EV_ECM25TFS0118V0907404H.rod
   VCID: 3E24C68670F8E8EBD5F-806A
   VINID: 9E546AAAA22625B4490052461C73532AD6

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels:. 0BH-927-711.clb
   Part No SW: 0DL 300 013 E    HW: 0GC 927 711 G
   Component: GSG DQ500     H06 3024 
   Revision: 00H06V07    CVN: 4C130C7A
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ500021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ500021_001_VW37.rod
   VCID: 2C00FCCE96846A7B6BB-8078

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8V0 614 517 D    HW: 8V0 614 517 C
   Component: ESC           H25 0640 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 61299000000842
   Coding: 2E9C6B8DD49923AE8B9A0B6A40986974D62BC4D1D00296771841508482A8420000000012121212B835351919323200
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 037008
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_037_AU37.rod
   VCID: 3A2CCA966CD0C4CBE97-806E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-435.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 959 435 L    HW: 3Q0 959 435 L
   Component: VWKESSYMQB    037 1204 
   Revision: 00037000    Serial number: 0516723831
   Coding: 030C0C1720
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB 004046
   ROD: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB.rod
   VCID: 43D2B7721B1A8503BA1-8016

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (E87)       Labels:| 8V0-820-043.clb
   Part No SW: 8V0 820 043 AF    HW: 8V0 820 043 AF
   Component: AC Automat    H03 0150 
   Revision: 20003000    Serial number: 00000001832345
   Coding: 03000015000000001000000000001000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiFrontVaAU37X 008025
   ROD: EV_AirCondiFrontVaAU37X_008.rod
   VCID: 76B41EA6184860ABCDF-8022

   Humidity sensor: exterior:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658 B    HW: 4H0 907 658 B
   Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor  H02 0007
   Serial number: 4B019BA900PAG0MUFU03

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 5Q0-937-08X-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 DC    HW: 5Q0 937 084 CF
   Component: BCM MQBAB M+  H38 0273 
   Serial number: 01001914500435
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06324 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMMQB 019001
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_019_VW37.rod
   VCID: 7CA00C8E26643AFBBBB-8028

   Wiper motor control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8V1 955 119 C    HW: 8V1 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
   Component: WWS371 190424  043 0585
   Serial number:         190507142927
   Coding: 0A47F7

   Rain/Light Recognition Sensor:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 81A 955 547 A    HW: 81A 955 547
   Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0002
   Serial number: 21913590X81A955547A0
   Coding: 00006C

   Light switch:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8V0 941 531 AR    HW: 8V0 941 531 AR
   Component: E1 - LDS MQB  H06 0032
   Serial number: 12 03 2019  20001183

   Anti-theft alarm system sensor:
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8V0 951 177     HW: 5Q0 951 172
   Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0316
   Serial number: 000000000ZY190902DBR

   Alarm horn:
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605 A    HW: 5Q0 951 605 A
   Component: Sirene, DWA  005 0314
   Serial number: 00000000000047195048

   Sunroof control module:
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 8V3 959 591 A    HW: 8V3 959 591 A
   Component: J245 PS73.404  H04 0005
   Serial number: 0000FST002C7JX100000
   Coding: 901F00

   Steering Column Switch:
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 82A 953 521 CQ    HW: 5Q1 953 549
   Component: J527 SMLS MQB  004 0070
   Serial number: 00000017051920240866

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
   Part No SW: 5QA 919 294 C    HW: 5QA 919 294
   Component: PDC 8 KanalH07 0050 
   Serial number: 000308418019133
   Coding: 0470155811
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 009039
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000.rod
   VCID: 4CC09C4E36444A7B4BB-8018

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-572-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 572 P    HW: 5Q0 907 572 J
   Component: ACC BOSCH MQB H11 0682 
   Coding: 3500E7C15DFFC7247498814580402600000000000000000004
   Shop #: WSC 06324 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCBOSCHVW416 002008
   ROD: EV_ACCBOSCHVW416_002_VW37.rod
   VCID: 44D0B46E1E14823B83B-8010

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 14: Susp. Elect. (J250)       Labels: 8V0-907-376.clb
   Part No SW: 8V0 907 376 H    HW: 8V0 907 376 F
   Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H11 0083 
   Serial number:       090519046
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudiMagneRide 003007
   ROD: EV_AudiMagneRide_003.rod
   VCID: 46D4AE662828B02B9DF-8012

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 BT    HW: 5Q0 959 655 BT
   Component: AirbagVW21    007 0403 
   Serial number: 003FNR5BTBRM
   Coding: 98CCC000008000005C5400000048000000C5
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002164
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
   VCID: 137247322BFAD5834A1-8046

   Left seat belt tensioner:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 945 B    HW: 5G0 980 945 B
   Component: BeltPretRevFL  H37 0350
   Serial number: 34120583D22051930436
   Coding: 333135

   Right seat belt tensioner:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 946 B    HW: 5G0 980 946 B
   Component: BeltPretRevFR  H37 0350
   Serial number: 34120584D22051920312
   Coding: 333135

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 405 19
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887
   Serial number: 35700000000F5441CC3S
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 405 19
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887
   Serial number: 35800000000FE5483C3.
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 305 19
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  005 6149
   Serial number: 3510001C8F029AA3C6DO
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 105 19
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  005 6149
   Serial number: 3520001C4F051DB6A237
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 805 19
   Component: FrontSensor_D  005 6149
   Serial number: 3550001BCEFE786415AZ
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI2
   Part No SW: 8V0 920 790 C    HW: 8V0 920 790 C
   Component: FBenRDW       H19 0109 
   Coding: 040D18D27E8C00080084FE0F1428501000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardFPKAU37X 001032
   ROD: EV_DashBoardFPKAU37X.rod
   VCID: 3C20CC8E66E4FAFBFBB-8068

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 3Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 530 AA    HW: 3Q0 907 530 C
   Component: GW MQB High   442 4368 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0009609019
   Coding: 030100043F085D005B00807EB80B00000001010000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00021
   GVL: 01CE3C100000060040CC80000002CC0000040000000200000000000000000000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewNF 013025
   ROD: EV_GatewNF_VW37.rod
   VCID: 6E8436C66018586B05F-803A

   Generator:
   Component: 1-01-09-01-04 

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8W0 951 523 F    HW: 8W0 951 523 F
   Component: J453 MFL  H04 0004
   Serial number: 20190521010134 30119

   Battery Monitoring Control Module:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8S0 915 181 C    HW: 8S0 915 181 C
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H10 9070
   Serial number: 5603061205         

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels:* 0CQ-907-554.clb
   Part No SW: 0CQ 907 554 K    HW: 0CQ 525 130
   Component: Haldex4Motion H55 7762 
   Serial number: HA1-00023.04.19
   Coding: 0601
   Shop #: WSC 06325 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 002015
   ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X.rod
   VCID: 4DC6914ACD5E43735C5-8018

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 29: Left Light (J1018)       Labels: 8S0-907-397.clb
   Part No SW: 8S0 907 397 D    HW: 8S0 907 397 D
   Component: LCM_MQB       H07 0022 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LCMLeftCONTIAU426 001009
   ROD: EV_LCMLeftCONTIAU426_VW41.rod
   VCID: 42DCB27604008C0BB17-8016

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:| 1EA-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 2Q0 905 861 A    HW: 2Q0 905 861 A
   Component: ELV-MQBB      H08 0021 
   Serial number: 19000152526015
   Coding: 0800000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarqMQBA0 002002
   ROD: EV_ELVMarqMQBA0_VW37.rod
   VCID: 313EEDBAB1A6079358D-8064

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 39: Right Light (J1023)       Labels: 8S0-907-397.clb
   Part No SW: 8S0 907 397 D    HW: 8S0 907 397 D
   Component: LCM_MQB       H07 0022 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LCMRightCONTIAU426 001009
   ROD: EV_LCMLeftCONTIAU426_VW41.rod
   VCID: 42DCB27604008C0BB17-8016

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 3C: Lane Change (J769)       Labels:| 3Q0-907-566.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 566 H    HW: 3Q0 907 566
   Component: MRR1Rear      H25 0630 
   Revision: --------   
   Coding: 04C002
   Shop #: WSC 06324 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RearRadarS1BoschVW48X 001007
   ROD: EV_RearRadarS1BoschVW48X_AU37.rod
   VCID: 3D26C18A7DFEF3F3CC5-8068

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 F    HW: 5Q0 959 593 F
   Component: TSG FS002 0287 
   Serial number: YE007SEE22488
   Coding: 005E1A205000008000001002
   Shop #: WSC 06325 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU2DriveSideMAXHKLO 001010
   ROD: EV_DCU2DriveSideMAXHKLO_VW37.rod
   VCID: 44D0B46E1E14823B83B-8010

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 909 144 M    HW: 3Q0 909 144 L
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  507 5082 
   Coding: 911F0000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 015157
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_015.rod
   VCID: 3C20CC8E66E4FAFBFBB-8068

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:| 81A-035-466.clb
   Part No SW: 81A 035 466 B    HW: 81A 035 466
   Component: MIB2_amp_P_A3 H10 0440 
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number: AUZ8ZAK5F02GNRL
   Coding: 0173030000AAAA2AAA0000010000
   Shop #: WSC 06324 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AMPMst16C9Gen2ALPI 001002
   ROD: EV_AMPMst16C9Gen2ALPI.rod
   VCID: 241014EEFE54A23BA3B-8070

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 4B: Multifunc. Module (J745)       Labels:| 3Q0-907-338-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 338 C    HW: 3Q0 907 338 C
   Component: FCM MQB Low   002 0345 
   Serial number: 16051910520173
   Coding: 000000050900147206202B17020000000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MultiModulContiVW48X 002006
   ROD: EV_MultiModulContiVW48X_002_VW41.rod
   VCID: 3536D9AA45CE2BB3045-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 F    HW: 5Q0 959 592 F
   Component: TSG BFS002 0287 
   Serial number: YE007SEF18583
   Coding: 005E12205C00008000001002
   Shop #: WSC 06325 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU2PasseSideMAXHKLO 001010
   ROD: EV_DCU2PasseSideMAXHKLO_VW37.rod
   VCID: 43D2B7721B1A8503BA1-8016

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:* 8V0-035-MIB-HGH2.clb
   Part No SW: 8V1 035 035 C    HW: 8V1 035 035 C
   Component: MU-P-LND-EU   055 1326 
   Serial number: A698E0KS042807
   Coding: 017361010000000011111102000A00332F0028E5017001009E
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS 001115
   ROD: EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS_VW37.rod
   VCID: 323CE2B6B4A03C8B217-8066

   Data carrier:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: V03 959 802 TK    HW: -----------
   Component: ECE 2021  --- 0189
   Serial number: --------------------

   Multimedia System 1:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 604 C    HW: 8V0 919 604 C
   Component: DU High  H49 0014
   Serial number: AUZ8Z9K1Y0J50X     

   Multimedia system control head:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 614 BK    HW: 8V0 919 614 BK
   Component: ControlUnit_H  H85 0855
   Serial number: ALJAL125021900050242

   Compact disc data bank:
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 EG    HW: -----------
   Component: Gracenote2  --- 1017
   Serial number: --------------------

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 4M0-907-273.clb
   Part No SW: 8S0 907 273     HW: 4M0 907 273 B
   Component: RDKHUFAU736   H06 0002 
   Serial number: 40000000013668
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKHUFAU736 002007
   ROD: EV_RDKHUFAU736_AU37.rod
   VCID: 77AA13A21F4219A3D69-8022

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 6C: Back-up Cam. (J772)       Labels:| 5Q0-980-556.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 980 556 B    HW: 5Q0 980 556 B
   Component: RVC Compact   H18 0231 
   Coding: 0273010102002001400040
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_CamSysRVRVCPANAMQBAB 006009
   ROD: EV_CamSysRVRVCPANAMQBAB_006_VW41.rod
   VCID: 392ED59A69D6CFD3E0D-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242)       Labels:| 3Q0-980-65X-A5.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 980 654 L    HW: 3Q0 980 654 A
   Component: MQB_B_MFK     H12 0610 
   Serial number: 17051915P13935
   Coding: 040307010000040101222346814EA90098000E20008000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschMQBB 002041
   ROD: EV_MFKBoschMQBB_002.rod
   VCID: 40D8B87E0A0C9E1BA73-8014

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869)       Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
   Part No SW: 8V0 907 159 B    HW: 81A 907 159 A
   Component: SAS-GEN 2.5   H08 0001 
   Serial number: 190422200018
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
   ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X.rod
   VCID: 3FDABB8277F2E1E3DE9-806A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address BB: Door Rear Drv (J388)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 8W1 959 395 D    HW: 8W1 959 395 D
   Component: TSG HFS004 0189 
   Serial number: YE007SE22499E
   Coding: 000C12204000008000001002
   Shop #: WSC 06325 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU2RearDriveMAXHKLO 001010
   ROD: EV_DCU2RearDriveMAXHKLO.rod
   VCID: 4CC09C4E36444A7B4BB-8018

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address BC: Door Rear Pass (J389)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 8W1 959 395 D    HW: 8W1 959 395 D
   Component: TSG HBFS004 0189 
   Serial number: YE007SE224777
   Coding: 000C12204000008000001002
   Shop #: WSC 06325 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU2RearPasseMAXHKLO 001010
   ROD: EV_DCU2RearPasseMAXHKLO.rod
   VCID: 4CC09C4E36444A7B4BB-8018

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address CF: Lane Chge Asst 2 (J770)       Labels:. 3Q0-907-566.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 590 H    HW: 3Q0 907 590
   Component: MRR1Rear      H25 0630 
   Revision: --------   
   Coding: 04C002
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RearRadarS2BoschVW48X 001007
   ROD: EV_RearRadarS2BoschVW48X_AU37.rod
   VCID: 3A2CCA966CD0C4CBE97-806E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address D6: Light Ctrl Left 2 (A31)       Labels: 7PP-941-592.clb
   Part No SW: 7PP 941 592 CB    HW: 7PP 941 592 C
   Component: LED1L         H10 2003 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LEDModLeftMELCOAU736 001004
   ROD: EV_LEDModLeftMELCOAU736_VW37.rod
   VCID: 1A6C2A16CC10E4CB097-804E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address D7: Light Ctrl Right 2 (A27)       Labels: 7PP-941-592.clb
   Part No SW: 7PP 941 592 CB    HW: 7PP 941 592 C
   Component: LED1R         H10 2003 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LEDModRightMELCOAU736 001004
   ROD: EV_LEDModLeftMELCOAU736_VW37.rod
   VCID: 1A6C2A16CC10E4CB097-804E

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:57, VBatt start/end: 13.0V/13.1V)-----------
 
Last edited by a moderator:
   #13  

Uwe

Benevolent Dictator
Administrator
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
48,925
Reaction score
33,653
Location
USA
VCDS Serial number
HC100001
OK, what do you have in the Gateway's Battery adaptation channels?

IDE03256-MAS06105 -- Battery adaptation - Rated battery capacity
IDE03256-MAS06106 -- Battery adaptation - Battery technology
IDE03256-MAS06107 -- Battery adaptation - Battery manufacturer
IDE03256-MAS06108 -- Battery adaptation - Battery Serial Number


-Uwe-
 
   #14  

RS3mike

Verified VCDS User
Verified
Joined
Aug 30, 2022
Messages
8
Reaction score
0
Location
Greece
VCDS Serial number
C?ID=402687
OK, what do you have in the Gateway's Battery adaptation channels?

IDE03256-MAS06105 -- Battery adaptation - Rated battery capacity - 85Ah
IDE03256-MAS06106 -- Battery adaptation - Battery technology - Lithium Ions
IDE03256-MAS06107 -- Battery adaptation - Battery manufacturer- LIT
IDE03256-MAS06108 -- Battery adaptation - Battery Serial Number - 1000000001
 
   #15  

Uwe

Benevolent Dictator
Administrator
Joined
Jan 29, 2014
Messages
48,925
Reaction score
33,653
Location
USA
VCDS Serial number
HC100001
I don't know what else you can do then. The strategy on these cars is to keep the battery less than full for the purpose of energy savings. See post #4.

13.1V isn't really all that low for a 4S LiFePO4 battery. That's 3.275 volts per cell, which is likely around 75% SoC:

Personally, I think you'll be fine running it that way. Maybe do a manual full charge every few months, but be careful not to exceed 14.6V.

-Uwe-
 
Back
Top