2020 VW T-Roc. No exterior lights when light switch is off.

[Scuderia Kanrell AB]

Hello,
I have a customer who wants me to tweak cars for them so that when the light controller is set to 0 it turns of all exterior lighting.
The cars are used by the police and security companies.
The cars are almost always new cars so the first cars I have looked at didn’t have that possibility yet or I didn’t find it.
Am I looking at the wrong place in VCDS or are they just to new?

Se attached the latest car they brought.
is it possible to do it in this one?

Best regards/
Tintin Kanrell
Scuderia Kanrell AB

Chassityp: A1-VW27 (3Q0)
Skanna: 01 02 03 08 09 10 13 15 17 18 19 22 42 44 4B 52 5F 75 A5 BB
          BC D6 D7

VIN: WVGZZZA1ZMV031133   Mätarställning: 139km

01-Motor -- Status: OK 0000
02-Automatväxel -- Status: OK 0000
03-Bromselektronik -- Status: Felfunktion 0010
08-Klimatanläggning -- Status: OK 0000
09-Elektron. elcentral -- Status: OK 0000
10-park/styr-hjälp -- Status: OK 0000
13-Distansreglering -- Status: OK 0000
15-Krockkuddar -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instrument -- Status: OK 0000
18-Extra/p-värmare -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
42-Dörrel. förare -- Status: OK 0000
44-Styrservo -- Status: OK 0000
4B-Flerfunktionsenhet -- Status: OK 0000
52-Dörrelektr. pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Elektr. -- Status: OK 0000
75-Larmmodul -- Status: Felfunktion 0010
A5-Främ sens för.hjälp -- Status: OK 0000
BB-bakre dörr förar -- Status: OK 0000
BC- bakre dörr pass -- Status: OK 0000
D6-Light Ctrl Vänster 2 -- Status: OK 0000
D7-Light Ctrl Höger 2 -- Status: OK 0000
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Adress 01: Motor (J623-DKZA)       Labels: saknas
   Artikelnr SW: 81A 907 115 A    HW: 06K 907 309 B
   Komponent: R4 2.0l TFSI  H61 0002  
   Revision: O1H61000    
   Kodning: 0125401A2466050B24000000000000000000000000000000
   Verkstad #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS01181A907115A 001004
   ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0112G0907115A_VW27.rod
   VCID: 2208E8E03553C99624-8076

Ingen felkod funnen.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Adress 02: Automatväxel (J743)       Labels:. AER\0BH-927-711.clb
   Artikelnr SW: 0GC 300 013 T    HW: 0GC 927 711 H
   Komponent: GSG DQ381     H06 2809  
   Revision: 00H06V11    
   Kodning: 0014
   Verkstad #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ381061 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ381061.rod
   VCID: 352223BC94DD4E2EF1-8060

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 03: Bromselektronik (J104)       Labels: saknas
   Artikelnr SW: 5Q0 614 517 GB    HW: 5Q0 614 517 BP
   Komponent: ESC           H35 0114  
   Revision: 00000000    Serienummer: 62620000000635
   Kodning: 46FA6A7DA023246D4778070362C62962560524E2E046947538425078D22A4B0B00400523525212121035351919323200
   Verkstad #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 049015
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_049_VW27.rod
   VCID: 77BEE9B4CE517C3E23-8022

1 fel funnet:
0202 - Backväxel info. 
          C109E 29 [008] - orimlig signal
          [no valid Reverse Gear Switch signal received via CAN]
          Intermittent fel - Bekräftad - Testad efter att minnet rensats
             frysta data:
                    Felstatus: 00000001
                    Felprioritet: 3
                    Felfrekvens: 1
                    Reset-räknare: 40
                    Mätarställning: 14 km
                    Datum: 2020.11.03
                    Tid: 11:08:27


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Adress 08: Klimatanläggning (J255)       Labels:| AER\5G0-907-044.clb
   Artikelnr SW: 5G0 907 044 GA    HW: 5G0 907 044 GA
   Komponent: Climatronic   H04 2402  
   Revision: 00001K10    
   Kodning: 060200042041110D1105000000101032
   Verkstad #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 006151
   ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_006_VW27.rod
   VCID: 6C94C6D88717CFE6DE-8038

   Styrdon för friskluftsfläkt (fram): 

   Geber für Kältemitteldruck/Kältemitteltemperatur: 

   Sensor för luftkvalitet: 

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 09: Elektron. elcentral (J519)       Labels: saknas
   Artikelnr SW: 5Q0 937 084 DP    HW: 5Q0 937 084 DP
   Komponent: BCM MQBAB M+  H42 0411  
   Serienummer: 01102025801208
   Kodning: 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
   Verkstad #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMMQB 021001
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_021.rod
   VCID: 095A9F4CA8A57ACE45-805C

   regn- och ljussensor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Artikelnr SW: 5Q0 955 547 C    HW: 5Q0 955 547 C  Labels: AER\5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Komponent: RLHS  054 0206 
   Serienummer: SBY20M09D11H11M47S00
   Kodning: 0018DD

   Rattomkopplare: 
   Subsystem 2 - Artikelnr SW: 5Q1 953 521     HW: 5Q1 953 569 
   Komponent: Lenks.Modul  H03 0170 
   Serienummer: 0100010420200C104777

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 10: park/styr-hjälp (J446)       Labels:| AER\5Q0-919-294.clb
   Artikelnr SW: 5QA 919 294 J    HW: 5QA 919 294 
   Komponent: PDC 8 Kanal   H08 0073  
   Serienummer: 000150058320268
   Kodning: 8471051811
   Verkstad #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 009053
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_009_VW27.rod
   VCID: 53E67D243A69701EFF-8006

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 13: Distansreglering (J428)       Labels:| AER\2Q0-907-572.clb
   Artikelnr SW: 2Q0 907 572 T    HW: 2Q0 907 572 B
   Komponent: ACCCONTIMQB   H03 0383  
   Kodning: 320467C218FF8748949C810580408700000000000000000004
   Verkstad #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCMRRCONTIVW376 003018
   ROD: EV_ACCMRRCONTIVW376_003_VW27.rod
   VCID: 45C2537CC43DDEAE61-8010

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 15: Krockkuddar (J234)       Labels:| AER\5Q0-959-655.clb
   Artikelnr SW: 5Q0 959 655 BT    HW: 5Q0 959 655 BT
   Komponent: AirbagVW21    008 0403  
   Serienummer: 003FNR6KLDBA
   Kodning: 88CCC0C0000000005C5400CF004800000065
   Verkstad #: WSC 00020 043 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002164
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW27.rod
   VCID: 1366BD24FAE9B01EBF-8046

   Bältessträckare vänster: 
   Subsystem 1 - Artikelnr SW: 4M0 980 945 A    HW: 4M0 980 945 A
   Komponent: BeltPretRevFL  106 1040 
   Serienummer: 2GA857705B0263U00150
   Kodning: 80000D

   Bältessträckare höger: 
   Subsystem 2 - Artikelnr SW: 4M0 980 946 A    HW: 4M0 980 946 A
   Komponent: BeltPretRevFR  106 1040 
   Serienummer: 2GA857706B0265U00910
   Kodning: 80000D

   krocksensor för sidoairbag på förarsidan: 
   Subsystem 3 - Artikelnr SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 509 20
   Komponent: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
   Serienummer: 35700000000910FCFA4 
   Kodning: 2D2D2D

   krocksensor för sidoairbag på passagerarsidan: 
   Subsystem 4 - Artikelnr SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 509 20
   Komponent: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
   Serienummer: 35800000000DC3C0CA4$
   Kodning: 2D2D2D

   krocksensor för sidoairbag bak på förarsidan: 
   Subsystem 5 - Artikelnr SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 809 20
   Komponent: SideSensor_Dr  004 6149 
   Serienummer: 35100010862F6DC643CB
   Kodning: 2D2D2D

   Krocksensor för sidoairbag bak: passagerarsidan: 
   Subsystem 6 - Artikelnr SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 709 20
   Komponent: SideSensor_Pr  004 6149 
   Serienummer: 352000106630544322CF
   Kodning: 2D2D2D

   krocksensor för airbag fram på förarsidan: 
   Subsystem 7 - Artikelnr SW: -----------    HW: 480 403 108 20
   Komponent: FrontSensor_D  004 6149 
   Serienummer: 35500012C6380025459R
   Kodning: 2D2D2D

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 17: Instrument (J285)       Labels:* saknas-SRI3
   Artikelnr SW: 17A 920 320 A    HW: 17A 920 320 A
   Komponent: KOMBI         502 5175  
   Kodning: 05A40008EF800008018862031000000000600706
   Verkstad #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBA0 001044
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBA0_VW27.rod
   VCID: 1A78D0001D038156FC-804E

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 18: Extra/p-värmare (J364)       Labels:* saknas
   Artikelnr SW: 5WA 963 272     HW: 5WA 963 272 
   Komponent: STH-VW37x     006 0010  
   Serienummer: 000000000000034
   Kodning: 250B155A5C25152CE44D18
   Verkstad #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AuxilHeateWOSVW38X 001009
   ROD: EV_AuxilHeateWOSVW38X_VW27.rod
   VCID: 0A58A040ADA371D64C-805E

   Fjärrkontroll parkeringsvärmare: 

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| AER\3Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Artikelnr SW: 3Q0 907 530 AG    HW: 3Q0 907 530 C
   Komponent: GW MQB High   442 4424  
   Revision: --------    Serienummer: 0001140628
   Kodning: 030500046F085900FB13225C1A0F00010001070000000000000000000000
   Verkstad #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewNF 013026
   ROD: EV_GatewNF_VW27.rod
   VCID: 74A4DEB8DF27172606-8020

   Generator: 
   Komponent: 4-01-13-01-04  

   Styrdon för multifunktionsratt: 
   Subsystem 2 - Artikelnr SW: 5G0 959 442 AE    HW: 5G0 959 442 AE  Labels: AER\3C8-959-537.CLB
   Komponent: E221__MFL-MD9  H12 0052 
   Serienummer: 36200000813930020322
   Kodning: 2DFFFF

   Styrdon för batteriövervakning: 
   Subsystem 3 - Artikelnr SW: 5Q0 915 181 K    HW: 5Q0 915 181 K
   Komponent: J367-BDMHella  H11 9070 
   Serienummer: 3226325405          

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 22: AWD (-----)       Labels:* saknas
   Artikelnr SW: 5WA 907 554 P    HW: 5WA 525 130 
   Komponent: 4Motion       H65 0724  
   Serienummer: HA1-00031.08.20
   Kodning: 0001
   Verkstad #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 005001
   ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X_005_VW27.rod
   VCID: 5BF6950452B9B85E27-800E

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 42: Dörrel. förare (J386)       Labels:* saknas
   Artikelnr SW: 5Q4 959 593 N    HW: 5Q4 959 593 N
   Komponent: TSG FS        010 0820  
   Serienummer: 0000420202489 
   Kodning: 003A03208000028000001000
   Verkstad #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU2DriveSideMAXHCONT 001005
   ROD: EV_DCU2DriveSideMAXHCONT_VW27.rod
   VCID: 50EC72280B7F0B06C2-8004

   Dörrstyrdon förarsidan bak: 
   Subsystem 1 - Artikelnr SW: 5Q0 959 407 D    HW: 5Q0 959 163 C
   Komponent: FOND_FHSG_DRV  007 0011 
   Serienummer: 00000000000043711831
   Kodning: 010000

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 44: Styrservo (J500)       Labels:| AER\5Q0-909-144.clb
   Artikelnr SW: 5Q0 909 144 AB    HW: 5Q0 909 144 AA
   Komponent: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  131 1082  
   Kodning: 951F0000
   Verkstad #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 015157
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_015.rod
   VCID: 74A4DEB8DF27172606-8020

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 4B: Flerfunktionsenhet (J745)       Labels:| AER\3Q0-907-338-V2.clb
   Artikelnr SW: 3Q0 907 338 E    HW: 3Q0 907 338 E
   Komponent: FCM MQB Low   003 0367  
   Serienummer: 14092010803404
   Kodning: 000000070900204A00000900000000000000000000000000000000000000
   Verkstad #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MultiModulContiVW48X 003003
   ROD: EV_MultiModulContiVW48X_003_VW27.rod
   VCID: 373E29B48ED1BC3EE3-8062

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 52: Dörrelektr. pass. (J387)       Labels:* saknas
   Artikelnr SW: 5Q4 959 592 N    HW: 5Q4 959 592 N
   Komponent: TSG BFS       010 0820  
   Serienummer: 0000420699820 
   Kodning: 003A01208000028000001000
   Verkstad #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU2PasseSideMAXHCONT 001005
   ROD: EV_DCU2PasseSideMAXHCONT_VW27.rod
   VCID: 4FEE7154164114FEDB-801A

   Dörrstyrdon passagerarsidan bak: 
   Subsystem 1 - Artikelnr SW: 5Q0 959 408 D    HW: 5Q0 959 164 C
   Komponent: FOND_FHSG_PSG  007 0011 
   Serienummer: 00000000000043654959
   Kodning: 190000

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 5F: Information Elektr. (J794)       Labels:* saknas
   Artikelnr SW: 3G5 035 820 B    HW: 3G5 035 820 B
   Komponent: MU-O-ND-EU    H22 0270  
   Serienummer: VWZAZ2X0776621 
   Kodning: 22760000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUOIMQB 001001
   ROD: EV_MUOIMQB_VW27.rod
   VCID: 2306EDE42A49C09E2F-8076

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 75: Larmmodul (J949)       Labels:* saknas
   Artikelnr SW: 5WA 035 284 B    HW: 5WA 035 284 B
   Komponent: OCUGen3High   H20 0035  
   Serienummer: 0000000009VIVR4
   Kodning: 022760001968A8209025460161002607
   ASAM Dataset: EV_OCUGen3High 003005
   ROD: EV_OCUGen3High_003_VW27.rod
   VCID: 45C2537CC43DDEAE61-8010

1 fel funnet:
1644017 - Online-tjänster 
          B1915 F1 [008] - Tillfälligt nedsatt funktion på grund av batteribudgeten
          [Functional restriction due to insufficient power budget]
          Intermittent fel - Bekräftad - Testad efter att minnet rensats
             frysta data:
                    Felstatus: 00000001
                    Felprioritet: 6
                    Felfrekvens: 1
                    Reset-räknare: 37
                    Mätarställning: 14 km
                    Datum: 2020.11.03
                    Tid: 11:09:27

                    Spänning klämma 30: 12.5 V
                    Återstående långtid energibudget: 2613 mAh
                    Återstående korttid energibudget: 2 mAh
                    Räknare väckningsförlopp: 62


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Adress A5: Främ sens för.hjälp (R242)       Labels:| AER\3Q0-980-65X-A5.clb
   Artikelnr SW: 3Q0 980 654 L    HW: 3Q0 980 654 A
   Komponent: MQB_B_MFK     H14 0610  
   Serienummer: 17092012K13003
   Kodning: 0002070600000401002213448140A90084000E20000000
   Verkstad #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschMQBB 002041
   ROD: EV_MFKBoschMQBB_002.rod
   VCID: 40CC4268DB1FFB8652-8014

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress BB: bakre dörr förar
Kan ej nås

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Adress BC:  bakre dörr pass
Kan ej nås

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Adress D6: Light Ctrl Vänster 2 (A31)       Labels: AER\7P5-941-591.clb
   Artikelnr SW: 7P5 941 591 AJ    HW: 7P5 941 591 A
   Komponent: LED1L         H07 0011  
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LED_PLUS_L_KEBODAVW416 001003
   ROD: EV_LED_PLUS_L_KEBODAVW416_VW27.rod
   VCID: 04448E788F8727A636-8050

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress D7: Light Ctrl Höger 2 (A27)       Labels: AER\7P5-941-591.clb
   Artikelnr SW: 7P5 941 591 AJ    HW: 7P5 941 591 A
   Komponent: LED1R         H07 0011  
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LED_PLUS_R_KEBODAVW416 001003
   ROD: EV_LED_PLUS_L_KEBODAVW416_VW27.rod
   VCID: 04448E788F8727A636-8050

Ingen felkod funnen.

Slut--------(Förfluten tid: 01:47, Vbatt start/stopp: 12.9V/12.9V)---------

 

[TBAx]

It's just one adaption channel inside the BCM:
ENG141647-ENG115734-Außenlicht_Front-Tagfahrlicht nur in Schalterstellung AUTO -> set to active

 

[Scuderia Kanrell AB]

Hello,
Sorry for a late reply.
The tweak worked super. I also managed to disable the light confirmation when locking/unlocking the car.
very thankful for the help!
I then stumbled in to the access code that I could find here on Ross tech.
I guess that it was just luck that the second code I tried worked (31347) and I’m afraid to not have the same luck in the future.
So now I wonder if it’s possible to know in advance what code there is on a car?
My customer will keep coming with cars that need tweaks like this so I would like to be more sure to not be stopped by this access code.

VCDS says that this code is found in the Tech literature so I have talked to the VW tech support in Sweden but they don’t know what it is.
He said that it’s possibly something that ODIS does automatically without the user knowing it.

Best regards/
Tintin Kanrell
Scuderia Kanrell AB

 

[DV52]

So now I wonder if it’s possible to know in advance what code there is on a car?
My customer will keep coming with cars that need tweaks like this so I would like to be more sure to not be stopped by this access code.

VCDS says that this code is found in the Tech literature so I have talked to the VW tech support in Sweden but they don’t know what it is.
He said that it’s possibly something that ODIS does automatically without the user knowing it.

Best regards/
Tintin Kanrell
Scuderia Kanrell AB

Tintin: Hi
It really depends on the type of car that your customer brings into the workshop; SA s are specific to the type of module installed in the vehicle, so the car model and build year are important determinants of the security code.

Sometimes VCDS will suggest security code values. These generally are correct and should be used as the first try - IMO.

For the vehicle in your scan above and because it is built on MQB platform, there are a bunch of SA s that can be found here - but this is by no means a complete set.

Of course for other cars, the access codes will be different and I suggest that Mr Google is your friend in these cases. Security codes are a propriety aspect of VAG's suite of information; these codes are not published in the public domain, so you won't find a comprehensive list of numbers on the net, or on any VAG literature (that's accessible outside VAG HQ).

Those codes that are known have trickled into the public arena by various means over the years by the rare few that have such knowledge and codes for new modules are as rare as rocking horse shit!!

Don

PS: I assume that you are aware that control modules easily get cranky if you attempt to enter an incorrect SA; the module will lock-out for a period of time that counts-down with the ignition switched-on.

 

[Scuderia Kanrell AB]

Hello Don,

Thankyou for your interest.
So the SA is connected to the artnr?
But the risk is that when there is a new generation of component in the car, it can take a couple of months before someone has leaked.
That’s not good for me, The cars are always factory new

But if they aren’t random they should be possible to find at VW.
I just need to talk to the right person.

 

[PetrolDave]

But if they aren’t random they should be possible to find at VW.
I just need to talk to the right person.

Good luck with that, many many people have tried and the VAG community us still having to rely on owners experimenting to find SA codes.

VAG used to publish SA codes in their repair documentation but they stopped that some time back.

 

[Dana]

Thanks guys. I think I want to tweak ENG141647-ENG115734 in my e-Golf. I don't like things being on unnecessarily (since it doesn't have an engine) while sitting but do like DRLs while driving with the switch in Auto position.

In the meanwhile I added this BCM to the redirect so the next VCDS update should load a label file with the needed SA code.

 

[DV52]

Thanks guys. I think I want to tweak ENG141647-ENG115734 in my e-Golf. I don't like things being on unnecessarily (since it doesn't have an engine) while sitting but do like DRLs while driving with the switch in Auto position.

Dana: "ENG141647-ENG115734"? Isn't this is the switch that disables DRLs except when the LDS is in the AUTO position? Don't you normally drive with the LDS in this position? Or do you enjoy always having to manually switch-on the headlights at dusk and not using CH/LH?

How about using ENG141647-ENG116594 instead? This lets you enable/disable DRL function from the MENU - at least then you can enjoy the benefits of the AUTO position and still have easy control of DRL function!!

And to complete the general philosophy, perhaps even activate ENG141647-ENG122184 - so you are not wasting valuable battery energy on DRLs when the handbrake is on- maybe?

Don

 

[Dana]

@DV52 Thanks for the ideas. I manually switch the headlight switch so I'm in control of the CH/LH and headlights and my husband is the exact opposite. Heater on, heated seat on, bike on the roof, Auto headlights, etc. If it had a heated steering wheel that would be on as well.

So, I'm the micromanager of every kWh pumped into and sucked out of the car .. and he uses it like a (normal) Golf. I hadn't given ENG141647-ENG116594 a thought so I'll experiment with both.

ENG141647-ENG122184 was on by default but ... I think turning on the EPB may use more juice than just leaving the DRLs on while I wait for him to pop into and out of a store? Opening the driver's door just shuts the entire car down shortly after (like start-stop) so this is a non issue if the driver exits.

Thanks again.