Passat B6 Mirror dip (mirror down) without memory seats DTC - Implausible Signal - Position Sensor for Mirror Adjustment

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nateo83

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I've retrofitted power-folding mirrors and also on the right passenger side a mirror with memory, however I only have a power adjustable driver's seat without memory. It's been documented in a few places that in certain post (2008 I believe) Passats and MK5's that you can have mirror dip or mirror down in reverse gear if you have a memory module in the mirror.

I coded: 46 - Convenience Module-> Long Coding Helper->Byte 14 -> Bit 7
52-Door Elec. Passenger -> Long Coding Helper -> Byte 1 -> =Bit 0 (note VCDS in the non-experimental coder for 52 says this is with or without seat memory)


I've operated my car with this for some time and it's worked fairly consistently, although I have found some issues where I need to reset the down and also the normal operating point periodically. However recently I now get an intermittent implausible signal - Position Sensor for Mirror Adjustment DTC as below.

I found that if I went into the MFI menu, turned off mirror down when reversing, then uncoded the door module as well as the convenience module, then turned it all back on, it disappeared. I was then able to operate it successfully, setting the down and the up position... until I put the car in reverse, then back into neutral, and let the car sit. Then the car just left the mirror in the down position and threw this DTC. WIth this DTC, the mirror down position seems to work ok, only sometimes, the mirror tends to move in reverse as well.

I've found some discussion on this exact issue on other forums - specifically odbeleven (apologies if I should not mention that here), and it seems like there is a coding tweak somehow to fix it. I'd really like to get this working properly if possible, hoping someone has seen this before? I mean, is there some other way to reset it, do I need to operate it through the whole range, etc.?


1 Fault Found:
66821 - Position Sensor for Mirror Adjustment
B11FA 29 [008] - Signal Implausible
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 202
Mileage: 171435 km
Date: 2020.11.04
Time: 23:14:57

AUTOSCAN:
Code:
Wednesday,04,November,2020,23:25:20:08140
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20200730 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWNK73C09E096517   License Plate:
Mileage: 171430km-106521mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 3C-VW46 (3C0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 53 55 56 62 6D 72
        

VIN: WVWNK73C09E096517   Mileage: 171430km-106521miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Not registered 0011
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (CCT)       Labels:. 06J-906-026-CCT.clb
   Part No SW: 06J 906 026 AF    HW: 06J 906 026 AF
   Component: MED17.5 TFSI 2,0    3318 
   Revision: AAH03---    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 0404010A18070160
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 6E85C81A8C96F9BBB0F-803A

1 Fault Found:
006481 - Radiator Fan 2 (V177)
               P1951 - 000 - Movement Restricted / Jammed - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 171155 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.03.28
                    Time: 14:37:49

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 90.0°C
                    Temperature: 48.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 960.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 12.446 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels:. 3C0-614-109-C4.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 614 109 AJ    HW: 3C0 614 109 T
   Component: J104    C4 440 V2   0016 
   Revision: --025---    Serial number: 00000786422456
   Coding: 0002421
   Shop #: WSC 00017 666 02327
   VCID: 6695B03AA46631FBC8F-8032

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 JE    HW: 1K0 820 047 JE
   Component: Climatic PQ35   143 1313 
   Revision: 00143033    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 70B9D66296A2EF4BA23-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E    HW: 3C8 937 049 E
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602 
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000009135800
   Coding: 8F8C8F2700041A00870000630F000000005B3F4D00401120000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 05124 123 12345
   VCID: 3333196EA73494539F1-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C1 955 419 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 031008 004  0206 
   Coding: 00046997
   Shop #: WSC 05124 

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 M    HW: 8E0 035 593 M
   Component: SDAR SIRIUS     H07 0150 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7H0476922
   Coding: 0000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3333196EA73494539F1-8066

2 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101110
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 250
                    Mileage: 144245 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2011.08.15
                    Time: 19:20:57

02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 82
                    Mileage: 170731 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.03.28
                    Time: 16:32:37


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655     HW: 5N0 959 655
   Component: J234__003 VW10 HI   1815 
   Revision: 19013000    Serial number: 0039BPQ7V11S 
   Coding: 0012339
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 7AADF44AC0DEA51B1C7-802E

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6333FTS611243198

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6343FTS645622908

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6353ETS6FOA0V5KJ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6363ETS6OU4VVVNR

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6374CTS6H9JQVVNR

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 6384CTS6TRF1V5KR

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 3C0-953-549-SW25.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 953 549 AJ    HW: 3C0 953 549 AJ
   Component: J0527               0030 
   Revision: 00032000    Serial number: 3C5953507CN  
   Coding: 0000712
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 74B1DA72E2BAD36B46B-8020

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C8 959 537 B  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAP   H4ÿ 0021 
   Coding: 00000226
   Shop #: WSC 00000 

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 3C0 920 871 R    HW: 3C0 920 871 R
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0107 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 360D00
   Shop #: WSC 05314 115 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04040
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW46.rod
   VCID: 3333196EABB494539F1-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 3C0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 530 L    HW: 3C0 907 951
   Component: J533__Gateway   H13 0152 
   Revision:   H13       Serial number: 3300P08C05031F
   Coding: F9817F06020202002002
   Shop #: WSC 05314 123 12345
   VCID: 2A0D040A70FED59B2C7-807E

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 162
                    Mileage: 171435 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.03.28
                    Time: 23:19:14


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 AT    HW: 3C0 959 433 AT
   Component:    IMMO         042 0383 
   Revision: 00042000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 7CA1F252CAEA9B2B0EB-8028

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 J
   Component:    ELV          029 0380
   3C0905861J     ELV          029 0380  

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 701 A    HW: 3C0 959 793 C
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0533 
   Revision: 12110009    Serial number: 0007371858
   Coding: 0010F7
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 35372776A5C08A63B15-8060

   Slave Driver:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AD    HW: 1K0 959 795 P
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  004 0307
   Serial number: 00000000707439     
   Coding: 0004D0

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 J    HW: 5N1 909 148 F
   Component: J500__APA-BS KL.081 0502 
   Revision: 1AH02240    Serial number: 00083290202402
   Coding: 0000258
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 392F2B4685586E0355D-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 3C0-959-433-46.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 AT    HW: 3C0 959 433 AT
   Component:    KSG PQ46 ELV 042 0612 
   Revision: 00042000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 13900E80D10304767604141FF08A8F0E087C41
   Shop #: WSC 94718 999 15553
   VCID: 7CA1F252CAEA9B2B0EB-8028

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted    

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted    

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted    

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 702 A    HW: 3C0 959 792 C
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0533 
   Revision: 14110009    Serial number: 0003568599
   Coding: 0011F6
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3635207AB8C6817BB8F-8062

   Slave Passenger:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AD    HW: 1K0 959 794 P
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  004 0307
   Serial number: 00000000727654     
   Coding: 0004D0

1 Fault Found:
66821 - Position Sensor for Mirror Adjustment
          B11FA 29 [008] - Signal Implausible
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 202
                    Mileage: 171435 km
                    Date: 2020.11.04
                    Time: 23:14:57


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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 5N0-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 907 801 A    HW: 3C8 907 801 A
   Component: J540 EPB3  VW-10498 0003 
   Revision:   009       Serial number: 00000000208591
   Coding: 0000057
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 2809FE026EF2E78B3A3-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C    HW: 5M0 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0136 
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:              
   Coding: 2323457
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 34311A72A23A936B86B-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 A  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0004 
   Coding: 00000035

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 A  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    0004 
   Coding: 00000035

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 B    HW: 6RD 035 187 B
   Component: Radio         541 5406 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: VWZZZ4J6253087
   Coding: 16000440010005
   Shop #: WSC 127395 840 08317
   VCID: 46D550BAC8A611FB28F-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect.        Labels: 3C9-827-383.clb
   Part No SW: 3C9 827 383 B    HW: 3C9 827 383 E
   Component: J605  HECKDECKEL    0600 
   Revision: 00H27001   
   Shop #: WSC 23250 384 715754
   VCID: 303916625622AF4BE23-8064

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C9 827 384 B
   Component: J756  HECKDECKEL    0600

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 0800H27001001B0050ÿ

1 Fault Found:
00317 - Rear Lid Control Module (J605)
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 201
                    Mileage: 171431 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.03.28
                    Time: 15:15:45


End----(Elapsed Time: 01:28, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/12.0V. VIgn 12.0V)-----

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Address 19,3C0 907 530 L,recoded (Installation List),from,F9817F06020202002002,to,F9817F06020302002002,,
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Address 19: DTCs cleared
 
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I don't know what coding tweak you mentioned, to me it seems there's something wrong with the mirror motor. I would start checking there. Sorry for not being more helpful.
 
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