2013 Jetta TDI, Troubleshooting Glow Plugs

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I've got an issue with the whole glow plug system on on my 2013 Jetta Sedan TDI.

Completely stock as far as I know. I have owned the car for the last 2.5 years.

I am starting to experience cold weather (below freezing) overnight and I am now having an issue starting the car. I pushed the car into my garage so I could work on it in warmth and a day later it started (really hard though).

Steps I have taken so far:
  • Edit #2: when I try starting the car it does not crank. It just just gives an initial "er" and then nothing,
  • put the charger on the battery for 6 hours,
  • put booster cables on from my truck for 15 mins and then tried starting car with booster cables still attached and truck running,
  • checked voltage across my battery and it was about 12.4v,
  • at this point I eliminated the starter and solenoid from my search because the car started in the garage,
  • pulled the glow plug wires off all plugs and measured the voltage from the battery to each of the plugs and I am reading about 12.4v on all 4 of them,
  • Edit #1: checked fuses under the hood and the ones I think were for the glow plugs & starting system were good. They were 50 amp fuses and I checked 2 of them,
  • Once I completed the auto scan I saw in the results that it isolated the cylinder #2 glow plug so I went back to verify that the wire had been firmly affixed to the glow plug during the scan and it had been.
That's pretty much all I've done aside from kicking the tire at one point (which was not helpful).

Why would the car be reading the cylinder #2 glow plug in this instance? Am I reading the auto scan correctly? Could this somehow be a function of the cylinder #2 glow plug wire and how would I check that wire? In my research I have read about a glow plug relay/module but I can't find it on my specific car (I have pulled the battery and the battery tray to check under the fuse box but the CPU is in the way and I don't see it anywhere in that vicinity).

If anyone can help me I would be so appreciative.

Here is my scan:

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Monday,26,October,2020,16:41:56:15900
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VIN: 3VWLL7AJ7DM369930   License Plate:


Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 17 19 25 2B 2E 37 44 47 56

VIN: 3VWLL7AJ7DM369930   Mileage: 158820km-98686miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (CJA)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CBE.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 997 030 M    HW: 03L 907 309 AA
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI G000AG  9983
   Revision: 12H15---    Serial number:             
   Coding: 0050078
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 382928862E506A0BAA3-806C

3 Faults Found:
001734 - Cylinder 2 Glow Plug
               P06C6 - 000 - Incorrect Installation - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 157659 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.02.08
                    Time: 17:27:24

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1012 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Voltage: 14.06 V
                    Temperature: 15.3°C
                    Bin. Bits: 10110000
                    Time: 2.52 s
                    Temperature: 15.3°C

001384 - Cruise Control Switch (E45)
               P0568 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 158824 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.03.19
                    Time: 12:58:01

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    (no units): 255.0
                    (no units): 255.0
                    Bin. Bits: 11000001

000801 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28)
               P0321 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 158824 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.03.19
                    Time: 12:58:01

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Voltage: 11.70 V
                    Temperature: 9.9°C
                    Idle Stabilization: 0.0°KW
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    (no units): 1.0

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 062 B    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     512 9430
   Revision: 05551213    Serial number: 00001206202205
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 1471BC3652786E6BE6B-8040

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL    HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152
   Revision: 00H31001 
   Coding: B14B400C492800038D1402E792190042211000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 7DA7F9924DF28F23395-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 B    HW: 5K0 959 434
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 085 0902
   Revision: 00085000    Serial number: 0176150223
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02013
   ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G_A02_VW31.rod
   VCID: 34311CB63EB88E6B86B-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 5C0-820-047.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 820 047 BA    HW: 5C0 820 047 BA
   Component: J301  Klimaanlage   0204
   Revision: 2001012S    Serial number: 00000001126627
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 6099A0E6D64042CB323-8034

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 937 087 E    HW: 5C0 937 087 A
   Component: BCM25 JLB H3  H66 0257
   Revision: B2066001    Serial number: 04371151120214
   Coding: 7B994BBA08210F0008382000240884C50082502E6020000030A000000000
   Shop #: WSC 49042 002 104857
   VCID: 2F3B13DAD71EADB3FB9-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AF    HW: 6R0 959 801 AF  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  004 3465
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AF    HW: 6R0 959 802 AF  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  004 3465
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 591     HW: 5K0 959 591
   Component: J245 PS41.022  H10 0007
   Serial number:     WRH0005YS5%   
   Coding: 180000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 A    HW: 5K0 959 542 A
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H09 0013
   Serial number: 0427027           
   Coding: 020000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 H    HW: 6R0 959 811 H
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  004 3464
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 800000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 H    HW: 6R0 959 812 H
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  004 3464
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 800000

1 Fault Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 13
                    Reset counter: 89
                    Mileage: 158824 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.03.09
                    Time: 18:28:31


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 E    HW: 5C0 959 655 E
   Component: AirbagVW10G   014 0808
   Serial number: 003GTM07M9E-
   Coding: 00003936
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01023
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 34311CB63EB88E6B86B-8060

   Seat occupied recognition:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B    HW: 5C6 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0046
   Serial number: 6940000Y120000HWZP0-
   Coding: 303042

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ----
   Serial number: 3572MSME53180369ZZZS

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ----
   Serial number: 3582MSME2C13416EZZZ.

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ----
   Serial number: 3516KSME17742F1DZZZ$

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ----
   Serial number: 3526KSME23141B1DZZZQ

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Fahr  H02 ----
   Serial number: 3556LSME080F561CZZZ+

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Beif  H02 ----
   Serial number: 3566LSME7825561CZZZ+

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5C6 920 852 A    HW: 5C6 920 852 A
   Component: KOMBI         H06 0705
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 370C00
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00122
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 290FFDC2E97AC38325D-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 5C0 937 087 A
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H66 0257
   Revision: B2066001 
   Coding: 102200
   Shop #: WSC 49042 002 104857
   VCID: 70B9D0A60AA0F24BA23-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H06 0705
   Serial number:             
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00122
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW31.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC2CE2CFC089BEC7-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:* 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 B    HW: 5K0 905 861 B
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H20 0240
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 12000161542003
   Coding: 4900000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X_VW31.rod
   VCID: 2F3B13DAD79EADB3FB9-807A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 F    HW: 5N0 035 342 F
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H18 0530
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7662866711 
   Coding: 020100
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 2A0D02CEECFCC89B2C7-807E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels:| 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 274 D    HW: 1K0 035 274 D
   Component: RNS315-NAR    H53 0319
   Serial number: VWZAZ2M4266006
   Coding: 04090041010006000000100A
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315NARV2UDS 001705
   ROD: EV_RNS315NARV2UDS.rod
   VCID: 2517F1F28562E7E3015-8070

   Data medium:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 B
   Component: NAR_V3_(0037)  0037

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3305
   Revision: 00H22000 
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 372B2BBA234E6573A39-8062

1 Fault Found:
03803 - Steering Angle Sensor for Steering Aid
            000 - - - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Battery Volts: 12.2 V
                        PD
                    Temperature: 12.0°C
                    Count: 2
                    Steering Angle: 0.00°
                    Count: 0
                        SteerAng n.Init


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 5C6 035 456     HW: 5C6 035 456
   Component: KonzernAmp10K H07 0468
   Revision: --------    Serial number: EAA083A0061883
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3 S01001
   ROD: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3_VW32.rod
   VCID: 6597B1F2C5E227E3C15-8030

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:27, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/12.0V. VIgn 12.0V)-----
 
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Faulty G28 will stop it starting.
I would love to fix my G28!
What is a G28?
Seriously. Thank you for responding. Is there any clarification you could give me on that statement. I will certainly look into anything at this point.
 
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I would love to fix my G28!
What is a G28?
Seriously. Thank you for responding. Is there any clarification you could give me on that statement. I will certainly look into anything at this point.
Hold on, I see what you mean. That is the fault code. I am catching on.
I am just reading up on it online. I will get to the bottom of it. Thanks Raptor.
 
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The G28 is the Engine Speed Sensor (G28). If the sensor is not sending information that the engine is turning, the fuel will not be applied to the engine. No turning (as the computer is seeing no turning) means the engine cannot take fuel.

You need to go to erWin.VW and get wiring diagrams and such. The problem may be a bad sensor or a bad connection.
 
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If it's not cranking then you need to be looking at why it's not cranking! G28 generally does not send a signal unless the engine is turning!:)
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Excellent. Thank you for this help everyone. I did a bit of research last night and I also applied for a 1 day subscription to erWin last night too. I will troubleshoot the engine speed sensor this weekend and let you know what I find out.
 
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2013 Jetta Sedan TDI.
VIN: 3VWLL7AJ7DM369930 Mileage: 158820km-98686miles

A fresh battery might be a consideration & since your responsibility to maintain?

Extended warranty on glow plugs is in play here right & if you end up having an issue with them or the G28 or any other MIL related issue beside stipulation, which seems is odd of "trans" to OBD2 even in Canada, however, you knew that right? :rolleyes:



For the collective:

TDI's warranty in CANADA.


TDI
Extended Emissions Warranty Information

If you are a current owner or lessee of an affected 2.0-litre or 3.0-litre TDI vehicle and an authorized dealer in Canada has completed the Approved Emissions Modification (AEM) for your vehicle, you will receive an extended emissions warranty.
Please select your vehicle model and year from the list for additional details about the extended emissions warranty coverage If you do not see your vehicle on the list, an AEM is not currently approved by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for your vehicle. Extended emissions warranty coverage is available only for vehicles that receive an AEM approved by the EPA.
Recall notices will be mailed to affected owners and lessees when an EPA-approved AEM launches in Canada and can be received free of charge from authorized dealerships.
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