Son's 2000 golf MK4 immobilizer activated

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Hello Group,

I have this issue with my son's car , it started when he let the battery completely die several times. I have got the pin using a VAG-TACHO cable and am having trouble getting access to recode keys with my VAGCOM cable no matter what I try it won't let me access with code from vag-tacho any ideas, Thanks for your time I have only spent weeks on this issue so far,
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Tuesday,13,October,2020,19:22:46:63831
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
VCDS Version: 20.4.2.0
Data version: 20200730 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com




Chassis Type: 1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
          76
 
   Mileage: 212790km-132221miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-018-AEG.lbl
   Part No: 06A 906 018 JJ
   Component: 2.0l R4/2V  MOTR AT V01 
   Coding: 00033
   Shop #: WSC 26002 
   VCID: 73EBCD98414C7F1E1E-4B18

1 Fault Found:
17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
            P1570 - 35-10 -  - Intermittent
Readiness: 0110 1101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 01M-927-733.lbl
   Part No: 01M 927 733 HM
   Component: AG4 Getriebe 01M    4604 
   Coding: 00011
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: 0205985C0EF6469605-0962

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1J0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 907 379 P
   Component: ABS     20 IE CAN  0001 
   Coding: 03504
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: 3E7D2CAC3A8EE27621-4B32

2 Faults Found:
00283 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Left  (G47)
            35-10 - - - Intermittent
01130 - ABS Operation
            27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 6Q0 909 605 A
   Component: 11 AIRBAG VW5       0004 
   Coding: 12593
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: 356F33800FB8212EF0-4B18

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
            07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1J0-920-xx0-17.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 920 900 K
   Component: A4-KOMBIINSTR. VDO V26   
   Coding: 07242
   Shop #: WSC 00050 
   VCID: 2A5510FCD6067ED66D-515A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: IMMO
   Component: IDENTNR: VWZ7Z0Y2254987         
   IMMO-IDENTNR: VWZ7Z0Y2254987       

2 Faults Found:
01176 - Key
            07-00 - Signal too Low
01179 - Incorrect Key Programming
            35-00 - -

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001 
   Coding: 00007
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: 70E1C294305A4406E3-5178

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1J0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 959 799 AJ
   Component: 60 Zentral-SG Komf. 0001 
   Coding: 04096
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: 060D844C22DE7AB629-4B18

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1J1959801C
   Component: 60 T�rsteuerger. FS0002r 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1J1959802D
   Component: 60 T�rsteuerger. BF0002r 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1J4959811C
   Component: 60 T�rsteuerger. HL0002r 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1J4959812C
   Component: 60 T�rsteuerger. HR0002r 

15 Faults Found:
00949 - Central Locking Motor - tailgate (V53); LOCK
            25-10 - Unknown Switch Condition - Intermittent
00953 - Interior Light Time limit
            25-10 - Unknown Switch Condition - Intermittent
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
            53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01038 - Central Locking Thermal Protection
            35-10 - - - Intermittent
01141 - Luggage Compartment Unlocking Switch (E165)
            27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01179 - Incorrect Key Programming
            35-00 - -
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
            53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
            52-10 - Supply Voltage Too High - Intermittent
01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387)
            53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387)
            52-10 - Supply Voltage Too High - Intermittent
00944 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Passenger Side (Z5)
            35-00 - -
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388)
            53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388)
            52-10 - Supply Voltage Too High - Intermittent
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
            53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
            52-10 - Supply Voltage Too High - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1J0-035-18x-56.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 035 180 D
   Component:  RADIO 3CP         0002 
   Coding: 01401
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: 2041F2D4A03AB48633-4B18

No fault code found.

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Code:
2 Faults Found:
01176 - Key
            07-00 - Signal too Low
01179 - Incorrect Key Programming
            35-00 - -
With "signal too low" code there will be no success in key programming...
Possible reasons:
- faulty key,
- faulty reader coil or wiring from it to cluster (as immo signal is very low level, increased resistance in connectors may cause this, too)
- faulty internal circuitry in cluster, responsible for receiving and recognizing signals from key. MK4 clusters use to die that way...

If You want to solve it ASAP, I'd suggest You to take Jack's offer ;)
If You want to solve it Yourself and learn how things are made and how they work, get another cluster. Best exactly the same part number.
 
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Could try cleaning connections and some Stabilant 22A quick too but my way is permanent.

Everytime the light comes on in my TDI and the engine stays running I laugh and point my middle finger at the cluster saying "NOT TODAY YMF!"
 
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Could try cleaning connections and some Stabilant 22A quick too but my way is permanent.

Everytime the light comes on in my TDI and the engine stays running I laugh and point my middle finger at the cluster saying "NOT TODAY YMF!"
So just how does a person PM another on this forum
 
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Could try cleaning connections and some Stabilant 22A quick too but my way is permanent.

Everytime the light comes on in my TDI and the engine stays running I laugh and point my middle finger at the cluster saying "NOT TODAY YMF!"
You can't imagine how many times
 
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Prematurely hit send, anyway You can't imagine how many times I have given this car the middle finger only to have it shoot it's own right back at me in the form of another complex issue
 
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Please let me know when ready to authenticate ownership and move forward with legal form completed?
 
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Brad,

Shipped!

You have a TV issue probably clean it up and check it.

Immobilizer no more, no more......
 
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To answer your email the TV is the "throttle valve"

It's connected to throttle cable and controls the flap for idle with a servo.

Additionally is the TPS.

Clean and lubricate yours, WD-40 is fine.

Make sure Throttle cable not too tight or loose checking range using RTFB

The TV is adapted by the ECU using a tool such as VCDS.

0x01-04-060

The TV stepper motor must move backward 5mm before it can commence forward to perform an adaption.

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Thanks Jack, I will get right on that. The money I spent on a ROSS-TECH VCDS cable was worth every penny and if I knew how valuable it was I would have bought one the same day as I bought the car. This little adventure alone has saved me tons of money, by being able to diagnose that the immobilizer was the culprit saved a minimum $165.00 shop charge. Then having the access to this forum and resources like yourself has placed the value over the top.
For those who are curious I have sent my ECU to Jack and he has done his magic on it. I have yet to receive it however as he lives on the east coast and I'm on the west coast so snail mail lives up to it's name. I will post back and let everyone know what the outcome is, as if there is any doubt. Now to clean/ adjust / adapt that throttle valve assy.
 
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Your package is in CA already & out for delivery or been delivered, if not be sure to make arrangements or be there for signature is indeed required.
 
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This unit was replaced with no out of pocket cost and second parcel confirmed delivered, please advise of function for forum & since email unanswered.

Thank you
 
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Jack you sent this to him he never receive it on 11/7/20.
You then replaced it at no cost a second time?
And now he's leaving you hanging with no follow up?

Good Luck
 
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Affirmative Stan Lee Marvel Comics,

That is what he said, as did post master, so sent him replacement, delivered and signed for.

Was just reaching out to know what happened with second unit and if all is okay for his kid?
 
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Well not wanting to offend I'll give time for a reply.
But WOW! Hard to believe.

Good Luck
 
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Really sorry to have taken so long to respond, my family unexpectedly flew me to Texas for the Thanksgiving holiday. We recieved the second unit last tuesday and my son tried to get it working to no avail. I got home yesterday and tried to start the car, the car cranks and the immobilizer activated light is flashing on the dash board, thats as far as I've gotten., Again sorry to have left you hanging . I will get the vag-com out and do a test to get that information and trudge forward.
 
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