Seat Toledo cruise control retrofit

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Hi, this is my first post on here and I was hoping someone may be able to help. We are trying to retrofit cruise control to a 2013 Seat Toledo with a NH chassis code. The customer has supplied a replacement indicator stalk with cruise control. Following the retrofit guidelines on Ross Tech website it says that the coding of the steering column module and engine ecu should be recoded to include cruise control.
This vehicle does not have a steering column control module and cruise control is part of the central electric ecu. Using the long code helper I have altered the coding in both these ecus. This has changed the measuring blocks for the central electric ecu from displaying cruise control not installed to the measuring blocks for switch position. However none of these positions alter when the switch is operated.
Have I missed something in the coding process or is the new switch faulty (it is a non genuine customer supplied switch).
I am a registered genuine VCDS user and can attach a complete log file of the car if someone could point me in the right direction on how to do that?
Many thanks in advance for any help received
Simon
 
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We're gonna need to see a full unedited VCDS Auto-Scan of this Toledo.
 
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Hi, Thank you for your reply I have a full scan i can attach if you could point me in the direction of the attach file button. Lots of insert link, media, image buttons but cannot see attach file
 
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Hi, Thank you for your reply I have a full scan i can attach if you could point me in the direction of the attach file button. Lots of insert link, media, image buttons but cannot see attach file
See the link in my signature? That tells how to post an Auto-Scan - BTW you don't attach it, you open the .txt file on your PC is e.g. Notepad, Select All then Copy, the start a new post here click on the "</>" icon this will open a popup into which you past the copied text.
 
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Code:
Monday,28,September,2020,16:18:22:18746
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
VCDS Version: 20.4.2.0
Data version: 20200730 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: VSSZZZNHZD1017978   License Plate: SL13COH
Mileage: 251830km-156479mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: NH-SK25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 2E 44 56 61 77

VIN: VSSZZZNHZD1017978   Mileage: 251830km-156479miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 QH    HW: 03L 906 023 Q
   Component: R4 1.6l TDI   H33 9977 
   Revision: --H33---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00114016002501080000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00065
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023QH 003007
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023QE.rod
   VCID: 7CFC25A9F7A25D664F-8028

2 Faults Found:
7383 - Manifold Pressure / Boost Sensor (G31)
          P0236 00 [096] - Implausible Signal
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

                    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 255 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 68 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 24 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.553 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 39
                    Charge air pressure: actual value-MAP_MMV: 912.76 hPa
                    Charge air pressure specified value-MAP_SP_MMV: 912.76 hPa
                    Ambient air pressure: 100 kPa abs
                    Particle filter: difference pressure-DIP_PF: 1087.21 hPa

6375 - Internal Control Module
          P0606 00 [032] - Processor Fault
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

                    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 74 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 26 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 3.275 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 37
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Engine status-SF_ENG_STATE: ES
                    ECM system status-Binary 16 Bit: 00000000 00000000
                    Hardware monitoring of EEPROM status-FRF_HWMT_EEPROM: 0
                    Freeze_Frame_1_for_processor_monitoring_error-ENVD_MON_3__1: 871
                    Freeze_Frame_2_for_processor_monitoring_error-ENVD_MON_3__2: 0

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 6R0 614 517 BD    HW: 6R0 614 517 BD
   Component: EBC 460 ESP   H08 0004 
   Serial number: A007JRU
   Coding: 5229481409B200BB4A5012D990A80090480A00
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00065
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESPAEntryTRW 002011
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESPAEntryTRW.rod
   VCID: 76E83781C98E073639-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6RA 959 654     HW: 6RA 959 654
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H02 0030 
   Serial number: 24051404210278
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005002
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 0F266265D61456FE9A-805A

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6JA 820 045 A    HW: 6JA 820 045 A
   Component: Man AC        H06 0101 
   Revision: 2013SH06   
   VCID: 356AF08D9C084C2EF0-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 937 090     HW: 7H0 937 090
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H72 0708 
   Revision: B9072001    Serial number: 0531 060131224
   Coding: 7D980B0000010000000809302E0B0C810E80400F60020040020000004000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00065
   VCID: 6BDE16F58ACCCADED6-803E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6JA 959 538 A    HW: 6JA 959 538 A
   Component: E221__MFL-TAP  H02 0103
   Serial number: 00000000000000465316
   Coding: E20000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 34D 959 655 B    HW: 34D 959 655 B
   Component: AirbagVW20    004 0364 
   Serial number: 003K7R00UBFR
   Coding: 88CCC00000000000540000CA008000000045
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00065
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW253 001108
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW253_SK25.rod
   VCID: 346CCD899F725526C7-8060

   Side Sensor Driver Front:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 412 302 13
   Component: SideSensor_Df  003 0148
   Serial number: 349650A2595A1D033F8P
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 412 502 13
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  003 0148
   Serial number: 350650A25D1911D28F7K
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 412 502 13
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  003 0148
   Serial number: 351650A2589DD5C41C2U
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear:
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 412 502 13
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  003 0148
   Serial number: 352650A25773D9223DAL
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6JA 920 940 A    HW: 6JA 920 940 A
   Component: KOMBI         H16 0607 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 420A00
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00065
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_SK25.rod
   VCID: 3A70E3B1BD16A3561D-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 090
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H72 0708 
   Revision: B9072001   
   Coding: 322300
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00065
   VCID: 70E40199A3EA2906E3-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H16 0607 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6AD013F18D36D3D6AD-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 F    HW: 5N0 035 342 F
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0550 
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7664402291   
   Coding: 030100
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00065
   VCID: 2A50D3F145B613D66D-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 C
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V278 
   Coding: 11230
   Shop #: WSC 73430 
   VCID: 3064C199F76A6906A3-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6JA 035 186     HW: 6JA 035 186
   Component: Media2.0      H03 0007 
   Revision: 01000001    Serial number: SEZ1Z2N2066367
   Coding: 01010400020000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00065
   VCID: 78F439B9CB9A71462B-802C

1 Fault Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna
            007 - Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100111
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 233
                    Mileage: 249222 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.12.16
                    Time: 16:13:22


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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 907 534     HW: 7H0 937 090
   Component: Batt.regelung H72 0708 
   Serial number: 0531 060131224
   Coding: 030B1A5A
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00065
   VCID: 6BDE16F58ACCCADED6-803E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 915 181 E    HW: 6R0 915 181 E
   Component: J367-BDM  H08 0181
   Serial number: 00000000004970223464

1 Fault Found:
02252 - Generator
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 233
                    Mileage: 249222 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.12.16
                    Time: 16:14:13


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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 K    HW: 7P6 035 730 K
   Component: TELEFON       H15 3200 
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007664352121
   Coding: 0200000000010110
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00065
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: EV_UHVNA_002.rod
   VCID: 3A70E3B1BD16A3561D-806E

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:49)--------------------------
 
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Did you add wiring from the stalks to the BCM and ECU?
 
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Hi, No wiring has been added.
 
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There is your problem ;)
 
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Thank you for taking the time to reply. Would you happen to know which wires are missing as there didnt appear to be any unpopulated terminals in the multiplug
 
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Great information, thank you very much for your kind help. I will check in to that and report back
 
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Hi, I have had a further look at this. To clarify, there is not a stand alone cruise control stalk. The cruise control functions are on the indicator stalk. This switch has a 16 terminal multiplug and the wiring is as follows
1 Blue/Red
2 Blank
3 Blank
4 Blank
5 Blank
6 Blank
7 Yellow/Green
8 Blank
9 Yellow/Green
10 Orange
11 Blank
12 Blank
13 Black/White
14 Black/Green
15 Blank
16 Brown/Green
This doesnt match the information kindly supplied so far. Would anyone have any more information available please?
 
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With respect to the ECU pin, I refer to the image above.

For BCM/stalks T16:

 
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Thank you once again. I will look in to this
 
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Ok so I have this vehicle back in. Connections carried out so far:
Terminals of cruise control switch
1 Already had a blue/red wire installed and has ignition live to it
2 Connected to terminal 45 on the white connector of the onboard supply control unit
3 Connected to terminal 47 on the white connector of the onboard supply control unit
4 Connected to terminal 45 on the white connector of the onboard supply control unit
5 Connected to terminal 46 on the white connector of the onboard supply control unit
6 Connected to terminal 44 on the white connector of the onboard supply control unit

Now I can see that terminals 2 and 4 also need connecting to the engine ecu but the drawing states to terminal 29 of the 56 pin connector. The ecu on the car has a 94 pin connector and a 60 pin connector. Haynes pro suggest it should go to pin 64 but I just need to confirm which terminal 2 and 4 of the cruise control switch connect to on the engine ecu.
If I look in central electric ecu the live data now shows correct switch operation, if looking in measuring blocks of engine ecu then alterations in the binary numbers of the cruise control can be seen but without knowing what the binary numbers mean I cannot confirm what is happening. The cruise control is still currently not working obviously because of the lack of connection to engine ecu.
Could anyone help to confirm which pin in the engine ecu and on what plug the terminals 2 and 4 of the cruise switch have to be connected to
 
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Update. As per the original wiring diagram provided it goes to pin 64 of the 94 pin connector. All now up and working.
Thank you to all contributors and viewers
 
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Sorry for not responding. In post #13 I wrote "With respect to the ECU pin, I refer to the image above." The image above being #10.
1.6 TDI indeed goes to T94/64. Not trying to be a wise ass here but for future reference :)

Enjoy your car with the new cruise control system!
 
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