Touareg Access Start Authorization, no power to fuel pump

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iambatman

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did a motor swap do to a snapped timing chain, got a rebuilt motor from a reputable supplier, after buttoning everything up and attempting to start, there is no power getting to the fuel lines, when putting direct 12 volts to to the pump the motor starts and runs, any help would be great

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Thursday,24,September,2020,19:52:09:07410
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20200730 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WVGZE77L17D017731   License Plate:
Chassis Type: 7L (7L - VW Touareg (2003 > 11/2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 08 09 11 13 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 29 32 34 36
          37 39 3C 46 47 55 56 57 64 65 68 69 6C 6D 6E 75 76 77
VIN: WVGZE77L17D017731   Mileage: 215280km-133768miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03H-906-032-BLV.clb
   Part No SW: 03H 997 033 R    HW: 03H 906 032 E
   Component: T 3.6-FSI-LEV2  G00 2374 
   Revision: --H05---    Serial number: VWZ3Z0F2515451
   Coding: 0001175
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3C21314E6A7A68CB4EB-5184
2 Faults Found:

012425 - Signal Line for Fuel Pump Electronics
               P3089 - 004 - Electrical Malfunction
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 215288 km
                    Time Indication: 0
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 175 /min
                    Load: 89.8 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 20.0°C
                    Temperature: 28.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 10.414 V
005241 - Brake Boost Vacuum System
               P1479 - 008 - Mechanical Failure
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 215288 km
                    Time Indication: 0
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1081 /min
                    Load: 54.1 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 20.0°C
                    Temperature: 23.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.716 V
Readiness: 0110 0101
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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09D-927-750.clb
   Part No SW: 09D 927 750 FF    HW: 09D 927 750 FF
   Component: AL 750 6A           1274 
   Revision: 00H51000    Serial number:              
   Coding: 0004216
   Shop #: WSC 08126 444 54583
   VCID: 77ABEE6213DC8B93639-5160
No fault code found.
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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 7L0-907-379-MK25.lbl
   Part No: 7L0 907 379 G
   Component: ESP ALLRAD MK25     0203 
   Coding: 0014338
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3D273C4A716061C3795-5184
1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            000 - -
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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 7L0 909 135 A    HW: 5WK 485 01
   Component:    Kessy            6700 
   Revision: 67006015    Serial number: VWZ3Z0F2515451
   Coding: 0000232
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2F3B1602AB0C8353FB9-5184
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: ELV                 XXXX
3 Faults Found:
00166 - Access/Start Authorization Switch (E415)
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
00087 - Terminal 30 for Starting Relevant Consumers
            009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
            009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 7L6-907-040.clb
   Part No: 7L6 907 040 T
   Component: CLIMAtronic R/L     4222 
   Coding: 0020030
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 41DF40BA0D9805231DD-5184
1 Fault Found:
01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238)
            007 - Short to Ground
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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 7Lx-937-049-V1.clb
   Part No: 7L6 937 049 M
   Component:                     3003 
   Coding: 0100575
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 46D553A624B6221B28F-5184
6 Faults Found:
00967 - Left Turn Signals
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
01494 - Bulb for Parking Lamps; Left (M1)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00978 - Lamp for Low Beam; Left (M29)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
01495 - Bulb for High-Beams; Left (M30)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
00907 - Intervention load Management
            000 - -
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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 3D0-909-601.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 909 601 H
   Component: 05 Airbag 8.4E++H01 0562 
   Revision: BB38727     Serial number: 0009279>     
   Coding: 0012341
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2809FD1E8EE2D46B3A3-5184
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L0 959 339 C
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 006 0008
1 Fault Found:

00532 - Supply Voltage B+
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 39
                    Time Indication: 0
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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 7L6-953-549.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 953 549 H
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul     3401 
   Coding: 0010031
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 44D149AE128A100B36B-5184
1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
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   Part No: 7L6 920 971 G
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT RB8 2111 
   Coding: 0007231
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3C21314E6A7A68CB4EB-5184
3 Faults Found:
00771 - Fuel Level Sensor (G)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00438 - Fuel Supply Sensor 2 (G169)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
01517 - Control Module for Trailer/Towing Sensor (J345)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901
   Component: Gateway K<>CAN      0101 
   Coding: 0000006
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 70B9D57E76B2DCABA23-5184
1 Fault Found:
01517 - Control Module for Trailer/Towing Sensor (J345)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 7L6-919-879.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 919 879 A
   Component: JCI PathPoint       2200 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 45D754AA19B02903215-5184
1 Fault Found:
00926 - Terminal 30
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
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Address 22: AWD        Labels: None
   Part No: 0AD 927 755 BE
   Component: TRANSFERCASE        0119 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 7F5B06423BECB3D32B9-5184
No fault code found.
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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
   Part No: 7L0 959 760
   Component: Sitzverstellung     0702 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 77ABEE6213DC8B93639-5184
1 Fault Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 7L0-959-933.lbl
   Part No: 7L0 959 933 H
   Component: YM HSG              0400 
   Coding: 0000085
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 41DF40BA0D9805231DD-4B3C
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L0 959 701 G
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet FS 0201
   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L0 959 702 G
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet BF 0201
   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 7L0 959 703 C
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HL 0201
   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7L0 959 704 C
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HR 0201
5 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387)
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388)
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 7L6-907-357.lbl
   Part No SW: 7L6 907 357     HW: 7L6 907 357
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0003 
   Revision:   H09       Serial number:              
   Coding: 0000007
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 78A9ED5E1EC284EB6A3-5184
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: ID-L fehlt    Labels: ID-55-01.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    .... 
   Coding: 00000255
   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 330
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    X018 
   Coding: 00000034
6 Faults Found:
01042 - Control Module; Not Coded
            000 - - - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 175
                    Time Indication: 0
02656 - Power Output Stage for Left Headlight (J667); Not Coded
            000 - - - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 175
                    Time Indication: 0
02657 - Power Output Stage for Right Headlight (J668); Not Coded
            000 - - - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 175
                    Time Indication: 0
01539 - Headlights Not Adjusted
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100101
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 175
                    Time Indication: 0
02233 - Left Headlight Power Output Stage (J667)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 175
                    Time Indication: 0
01328 - Convenience System Data Bus
            013 - Check DTC Memory - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101101
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 175
                    Time Indication: 0
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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 7L6-035-180-56.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 035 180 H
   Component: Radio DE2           0003 
   Coding: 0001405
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 323D1F76B83EAEBB947-5184
No fault code found.
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Address 68: Wiper Electr.        Labels: 7L0-955-119-V2.clb
   Part No: 7L0 955 119 K
   Component: Front Wiper         4027 
   Coding: 0000341
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 376833
   VCID: 3C21314E6A7A68CB4EB-5184
   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AB  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RLS     071006 020  0105 
   Coding: 00208933
   Shop #: WSC 31414 
No fault code found.
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Address 6D: Trunk Elect.        Labels: 7L6-959-107.clb
   Part No SW: 7L6 959 107     HW: 7L6 959 107
   Component: J605  HECKKLAPPE    1110 
   Revision: --H05---    Serial number: --------005023
   Coding: 0022110
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 78A9ED5E1EC284EB6A3-5184
2 Faults Found:
03234 - Functionality Limited due to Critical Electrical Condition
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 166
                    Time Indication: 0
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 165
                    Time Indication: 0
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Address 6E: Ctrl Head Roof        Labels: None
   Part No: 7L6 919 044 T
   Component: DACHDISPLAY         0539 
   Revision: 00900539    Serial number: 2009289.07   
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 48C95D9E2EA2346BDA3-5184
1 Fault Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No: 7L0 919 283 F
   Component: 0E Einparkhilfe     1107 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 392F285A65485DE355D-5184
1 Fault Found:
01517 - Control Module for Trailer/Towing Sensor (J345)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
End----(Elapsed Time: 08:35, VBatt start/end: 11.7V/10.8V. VIgn 10.8V)-----
=======================================================
Controller Software Versions:
ECU 1 = Engine        2374
ECU 2 = Auto Trans        1274
ECU 3 = ABS Brakes        0203
ECU 4 = Acc/Start Auth.        670
Sub ECU 4 > 1 = Acc/Start Auth.        XXX
ECU 5 = Auto HVAC        4222
ECU 6 = Cent. Elect.        3003
ECU 7 = Airbags        0562
Sub ECU 7 > 1 = Airbags        6000
ECU 8 = Steering wheel        3401
ECU 9 = Instruments        Labels:
ECU 10 = CAN Gateway        0101
ECU 11 = Position Sensing        22
ECU 12 = AWD        0119
ECU 13 = Seat Mem. Drvr        0702
ECU 14 = Central Conv.        0400
Sub ECU 14 > 1 = Central Conv.        S020
Sub ECU 14 > 2 = Central Conv.        F020
Sub ECU 14 > 3 = Central Conv.        L020
Sub ECU 14 > 4 = Central Conv.        R020
ECU 15 = Headlight Range        000
Sub ECU 15 > 1 = Headlight Range        ...
Sub ECU 15 > 2 = Headlight Range        X01
ECU 16 = Radio        0003
ECU 17 = Wiper Electr.        4027
Sub ECU 17 > 1 = Wiper Electr.        0105
ECU 18 = Trunk Elect.        1110
ECU 19 = Ctrl Head Roof        0539
ECU 20 = Park Assist        1107
 
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I'm not able to look up any information at this time... but based on the fault code... is there an issue with the fuel pump control module? Wiring issues? If you unplug the fuel pump control module outright, do you get a no comm or no signal type of fault code for it?

Was the P3089 in there prior to the engine swap? I take it the ECM is original. OK, back to vacation.....
 
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fuel pump control module was changed, same code with it plugged it or unplugged, none of these codes were there prior to new motor. i had it running for 5 months today buy removing the terminal 30 relay and jumping it with a wire, but now it wont even run with it like that, getting code for ecm power relay short to ground which i assume is because i jumped it with the wire but even with the relay plugged in the code stays,
 
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Seems like the start authorization and central electrics module are upset over not getting a terminal 30/B+ input they're supposed to... I'd start by looking into that..

What I can tell poking at wiring diagrams and fuse information, here's what a 2007 Touareg should have for terminal 30 inputs to the J519 that were NOT specifically defined (like for wipers, various lights etc):

On the driver side dash fuse panel: SB35, SB36 fuses

On the passenger side dash fuse panel: SC8, SC17

On the fuse panel under the driver seat next to the battery: SD9 and SD11

Make sure that not only are all fuses not blown, but that simply you do infact have fuses installed in those locations.

Also check to make sure that all those fuses do have power full time. There are larger strip fuses under the driver seat that power most of the fuses on the fuse panel...
 
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