Disable washer fluid light on an Audi B8

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I have a B8 Allroad with a washer fluid warning light on. The sensor is good and I replaced it with no result, I jumped the wires in the connector with no result, in case the connector was faulty I cut the wires and tied them together with no result. It’s driving me mad and I’m not taking my dash apart to start digging into the control module for this stupid thing. Is there a vag com option to just disable this thing?
 
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Would be helpful if you posted a full and unedited autoscan of the car...
 
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OP your request is not acceptable nor a qualified repair!
It would not because did you know OP's request is illegal in CFR USC 49?
 
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You could test wiring or overlay harness plus qualify the function with a decade box.
Delete of a safety device is not usually permissible in cluster or bcm either for a US region.
 
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OP your request is not acceptable nor a qualified repair!
It would not because did you know OP's request is illegal in CFR USC 49?
None of this is applicable to the OP's specific request.

First, he is an individual, not a manufacturer, distributor, dealer, or motor vehicle repair business, and:
the "make inoperative" provision does not prohibit consumers from modifying their own vehicles, even if such modifications adversely affect the compliance of the vehicle with the FMVSS.
Second, he is not considering making his wipers or washers inoperative, just the washer fluid level warning, which does not appear to be a requirement of
49 CFR § 571.104 - Standard No. 104.

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Indeed but you skipped past this though, huh?
49 CFR § 571.101 - Standard No. 101; Controls and displays.
The OP request is to modify a safety device, we are not permitted to engage or aid in conspiring to do this are we?
Your link brings up an essentially empty page. If you're going to claim it's illegal, please provide a working link and quote the exact portion that you think is relevant.

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Your link brings up an essentially empty page. If you're going to claim it's illegal, please provide a working link and quote the exact portion that you think is relevant.

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It was working last night huh, but no problem?

Sorry about text size..... :(

Did you search the aforementioned CFR control device and telltale, this one again below?

49 CFR § 571.101 - Standard No. 101; Controls and displays.

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See the gifs at bottom of page to correlate.

Is not a wiper washer considered a "control" and communication "telltale" based on regulation/chart or am I mistaken?

Relevant>>>

 
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Is not a wiper washer considered a "control" and communication "telltale" based on regulation/chart or am I mistaken?
I see nothing in there that indicates a washer fluid level indicator is required.

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The only thing that refers to the washers there is a CONTROL, not a tell-tale for the washer fluid level.

Again, the OP is not asking to make his washers non-functional.

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The only thing that refers to the washers there is a CONTROL, not a tell-tale for the washer fluid level.

Again, the OP is not asking to make his washers non-functional.

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Is not a "control device" with a "combination use" of telltale, not permitted to be disabled and tampering with illumination considered a violation of the regulation & why an MIL "control or telltale" device in combination are required to function as originally certified?

My point is, if the functions of such an MIL are considered linked in "combination" would not the OP's request be illegal and open the forum or anyone advising to aid and abet by conspiring a possible civil maybe criminal liability?
 
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:rolleyes:

Stop grasping at straws. It's not a MIL. It's a low washer fluid warning. Washers are required. Low washer fluid indicators are not. You're done in this thread.

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@4lane,

Based on the scan here you have a coding bit in address 17-Instrumets that includes Washer Fluid Warning active in our Long Coding Helper. I'd try turning that off to see if it helps.
 
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@4lane,

Based on the scan here you have a coding bit in address 17-Instrumets that includes Washer Fluid Warning active in our Long Coding Helper. I'd try turning that off to see if it helps.
yes, found the coding bit in 17-Instruments, but deactivating it didn’t do anything.
 
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Today I went at this issue again because this giant dash warning is making me want to drive the car off a cliff. Disabling the washer warning did not work, likely because of a warning prompt.

I went under the wheel well to look at the wire again and pulled 6” of one wire. If I can’t disable this, I have to find where this wire goes from the top of the wheel well. I see one loom coming up from that area but it just goes direct to the positive terminal in the cowl. Does anyone know where I can find this wire accessible so I can tie them together?
 
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First I have to capitulate in this thread because I was reading into the spirit of the regulation and got carried away.

I was wrong...Uwe is right, in regards to this.
My first intuition is to always do stuff fixed proper to best of ability.

My hope is that if we review WD and find wiring, we can still repair, however, the testing process by decade box. This will also net knowledge of a work around, see were I'm going?

OP post a scan please & so I can try to help you.
 
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Thank you - here you go:

Code:
Sunday,01,November,2020,16:36:49:02305
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20200730 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WA1UFAFL0DA069272   License Plate:
Mileage: 106380km-66101mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: FL-AU48 (8R0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 36 42 44 46 47 52 53 56 5F 62
          6C 6D 72

VIN: WA1UFAFL0DA069272   Mileage: 106380km-66101miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (DET-CPMA)       Labels:. 06H-907-115-CDN.clb
   Part No SW: 8K5 907 115 F    HW: 8K2 907 115 L
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TF H09 0008 
   Revision: ECH09---   
   Coding: 722A0013242600062000
   Shop #: WSC 54964 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0118K5907115F 001009
   ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0118K5907115F.rod
   VCID: 3537DC2F05C1E6B3B15-8060

2 Faults Found:
5646 - Leak in Air Intake System
          P2279 00 [237] - -
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 106241 km
                    Date: 2020.10.26
                    Time: 08:47:27

                    Engine speed: 799.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 15.7 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 71 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 13 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 970 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.442 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Median injection timing: 1.147 ms
                    Engine operating condition: Idling
                    Engine operating condition-Test_Program_Channel 87: 5
                    A/C compressor: load current: act. value: 920.50 A

4106 - Bank 1; System too Rich at Idle
          P2188 00 [104] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Mileage: 105815 km
                    Date: 2020.10.19
                    Time: 09:00:53

                    Engine speed: 791.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 21.6 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 87 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 21 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 970 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.559 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 37
                    Median injection timing: 1.291 ms
                    Engine operating condition: Idling
                    Engine operating condition-Test_Program_Channel 87: 5

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0BK-927-156.clb
   Part No SW: 8K1 927 158     HW: 0BK 927 156 AL
   Component: 0BK 20TFSIUSA H16 1006 
   Revision: --H16---   
   Coding: 000002
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL551211 002022
   ROD: EV_TCMAL551211_002_AU48.rod
   VCID: 74B1212B4E3BBFBB46B-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 8K0-907-379-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8K9 907 379 M    HW: 8K9 907 379 M
   Component: ESP8 quattro  H09 0100 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0E1D18
   Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
   VCID: 4CC199CB76CB877BFEB-8018

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 FP    HW: 8K0 907 064 FP
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H10 0602 
   Revision: 00002001   
   Coding: 0D820000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 035372F71B1588034F1-8056

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 E    HW: 8K0 905 852 E
   Component: J764 ELV MLB  H40 0046
   Serial number: 2312000100185014   

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:. 8Kx-820-043-3Z.clb
   Part No SW: 8K1 820 043 N    HW: 8K1 820 043 N
   Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H04 0123 
   Revision: C1000000    Serial number: 01110520121266
   Coding: 6480208000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 3333E2370B35F8839F1-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 DH    HW: 8K0 907 063 AH
   Component: BCM1 1.0      H14 0103 
   Revision: 08014001    Serial number: 00000030437701
   Coding: 26000091803CAFC00000480300003D0D0F1C4708A2090221000008000000030100000030000000
   Shop #: WSC 08185 444 103375
   VCID: 78A9151B52D3DBDB6A3-802C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K1 955 119 A    HW: 8T1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS 110512  H07 0070
   Serial number: SWF12050115803     
   Coding: 00FD11

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 B    HW: 8U0 955 559 B  Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
   Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0002
   Serial number: 20271225           
   Coding: 02005D

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AS    HW: 8K0 941 531 AS
   Component: E1 - LDS  H03 0031
   Serial number: 00000000000305120151

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4G0 907 410 A    HW: 4H0 907 410 A
   Component: USHL4.2  H30 0030
   Serial number: 0000002274555R1NZ702

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658     HW: 4H0 907 658
   Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor  H02 0002
   Serial number: 2908C126000000000001

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 8K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 M    HW: 8K0 959 655 M
   Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H46 0610 
   Serial number: 003KEDA014G  
   Coding: 303844354A32303030304A55304C384B3053
   Shop #: WSC 00040 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
   ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_003_AU48.rod
   VCID: 47CBA6E76F2D6423D39-8012

   Seat occupied recognition:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 339 C    HW: 8K0 959 339 C
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H02 0040
   Serial number: 5810000R1200008MMA

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 6334MSME6E514072C

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
   Serial number: 6344MSME6F222D3BS

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
   Serial number: 6352QSME441653628

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
   Serial number: 6362QSME4F15014CK

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 63732SME6D14325A0

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Serial number: 63832SME4C145162Z

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 953 568 Q    HW: 8R0 953 568 Q
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H02 0171 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 20120514001084
   Coding: 000017
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4FFB8EC787DDBC639B9-801A

   Component: E221 - MFL  H03 0003

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 920 982 A    HW: 8K0 920 982 A
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H35 0540 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: NTC23475D    
   Coding: 8B2629020301D705020000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 323DE733F42FF18B947-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 468 C    HW: 8R0 907 468 C
   Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H10 0025 
   Revision: 1Y030014    Serial number: 1441Y125030368
   Coding: 00C303FF00
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 3FDBBE07377D2CE36B9-806A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 915 181     HW: 8T0 915 181
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8041
   Serial number: 8175957401         

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels:. 8T0-959-760.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 760 D    HW: 8K0 959 760 D
   Component: MEM-FS        H06 0076 
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000029145580
   Coding: 00581B00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 3B23CA17236530C3471-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 P    HW: 8K0 959 793 P
   Component: TSG FA        H02 0506 
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000029908343
   Coding: 011C13205E00410001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4DC794CF8DD18E73E95-8018

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 8K0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 909 144 F    HW: 8K0 909 144 B
   Component: RCEPS         H36 0507 
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 0020526803
   Coding: 100000000001
   Shop #: WSC 08185 444 122181
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPSAU48X 008014
   ROD: EV_RCEPSAU48X_008.rod
   VCID: 3431E12B0EBBFFBB86B-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 FP    HW: 8K0 907 064 FP
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H10 0602 
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0176517259   
   Coding: 0126023A20BA709580B0023200000000
   Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
   VCID: 035372F71B1588034F1-8056

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 719 B    HW: 8K0 959 719
   Component: GTO BF  H01 0080
   Serial number: 00000000000000519778

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 B    HW: 8K0 959 591
   Component: J245 PS150  H08 0043

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 B    HW: 8K0 959 591
   Component: J394 PS240  H08 0043

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:. 8T0-035-223-BOM.clb
   Part No SW: 8T1 035 223 A    HW: 8T1 035 223 A
   Component: DSP Prem      H04 0030 
   Revision: 00004001    Serial number: 94814003201301
   VCID: 2D07F44FED11AE73C95-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 P    HW: 8K0 959 792 P
   Component: TSG BF        H02 0506 
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000029772602
   Coding: 011C13205E00410001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4CC199CB76CB877BFEB-8018

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (----)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 L    HW: 8K0 907 801 J
   Component: EPB-4         H01 0003 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000000048809
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001027
   ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_AU48.rod
   VCID: 3829D51B12D31BDBAA3-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4G0 035 080 G    HW: 4G0 035 080
   Component: Radio U SIRIU H60 0133 
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 158H10E7505942
   Coding: 020007010000000001
   Shop #: WSC 01238 002 1048576
   VCID: 221D1773A4CF610B647-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 8R1 035 746 G    HW: 8R1 035 746 A
   Component: H-BNT-NA      H42 0901 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 096E 0C7510836
   Coding: 010200050006A1EF41028F4E00000403140000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 3B23CA17236530C3471-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 AD
   Component: NAR 2011  0505

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 919 604     HW: 8R0 919 604
   Component: DU7 High  H41 0104
   Serial number: A130EG0CS169387    

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 611 L    HW: 8T0 919 611 C
   Component: E0380 Bedient  H02 0030
   Serial number: 00000001153298     

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 B
   Component: CD-Database  3371

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 D    HW: 8K0 959 795 D
   Component: TSG HL        H01 0506 
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000030049731
   Coding: 010C13204000210001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 43D3B2F75B9548030F1-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 8T0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 441 D    HW: 8T0 907 441 D
   Component: J772__Rearview      0140 
   Revision: --H06---    Serial number: 525PA8-J229325
   Coding: 1000007
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 392FD01F255902D355D-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605)       Labels: 8K9-827-851.clb
   Part No SW: 8K9 827 851 A    HW: 8K9 827 851 A
   Component: J605  Master  H52 0330 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 8K9827851A   
   VCID: 3C21C90B266B37FB4EB-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K9 827 852 A    HW: 8K9 827 852 A
   Component: J756  Slave  H52 0330
   Serial number: 8K9827852A         

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 D    HW: 8K0 959 795 D
   Component: TSG HR        H01 0506 
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000030050712
   Coding: 010C13204000210001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 43D3B2F75B9548030F1-8016

No fault code found.

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Jack@European_Parts

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VCDS Serial number
C?ID=57337
Sub system redundancy check config started!

Vehicle Identification No.WA1UFAFL0DA069272
ModelAudi A4 Av. Allroad
quattro 2.0
A4AR
Date of production23.05.2012
Model year2013
Sales type8KH52A
Engine CodeCPMA
Transmission CodeNGR

Emission standard7GBEmission standard ULEV 2

Intermittent windshield wiper control/
light/rain sensor
8N6Windshield wiper intermittent control
with light/rain sensor

PART NUMBERDESCRIPTION
7M0 919 376 water level switch


OP.....
First are you sure the sensor is this part number you changed above and no FOD?
Can you please undo the changes in VCDS?
Can you scan blocks of BCM/Cluster to see if we can locate the washer tank values, Uwe please chime in if you have handy?

As can be seen, G33 is fed by J519 from T32b/ PIN 25 to T32b/ PIN 28 to loop the washer sensor at J519.

The feed tracks are shared for F34,G17,G32.......!

Isolate them and verify the display sees faults for each, further while seeing if feed voltage is at PIN 1 of G33 washer sensor and matches feed voltage at any of these respective shared tracks in WD under hood?

A quick test if voltage is not present at G33 would be to jump overlay to G33 from any above sensor that is functional since its a tree anyway and its only one wire back to J519 from G33.

This should be pretty simple to achieve, make sense now?

A quick test scrolling with a decade box in car at T32b PINS 28 and 25 starting at 100-1000 ohms bridged should net a result or J519 is kauput!




 
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