2013 VW UP! No crank

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Wout

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It started a few months ago. Sometimes no crank after running a few minutes. Cold start always ok. Battery almost new. And when it cranks it runs like a charm. Both starter relays J906 and J907 dont move but have +12V. Checked all fuses and ground connections. Pretty desperate after a week. Thanks in advance!

Code:
Sunday,30,August,2020,11:30:01:15372
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20200730 DS317.0
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VIN: WVWZZZAAZED000505   License Plate: 
Mileage: 131640km-81797mi   Repair Order: 30-08



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Chassis Type: AA-VW12 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 09 15 17 19 25 44 56 61

VIN: WVWZZZAAZED000505   Mileage: 131640km-81797miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (------CHYB)       Labels:. 04C-906-020-CHY.clb
   Part No SW: 04C 906 020 AQ    HW: 04C 907 309 P
   Component: 1.0l R3 MPI   H23 5976  
   Revision: UNH23---    
   Coding: 00110012020401000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906020AQ 001005
   ROD: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906020AP_VW12.rod
   VCID: 6A8C3D8F7CFC299BEC7-803E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0001

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1S0-614-517.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 614 517 E    HW: 1S0 614 517 E
   Component: EBC 460 ESP   H08 0012  
   Serial number: A00AVYG
   Coding: 12BF24718BAD02F148FF24F5D1AE4050590100
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESPMP1TRWVW120 016035
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESPMP1TRWVW120.rod
   VCID: 313EEAE391AA9A43EDD-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1S0-937-09x-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 937 090 B    HW: 1S0 937 090 B
   Component: PQ25 BCM      H59 0563  
   Revision: -8------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 64B8290000010000000009F46C28ACD07740426F7E820440200000420000
   Shop #: WSC 29120 004 1048576
   VCID: 323CE5EF942CA15B947-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 959 655 B    HW: 1S0 959 655 B
   Component: VW10Airbag00J H02 0006  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003MY002HC8C
   Coding: 00000000000000000000000000000000304A
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
   VCID: 3D26C6D35DF26E23795-8068

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575HRB405R20N96D0JB

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3585HRB400G50G0888JV

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3555NRB40164UP62B141

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 1Sx-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 1S0 920 860 M    HW: 1S0 920 860 M
   Component: KOMBI         H31 0205  
   Revision: X0031012    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 114200
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10 A04752
   ROD: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10_A04_VW12.rod
   VCID: 3A2CCDCF4CDC591B5C7-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 1S0 937 090 B
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H59 0563  
   Revision: -8------    
   Coding: 001000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 70B82FE75AA0D34BA23-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:. 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 1S0 920 860 M
   Component: IMMO          H31 0205  
   Revision: X0031012    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10 A01702
   ROD: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10_VW12.rod
   VCID: 6A8C3D8F7CFC299BEC7-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 1Sx-909-144-44.clb
   Part No SW: 1S1 909 144 L    HW: 1S1 909 144 G
   Component: EPS_ECU       H35 1503  
   Coding: 0001000101000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisNSK 009004
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisNSK_009_VW12.rod
   VCID: 3C20CBD746E8672B4EB-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 035 156     HW: 1S0 035 156 
   Component: Radio         567 5541  
   Revision: AA001001    Serial number: VWZ8Z1N4099465
   Coding: 0000020801
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 6888478762701B8BFA3-803C

1 Fault Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 135
                    Mileage: 131644 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.01.21
                    Time: 00:16:21


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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 907 534     HW: 1S0 937 090 B
   Component: Batt-regelung H59 0563  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 032B7864
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 70B82FE75AA0D34BA23-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1S0 915 181 B    HW: 1S0 915 181 B
   Component: J367-BDM  H08 0210 

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 00:35, VBatt start/end: 12.6V/12.6V)-----------
 
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Hi and welcome. Got you Verified.

Given the lack of fault codes, the car itself doesn't know why it's not cranking. That means you'll have to trouble-shoot it the old-fashioned way, with wiring diagrams and a multimeter.

-Uwe-
 
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Wout

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Thanks for verifying me Uwe. I have been measuring for a week already and found nothing wrong between J623 ECU relays and G467 (the clutchposition sensor). Strange thing is i cant measure the G467 somewhere in the VCDS blocks. Any help would be very appreciated.. Thanks.
 
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