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Hello Members.

I replaced my BCM on a Vw T5,1 Caravelle to a 7E0 937 090 D BCM PQ25 Max4 H82 0762

I cleared the stored data from the BCM and when attempting to code my keys VCDS says Chanel not available.

Are my only option is the dealer coding?
Code:
Saturday,01,August,2020,11:52:12:36108
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZCH133237   License Plate: AJ62
Mileage: 135260km-84046mi   Repair Order: New BCM adaptation issue


Adaptation Channel 001:
Stored value 
  ERROR:   
  Channel 01   
  Not   
  Available
Latest scan

Code:
Saturday,01,August,2020,11:47:49:36108
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZCH133237   License Plate: AJ62
Mileage: 135260km-84046mi   Repair Order: New BCM



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Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (7E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 0D 10 15 17 18 19 25 56 69 78 0B

VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZCH133237   Mileage: 135260km-84046miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0D-Slide Door, Left -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
69-Trailer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
78-Slide Door, Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFCA)       Labels:. 03L-906-022-CFC.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 022 JD    HW: 03L 907 309 H
   Component: R4 v002 EDC   X36 8749  
   Revision: 22X36---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0125401A232400080000
   Shop #: WSC 79883 336 16496
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906022JD 002011
   ROD: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906022JB.rod
   VCID: 70ACD288AB2E1F06FB-8024

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels:. 0BH-927-711.clb
   Part No SW: 0BT 300 045 M    HW: 0BH 927 711 C
   Component: DSG DQ500-7F  H05 1795  
   Revision: 00H05V01    
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ500021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ500021_001_VW36.rod
   VCID: 3FCE41B4A6F0B07E32-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK25AXT.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 J    HW: 7E0 907 379 E
   Component: ESP MK25A XT  H43 0109  
   Revision: 00H43001    
   Coding: 108764AD09A7089826A49074AA6510
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 49152
   VCID: 393A2FACB0D49E4E0C-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 7E5-907-040.clb
   Part No SW: 7E5 907 040 AC    HW: 7E5 907 040 AC
   Component: ClimatronicT5 H19 0407  
   Revision: 00001003    
   Coding: 0004000102
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimatronicT5 A01003
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoT5Basis.rod
   VCID: 699ABFEC88F4EECEBC-803C

   Slave 1: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E5 907 049 B    HW: 7E5 907 049 B
   Component: Heckbedienung  H10 0202 
   Serial number: BHB-0012304120015096

1 Fault Found:
13701456 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [Steuergerät im Schalttafeleinsatz - kein Signal/Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 3
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 D    HW: 7E0 937 090 D
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H82 0762  
   Revision: B9082001    Serial number: 8601 312180165
   Coding: A0B279382E612413932888106C2B8EDD0080410F60844000300003000000
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 2C1406F84F863BE687-8078

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 180412 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 02302E

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 B    HW: 7E0 959 801 B  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  002 3311 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 010000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 B    HW: 7E0 959 802 B  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  002 3311 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7E1 951 171 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 7E1 951 171 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D    HW: 3C8 959 537 D  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TK6  H06 0022 
   Serial number: 70000000000000149465
   Coding: E30000

4 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 43
                    Time Indication: 0

01516 - Terminal 30; Left 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 3
                    Time Indication: 0

00927 - Terminal 30 (Right) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 3
                    Time Indication: 0

04194 - Vehicle Status with Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 3
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 0D: Slide Door, Left        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No: 7E0 959 243 D
   Component: Schiebetuer-SG  407 0328  
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 302C1288A3AE5F06BB-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 7E0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 E    HW: 7E0 919 475 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H11 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 47461208500166
   Coding: 108102
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K A01005
   ROD: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K_A01_VN75.rod
   VCID: 34241E989FB66326DF-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 C    HW: 7E0 959 655 C
   Component: VW10Airbag00P H07 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003HM002866L
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003050
   Shop #: WSC 02754 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
   VCID: 3620249089CA7136E1-8062

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3495ZRB405B0P7HOEHCF

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3505ZRB40510P7AOGGM1

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 7E0 920 980 E    HW: 7E0 920 980 E
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0306  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 460F01
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 2D120BFC7C9C32EE90-8078

1 Fault Found:
12664832 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [Steuergerät für BCM / Bordnetz / el. ZE: keine Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 3
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00


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Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: None
   Part No: 7E0 815 071 B
   Component: J737__Standheizung  0605  
   Revision: 00085000    Serial number: 09019275F00000
   Coding: 0000031
   Shop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
   VCID: 2404EED8E756F3A64F-8070

3 Faults Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Temperature: 28.0°C
                    Voltage: 11.56 V
                    Temperature: 77.5°C

00625 - Vehicle Speed Signal 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Temperature: 28.0°C
                    Voltage: 11.49 V
                    Temperature: 77.5°C

00667 - Ambient Temperature Signal 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Temperature: 28.0°C
                    Voltage: 11.49 V
                    Temperature: 77.5°C


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 D
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H82 0762  
   Revision: B9082001    
   Coding: 042300
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 689CBAE89BFED7C6A3-803C

2 Faults Found:
01304 - Radio 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 3
                    Time Indication: 0

00381 - Databus Instrument Cluster 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 3
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0306  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW31.rod
   VCID: 6A98C0E08DF2E5D6B5-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 H    HW: 1K0 907 383 G
   Component: Anhaenger     H12 0130  
   Revision: 3B001001    Serial number: 00000509112665
   Coding: 0100000101000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 322818806DA26D16CD-8066

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 3
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 78: Slide Door, Right        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No: 7E0 959 243 D
   Component: Schiebetuer-SG  407 0328  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 302C1288A3AE5F06BB-8064

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 02:04, VBatt start/end: 11.6V/11.6V. VIgn 11.6V)-----
 
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Check BCM, Channel 099, Factory mode is probably active, must be inactive.
 
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Thank you NEtech. I checked and it is not . I bought a second hand BCM
 
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Ok Local Vw dealer not willing to help unless I buy a brand new BCM from them.

Anyone any idea I should try???
 
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Dealers usually insist on installing a component which is appropriate to the particular vehicle as per VIN and which the factory diagnostic tool will adapt to the vehicle without fuss.

What BCM did the car have originally?
 
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They said they not going to code the keys for a second hand BCD because they cannot give warranty for that work.

My original BCM T5GP H+4 H47 0254 7H0 937 087 H

I just do not understand why VCDS cannot do it. Others upgraded the BCD without any issue. What could be the difference with this particular BCD?
 
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Part numbers not the same. BCM are fitted & coded to Vin no (equipment fitted).
I would recommend getting a BCM with the same part no and try coding again.
 
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I vaguely remember the retrofit from anything else to a 090 BCM needed wiring work - running additional battery powers to the BCM, which it appears to be currently missing.

There should be threads about the very same thing on this forum.
 
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Part numbers not the same. BCM are fitted & coded to Vin no (equipment fitted).
I would recommend getting a BCM with the same part no and try coding again.

They are not. It meant to be an upgrade 090D is a T6 BCM
 
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I vaguely remember the retrofit from anything else to a 090 BCM needed wiring work - running additional battery powers to the BCM, which it appears to be currently missing.

There should be threads about the very same thing on this forum.
Yes there are some wiring work needed, but that should be a next stage. According to my research everyone who done the BCM upgrade done it without any issue with key coding. However, no-one done it on a Caravelle. Could this might be an issue?
I am trying to get some BCM part numbers and pictures of a T73A/B connectors from a T6 Caravelle on an other forum, but no luck yet. My BCM is from a Transporter
I find out that there are some differences on the BCM's pin layout according to the latest connector pin apssigmrnt list on the wiring diagram, but it nothing to do with key coding either.
 
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if your BCM is from car after 2019 you not allow to adapt key over BCM
after 2019 all cars use Remote Learn durring key learn ....something like MQB cars
even ODIS mention that , and when you look into IMMo coding - you will see that this function is enable
 
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