2009 Volkswagen Passat R36 - misfire detection and fuel trim data

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Have traced it to a leaky PCV so I have ordered a replacement valve diaphragm and gasket from RKXTech so will see how that goes.
 
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Update - located a leaky PCV valve so replaced that along with all gaskets but misfire is still there, and quite frequent with a very light application of the throttle in Park.

Code:
Engine Speed    Engine Load    Misfire
(G28)        (total)
/min     %  
640    16.5    7
640    15.8    7
640    15.8    7
560    21.1    8
960    18    8
1160    13.5    8
1000    12.8    8
840    14.3    8
720    14.3    8
640    15.8    8
640    16.5    8
640    16.5    8
640    16.5    8
640    15.8    8
640    15.8    8
640    15.8    8
720    15.8    8
840    15    8
920    13.5    8
960    12.8    9
920    12.8    10
840    12.8    1
840    13.5    1
800    13.5    2
840    13.5    2
840    12.8    2
840    12.8    3
880    12.8    3
840    12.8    3
800    12.8    4
800    13.5    4
840    12.8    4
800    12.8    5
840    13.5    6
840    13.5    7
920    12.8    7
840    12.8    7
840    13.5    8
880    13.5    8
880    12.8    9
920    12    9
840    12.8    9
840    12.8    10
840    12.8    10
840    12.8    11
840    12.8    11
800    12.8    12
800    13.5    12
840    13.5    12
840    12.8    12
800    12.8    12
800    13.5    13
760    13.5    14
840    13.5    14
880    13.5    14
920    12.8    14
880    12.8    15
760    12.8    16
800    13.5    17
880    13.5    17
920    12.8    17
880    12    17
880    12.8    18
880    12.8    18
840    12.8    19
880    13.5    19
880    12.8    19
880    12.8    19
800    12.8    20
800    13.5    20
840    13.5    20
800    12.8    21
840    13.5    21

Spark plugs are only 15,000km old. Coils next guess?

Latest auto-scan below for reference.


Code:
Monday,21,December,2020,20:17:49:17021
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Data version: 20201125 DS322.1
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VIN: WVWZZZ3CZAE030468   License Plate: B38TT
Mileage: 137550km-85469mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 3C-VW46 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 22 25 36 3C 42 44 46 47 52 53
          55 62 65 6D 72

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZAE030468   Mileage: 137550km-85469miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (BWS)       Labels: 03H-906-032-BLV.clb
   Part No SW: 03H 906 032 FR    HW: 03H 906 032 AB
   Component: CC3.6-FSI-7MH   G   4854 
   Revision: 5GH04---    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 0000175
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 77ABEE3D33C96363428-8022

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 012 E    HW: 02E 927 770 AJ
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     440 1905 
   Revision: 04844002    Serial number: 00000906061395
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 127DBFA9386BA64BD56-8046

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels:. 3C0-614-109-C4.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 614 109 AF    HW: 3C0 614 109 AF
   Component: J104    C4 440 V2   0015 
   Revision: --025---    Serial number: 00000795392275
   Coding: 0001443
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 629DAF69884B96CB056-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 3C0-907-044.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 044 EB    HW: 3C0 907 044 EB
   Component: ClimatronicPQ46 133 1010 
   Revision: 00133026    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6597B4759965E1F3E04-8030

1 Fault Found:
01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238)
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00111110
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 149
                    Mileage: 137035 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.12.09
                    Time: 06:00:00


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E    HW: 3C8 937 049 E
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602 
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000003221884
   Coding: E68C8F0F40041A00470A00000F000000000B59435C400100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 05124 123 12345
   VCID: 33331A2D67314F43BE0-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C2 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 110709 022  0601 
   Coding: 00046997
   Shop #: WSC 05124 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS     040809 054  0402 
   Coding: 00471277
   Shop #: WSC 05124 

2 Faults Found:
02071 - Local Databus
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 139
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.25 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01520 - Rain and Light Recognition Sensor (G397)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 8
                    Reset counter: 139
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.00 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 3C8-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 919 475 A    HW: 3C8 919 475
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H07 0009 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 08740920400943
   Coding: 100102
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 323D1F29942B464BB56-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 T    HW: 5N0 959 655 T
   Component: J234__007 VW10 HI   2118 
   Revision: 25018000    Serial number: 003LDP2K9X52 
   Coding: 0012343
   Shop #: WSC 00280 959 94420
   VCID: 4EC56BD9ECD302ABB1E-801A

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS635521849

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS690121899

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS6ADF1V8KR

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS6J2QLV8KR

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 3C0-953-549-SW25.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 953 549 AJ    HW: 3C0 953 549 AJ
   Component: J0527               0030 
   Revision: 00032000    Serial number: 3C9953507CN   
   Coding: 0001812
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 74B1D93122BF087B67A-8020

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K0 959 542   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS   H08 0010 
   Coding: 00000131
   Shop #: WSC 00000 

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 3C8 920 881     HW: 3C8 920 881
   Component: KOMBI         H02 1109 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 110F210000
   Shop #: WSC 35942 002 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05733
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW32.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC7497CFBCE8BCD6-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 BL    HW: 7N0 907 530 AJ
   Component: J533  Gateway H51 1682 
   Revision:   H51       Serial number: 15111300F12923
   Coding: 462007
   Shop #: WSC 19460 666 12345
   VCID: 7BA3F20D03E14703260-802E

2 Faults Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 133549 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.09.14
                    Time: 07:52:55

03175 - Invalid Data Set
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 208
                    Mileage: 133549 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.09.13
                    Time: 19:58:02


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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 0BS 907 554 A    HW: 0BS 907 554 A
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      4013 
   Coding: 0000005
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 44D149F1329FF8FB17A-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 433 B    HW: 3AA 959 433 B
   Component:    IMMO         052 0407 
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   VCID: 38292D017E57AC1B8B2-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 G
   Component:    ELV          027 0380
   3C0905861G     ELV          027 0380   

1 Fault Found:
02827 - Wake-Up request via ESP
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 22
                    Reset counter: 169
                    Mileage: 133591 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.09.14
                    Time: 17:36:18


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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: 3C0-959-760.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 760 E    HW: 3C0 959 760 E
   Component: Sitzverstellung     1101 
   Revision: 00005000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2F3B165D8B196BA3DA8-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 566 C    HW: 4G0 907 566
   Component: J769  SWA MasterH02 0010 
   Revision: 00H02000    Serial number: 6PZ 010 316-09
   Coding: 0001173
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 392F2805455DB51374C-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 907 568 C
   Component: J0770_SWA_Slave_H02 0010

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6PZ 010 316-29

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 5F29.10.1300H02000AMS15346ÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: S15346ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 701 A    HW: 3C0 959 793 C
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0534 
   Revision: 12110009    Serial number: 0007678305
   Coding: 0017B7
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3537243565C55173904-8060

   Slave Driver:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AB    HW: 1K0 959 794 L
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  004 0307
   Serial number: 00000001002999     
   Coding: 000090

1 Fault Found:
67330 - Switch for Central Locking
          B122D 29 [008] - Signal Implausible
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 14
                    Reset counter: 157


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 H
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 143    2901 
   Revision: 00H17000   
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 2F3B165D8B196BA3DA8-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 3C0-959-433-46.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 433 B    HW: 3AA 959 433 B
   Component:    KSG PQ47 ELV 052 0645 
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 18900A00D1034E7F6C0295157008DFCE607801
   Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
   VCID: 38292D017E57AC1B8B2-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  004 0611

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
   Component: Innenraumueberw.004 0611

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 035 456     HW: 5K0 035 456
   Component: KonzernAmp 8K H06 0340 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: BP218198610877
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst8KanalBNO2 A01003
   ROD: EV_AudioVerst8KanalBNO2_VW32.rod
   VCID: 678BBE7D6FE9F3E3D28-8032

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 702 A    HW: 3C0 959 792 C
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0534 
   Revision: 14110009    Serial number: 0007707005
   Coding: 0017B6
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3635233978C35A6B99E-8062

   Slave Passenger:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AB    HW: 1K0 959 795 L
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  004 0307
   Serial number: 00000000997232     
   Coding: 000090

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 5N0-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 907 801 C    HW: 3C8 907 801 C
   Component: J540 EPB3  VW-13618 0005 
   Revision:   010       Serial number: 00000000059064
   Coding: 0000057
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 2A0D0749B0FB0E8B0D6-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C    HW: 5M0 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0142 
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 2344385
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 34311931623F487BA7A-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 A  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0004 
   Coding: 00000035

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 A  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    0004 
   Coding: 00000035

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 273 B    HW: 3AA 907 273 B
   Component: RDKBERU30     H08 0008 
   Serial number: 10000000008737
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 003010
   ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_003.rod
   VCID: 33331A2D6BB14F43BE0-8066

1 Fault Found:
8401152 - Radio Frequency Interference
          C105C 00 [008] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 77
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 135363 km
                    Date: 2020.10.28
                    Time: 08:20:54

                    Vehicle speed: 48 km/h
                    Outside temperature: 12.5 °C
                    Reception level antenna 1: 330 mV
                    Offset level antenna 1: 220 mV


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Address 6D: Trunk Elect.        Labels: 3C9-827-383.clb
   Part No SW: 3C9 827 383 G    HW: 3C9 827 383 G
   Component: J605  HECKDECKEL    0730 
   Revision: 00H27001   
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 3537243569455173904-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C9 827 384 G
   Component: J756  HECKDECKEL    0730

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 0900H27001001C0075ÿ

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:45, VBatt start/end: 11.7V/11.9V. VIgn 11.9V)-----
 
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Bumping this with additional information, which has led me to believe fouled injectors are causing the problem. Ignition timing retard got to -7.5 degree KW in cylinder 2 which is referenced in the log below.

I wasn't able to access any data from measuring block 13 as all I got were blank fields?

In terms of fuel pressure, I performed the fuel rail pressure test using measuring block 106 but the pressure went down 2 bar (from 40 to 38 over two minutes) instead of increasing?

Timing retardation in second gear WOT (measuring blocks 021 and 022)


Timing RetardationTiming RetardationTiming RetardationTiming RetardationTiming RetardationTiming Retardation
Cylinder 1Cylinder 2Cylinder 3Cylinder 4Cylinder 5Cylinder 6
°KW°KW°KW°KW°KW°KW
0​
0​
0​
0​
0​
0​
0​
-2.3​
-0.8​
0​
0​
0​
0​
-1.5​
0​
0​
0​
0​
0​
-0.8​
0​
0​
0​
0​
0​
-5.3​
-3​
0​
0​
0​
0​
-5.3​
-3​
0​
0​
0​
0​
-4.5​
-2.3​
0​
0​
0​
0​
-6.8​
-1.5​
0​
0​
0​
0​
-6.8​
-1.5​
0​
-6​
0​
0​
-6.8​
-1.5​
-7.5​
-6​
0​
-3​
-3.8​
-1.5​
-7.5​
-6​
0​
-3​
-3.8​
-1.5​
-7.5​
-6​
0​
-3​
-3.8​
-1.5​
-7.5​
-2.3​
0​
-3​
-3.8​
-1.5​
-7.5​
-5.3​
-3​
-3​
-3.8​
-1.5​
-7.5​
-5.3​
-3​
0​
0​
0​
0​
-5.3​
-3​
0​
0​
0​
0​
0​
0​
0​
-3.8​
0​
0​
0​
0​


I also logged a number of misfires on cylinder 5 on a gentle drive this morning.

Looking at replacing the injectors, but any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Jono
 
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Soaking injectors in ultrasound tank while pulsed in distilled water makes a big difference as does running small amounts of MMO and MOS2 in fuel often too the lift and HPP pumps will love you for it
 
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Thanks. Any idea why no values are present in measuring block 013? I’m wanting to take a look at the injector values.
 
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Any idea why no values are present in measuring block 013?
Because there's nothing defined for that group in the ECU's software.

I’m wanting to take a look at the injector values.
As a general rule, gasoline engines do not have anything to look at for the individual injectors.

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If it were me I'd change injectors with all new ones.........and add a Teflon sealer on all o-ring intake connections.

Additionally.......
You would be surprised what a halogen detector microphone can find when spraying a non contaminating brake clean in intake & within engine off not running and adding low PSI compressed air at all connection points.

Test done cold and hot!

Are you sure no false air on brake servo/booster circuit?
 
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Many thanks Jack and Uwe :)

I’ll need to double check the air issue but I’ll replace the injectors and report back.
 
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