VW PASSAT CC IMMOBILIZER ACTIVE ERROR

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I have attached the autoscan for assistance in repairing this car.
when active the car will not start.

I notice the central Electric has 1 fault code 01044 found, however i am not sure if it is responsible for the car not starting at times.

seeking guidance

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Dealer/Shop Name: Shift Performance 

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZBE722292   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 3C-VW46 (3C0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 14 15 16 17 19 25 2E 36 42 44 46 4F 52 53
          56 62 72 77

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZBE722292   Mileage: 56190km-34914miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (CCZ)       Labels:. 06J-907-115-CCZ.clb
   Part No SW: 06J 906 026 FB    HW: 06J 907 309 
   Component: MED17.5             5844  
   Revision: AAH18---    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 040400101C070160
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 6FE9B6C87EAC8CFEE2-803A

1 Fault Found:
053271 - Please Check Fault Codes in Control Module for ABS Brakes 
               U1017 - 015 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101111
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 56190 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.11.20
                    Time: 14:03:01

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 879 /min
                    Load: 42.3 %
                    Speed: 2.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 78.0°C
                    Temperature: 56.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.208 V

Readiness: 0000 0001

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 053 M    HW: 02E 927 770 AT
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     541 2202  
   Revision: 06454104    Serial number: 00001811220429
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 04940 001 00001
   VCID: 1F498608CE8C5C7E12-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels:. 3C0-614-109-C4.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 614 109 AF    HW: 3C0 614 109 AF
   Component: J104    C4 440 V2   0015  
   Revision: --026---    Serial number: 00000104321416
   Coding: 0003443
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 62CFCFFCBD7E31967D-8036

2 Faults Found:
00283 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Left  (G47) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 135
                    Mileage: 55913 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.10.05
                    Time: 15:30:01

             Freeze Frame:
                    Speed: 5.0 km/h
                    Hex Value: 0x0001
                    Voltage: 14.00 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00011111
                    Count: 12
                    Hex Value: 0x0000

00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 175
                    Mileage: 56139 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.11.03
                    Time: 14:57:07

             Freeze Frame:
                    Speed: 12.0 km/h
                    Hex Value: 0x00C5
                    Voltage: 13.25 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00011111
                    Count: 13
                    Hex Value: 0x0000


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 BT    HW: 5K0 907 044 BT
   Component: Climatronic   H15 0709  
   Revision: 00003001    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01006
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW46.rod
   VCID: 7EF79B8CE1C6F57679-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 S    HW: 3C8 937 049 S
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H53 3101  
   Revision: 00H53000    Serial number: 00000004151505
   Coding: E1848F8B00041A0047970F00170000000008FB475C40017C174000000000
   Shop #: WSC 05124 000 00000
   VCID: 418D207018B84A8E44-8014

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C8 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 300610 010  0603  
   Coding: 00046997
   Shop #: WSC 05124  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS     090910 054  0403  
   Coding: 00209133
   Shop #: WSC 05124  

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 3C8-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 919 475 A    HW: 3C8 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H07 0009  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 08791024971444
   Coding: 100101
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 326F7FBC6D1EE116CD-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 14: Susp. Elect. (J250)       Labels:. 3C0-907-376.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 376 A    HW: 3C0 907 376 
   Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H07 0070  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 03091003240001
   Coding: 010180
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 27599EE856DC94BE6A-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 R    HW: 5N0 959 655 R
   Component: J234__302 VW10 HI   1918  
   Revision: 22014000    Serial number: 003K0PHNGUW.  
   Coding: 0012338
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 4C9301442FFA97E6A7-8018

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS649072270 

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS665142210 

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS6DBV2E9KJ 

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS69S43E9KJ 

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 3C0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 3C5 953 501 BG    HW: 5K0 953 569 T
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   009 0136  
   Revision: FF010038    Serial number: 20100906100100
   Coding: 0982270002
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
   ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
   VCID: 6BD1A2D882B470DECE-803E

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D    HW: 3C8 959 537 D  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TK6  H06 0022 
   Coding: E20000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 3C8 920 970 K    HW: 3C8 920 970 K
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0305  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 440F00
   Shop #: WSC 05314 115 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04052
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW46.rod
   VCID: 346379A49F0AEF26DF-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 3C0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 530 N    HW: 3C0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway   H14 0172  
   Revision:   H14       Serial number: 1021G10903011D
   Coding: FDA8FF06000613009003
   Shop #: WSC 07737 898 09549
   VCID: 2C5361C48F3AB7E687-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 AR    HW: 3C0 959 433 AR
   Component:    IMMO         043 0383  
   Revision: 00043000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   VCID: 7AFF979C35EED95645-802E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 H
   Component:    ELV          028 0380
   3C0905861H     ELV          028 0380   

2 Faults Found:
01176 - Key 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 7
                    Reset counter: 136
                    Mileage: 55962 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.10.13
                    Time: 20:31:07

01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 172
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 C    HW: 5N0 035 342 C
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0111  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7668564896    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 27599EE856DC94BE6A-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: 3C0-959-760.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 959 760     HW: 3C8 959 760 
   Component: J810                0801  
   Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 72EFBFBC6D9EA1160D-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 AG    HW: 3C0 959 793 A
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0308  
   Revision: 12101005    Serial number: 0001484667
   Coding: 0013B7
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU42BroseDriveSide A03004
   ROD: EV_DCU42BroseDriveSide.rod
   VCID: 7CF39184F7DAE76657-8028

   Slave Driver: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 704 C    HW: 3C0 959 794 B  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  004 0401 
   Serial number: 00000001649078      
   Coding: 000090

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 209    3001  
   Revision: 00H17000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 316D70B0A818DA0EB4-8064

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101101
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 7
                    Reset counter: 176
                    Mileage: 56190 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.11.20
                    Time: 14:07:37

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 13.13 V
                        DU
                    Temperature: 55.0°C
                    RPM: 883 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Count: 0


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 3C0-959-433-46.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 AR    HW: 3C0 959 433 AR
   Component:    KSG PQ46 ELV 043 0612  
   Revision: 00043000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 19910A0001860E76360494157008DFCE507801
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 7AFF979C35EED95645-802E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 A
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H11 9004

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  004 0611

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
   Component: Innenraumueberw.004 0611

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 532     HW: 3C0 907 951 
   Component: EZE_2         H14 0172  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 1021G10903011D
   Coding: 01030100
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 66C7D3EC91564DB691-8032

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 591     HW: 6R0 959 591 
   Component: J245/J878  H04 0054 
   Serial number: 032400046891        
   Coding: 000006

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 170
                    Mileage: 55958 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.10.10
                    Time: 22:28:55


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 AC    HW: 3C0 959 792 A
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0308  
   Revision: 14101005    Serial number: 0001477412
   Coding: 0013B6
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU52BrosePasseSide A03004
   ROD: EV_DCU52BrosePasseSide.rod
   VCID: 79FD8890F8E8D24E4C-802C

   Slave Passenger: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 703 C    HW: 3C0 959 795 B  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  004 0401 
   Serial number: 00000001642926      
   Coding: 000090

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 5N0-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 907 801 E    HW: 3C8 907 801 E
   Component: J540 EPB3  VW-15417 0007  
   Revision:   011       Serial number: 00000000385530
   Coding: 0000057
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 2C5361C48F3AB7E687-8078

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101101
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 7
                    Reset counter: 176
                    Mileage: 55913 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.10.05
                    Time: 15:30:01

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 13.50 V
                    Count: 108
                    Speed: 4.0 km/h
                    Hex Value: 0x12E0
                    Hex Value: 0x0001
                    Hex Value: 0x0101


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Address 56: Radio (J0503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 035 190     HW: 5K0 035 190 
   Component: Radio RCD510  040 0167  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z3K3554036
   Coding: 0100041004
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 62CFCFFC7D7E31967D-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J738)       Labels:. 1K8-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 051 730 D    HW: 1K8 051 730 D
   Component: Telefon       H03 6900  
   Revision: 00003000    Serial number: 00000A07806233
   Coding: 402120
   Shop #: WSC 07737 898 09549
   VCID: 285B9DD45BC29BC663-807C

No fault code found.

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The immobilizer in this car is physically part of the Central Convenience module.
You can see that they both have the same hardware part number: HW: 3C0 959 433 AR

How often does this problem occur?

"01176 - Key 008 - Implausible Signal" can be caused by a bad reader coil, or a poor connection between the module and the coil.

-Uwe-

PS: Got you verified, moving to Car Repair Support.
 
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Car this old I'd over lay the D2 or consider immobilizer removal in engine ECU.

Stabilant 22a should be applied to connection's.
 
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Can you post Measuring block 001,002,003 of 25-Immobilizer controller?
 
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www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: Shift Performance

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZBE722292 License Plate: PCS6259
Mileage: 56193 Repair Order:



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Address 25: Immobilizer (3C0 959 433 AR)

17:58:40 Group 001: System Status
Yes Engine Start permitted
Yes Engine (ECU) responds
No Key Status
2.0 Number of adapted Keys

17:58:40 Group 002: Key && Adaptation Status
Yes Variable Code authorized
Yes Key Status (Transponder)
Yes Fixed Code authorized
6.0 Immobilizer Status

17:58:40 Group 003: Lock Times && System Status
0.0 Lock Time Immobilizer
0.0 Lock Time Engine
0.0 Lock Time Transponder
0.0 Immobilizer (LED) Status
 
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The immobilizer in this car is physically part of the Central Convenience module.
You can see that they both have the same hardware part number: HW: 3C0 959 433 AR

How often does this problem occur?

"01176 - Key 008 - Implausible Signal" can be caused by a bad reader coil, or a poor connection between the module and the coil.

-Uwe-

PS: Got you verified, moving to Car Repair Support.
very often now
 
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Can you post Measuring block 001,002,003 of 25-Immobilizer controller?
Tuesday,07,July,2020,18:01:41:12672
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: Shift Performance

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZBE722292 License Plate: PCS6259
Mileage: 56193 Repair Order:



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Address 25: Immobilizer (3C0 959 433 AR)

17:58:40 Group 001: System Status
Yes Engine Start permitted
Yes Engine (ECU) responds
No Key Status
2.0 Number of adapted Keys

17:58:40 Group 002: Key && Adaptation Status
Yes Variable Code authorized
Yes Key Status (Transponder)
Yes Fixed Code authorized
6.0 Immobilizer Status

17:58:40 Group 003: Lock Times && System Status
0.0 Lock Time Immobilizer
0.0 Lock Time Engine
0.0 Lock Time Transponder
0.0 Immobilizer (LED) Status
 
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This is very strange, Key status is not good , but all authorized, I would suspect something is wrong with CCM

Group 001: System Status
Yes Engine Start permitted
Yes Engine (ECU) responds
No Key Status
2.0 Number of adapted Keys

002: Key && Adaptation Status
Yes Variable Code authorized
Yes Key Status (Transponder)
Yes Fixed Code authorized
6.0 Immobilizer Status
 
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This is very strange, Key status is not good , but all authorized, I would suspect something is wrong with CCM

Group 001: System Status
Yes Engine Start permitted
Yes Engine (ECU) responds
No Key Status
2.0 Number of adapted Keys

002: Key && Adaptation Status
Yes Variable Code authorized
Yes Key Status (Transponder)
Yes Fixed Code authorized
6.0 Immobilizer Status
agreed i was thinking that.
 
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I don't know for sure but it sounds like you are having a security issue. I don't have security issues experience with Jettas, but you may need to purchase a new computer and flash the SKIM before removing old computer. I don't know if VCDS offers this service, if not you will have to buy even more expensive software. There is also the option of buying a computer with a deleted SKIM. Don't know if this is exact
my your issue but something to consider especially if you are stuck in a no start.
 
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I don't know for sure but it sounds like you are having a security issue. I don't have security issues experience with Jettas, but you may need to purchase a new computer and flash the SKIM before removing old computer. I don't know if VCDS offers this service, if not you will have to buy even more expensive software. There is also the option of buying a computer with a deleted SKIM. Don't know if this is exact
my your issue but something to consider especially if you are stuck in a no start.
VW is not Dodge or Chrysler and do not have SKIM.
They have immobilizer system which can be programed with out flashing ECU/Immobilizer system , and his car is Passat not Jetta .
 
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