Replaced OEM headlights wirth Winpower lights. DRL/Turn signal problem

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Vehicle 2015 Passat SEL TDI

To start out with it is a direct replacement and came with an adapter from the cars OEM output to the back of the new headlights.
Love the light output on low and high beams and NO blinding opposing traffic.

I do have one problem which Winpower has not been able to fix for me. These lights come with a LED DRL strip which also doubles as a yellow sequential turn signal.
All works fine in daytime running. But at night both the DRL/Turn signals now constantly flicker. When the left or right turn signal is activated it works as it is supposed to but goes back to flickering when the turn signal is turned off.

Has anyone experienced this? What did you do to fix it?
Failing that can someone assist me in accessing the suggested light setting please. I have the Hex-V2 Enthusiast VCDS.

Thanks in advance

A poster on the TDI club gave me this suggestion:

It sounds like you have a similar issue with the PWM signal for parking light. Because their strips aren't designed for that input level they then flash, probably asynchronously. I'm a few thousand miles from my Passat right now, and can't remember if this is even possible with the NMS Passat BCM.

If it is possible, with VCDS look under the BCM and somewhere near middle or end of the long coding helper pages there are some dedicated to output levels for lights. If there, you'd want to try lowering your front turns as parking lights to 0% brightness. That would end up cutting all power and they strips going dark until the turns activate. Otherwise you could play with turning the level up to a point where they stayed on steady. This is all of course if you can, I really can't remember if it is an option. It was in the MkV Jetta because it was sold all over the world and they needed a way to change the settings based on the rules of that country.
 
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Please post an Auto-Scan so people can see how the car is equipped and configured.

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Code:
Monday,22,June,2020,13:05:19:59997
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
[url]www.Ross-Tech.com[/url]


VIN: 1VWCV7A33FC083346   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: A3-VW41 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 2B 2E 36 37 42 44 46 47 4F
          52 56 62 65 72 77

VIN: 1VWCV7A33FC083346   Mileage: 73910km-45925miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Not registered 0011
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CVCA)       Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04L 997 016 D    HW: 04L 907 309 K
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   X20 9466  
   Revision: 8AX20---    
   Coding: 011D0012832410089000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L997016D 004002
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L997016.rod
   VCID: 34311FAA3EB5CA7B873-8060

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 1 1 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 061 T    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     531 4518  
   Revision: 05653104    Serial number: 00001501140297
   Coding: 0000024
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 2517F2EE89EFA3F300D-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BS    HW: 1K0 907 379 BS
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0166  
   Revision: 00H46001    
   Coding: C54BC0F5492A00FDA30E03E8921F0042A1180012
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 04518F6A2E15BAFB773-8050

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 E    HW: 5K0 959 434 
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 092 1202  
   Revision: 00092000    Serial number: 0357191436
   Coding: 130C0C
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02717
   ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G_A02_VW31.rod
   VCID: 372B28A62FC32163A21-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 561 907 044 AR    HW: 561 907 044 AR
   Component: Climatronic   H03 0808  
   Revision: 00001K01    
   Coding: 0050019012
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW411 A01001
   ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW411_VW41.rod
   VCID: 678BB8E63FE371E3F21-8032

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 AE    HW: 5K0 937 087 AE
   Component: BCM PQ35 H+   122 0174  
   Revision: BL122001    
   Coding: EF200E3BE8296AD488880201360093C807F1A0A945A085B064806004FC70
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 78A9EB9A62DDEE1B6BB-802C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 050115 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 07300A

1 Fault Found:
00323 - Vehicle Inclination Sensor (G384) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 236
                    Mileage: 63275 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.09.26
                    Time: 11:02:02

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.25 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 AB    HW: 5C0 959 655 AB
   Component: AirbagVW10    500 0975  
   Serial number: 003LZD05JU0/  
   Coding: 00004D38
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 001030
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 72BDD9B20421844B55F-8026

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B    HW: 5C6 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0046 
   Serial number: 6940000Y150001B8F30B
   Coding: 303047

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME5825584DZZZ0

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME72372E4CZZZ2

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3516KSME75645A34ZZZX

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3526KSME01117834ZZZF

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Fahr  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3556LSME584B1332ZZZV

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Beif  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3566LSME785D1332ZZZ.

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 BR    HW: 5K0 953 569 AH
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0162  
   Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20150109200269
   Coding: 001A140000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 7EA5FD824079D02B217-802A

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D    HW: 3C8 959 537 D  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-YVJ  H06 0022 
   Serial number: 00000000000000429777
   Coding: E30000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 561 920 870 E    HW: 561 920 870 E
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0813  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 321E00
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW41.rod
   VCID: 1B63D416B32B6503A69-804E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AR    HW: 7N0 907 530 AM
   Component: J533  Gateway H55 1653  
   Revision:   H55       Serial number: 27021503000226
   Coding: 461000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 528 97295
   VCID: 0059837A3A0DA6DB53B-8054

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 73915 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.06.22
                    Time: 13:44:33


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0813  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 60848 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC1D22CF14C8BEDF-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:* 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 C    HW: 5K0 905 861 C
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H21 0240  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 15000045397003
   Coding: 4900000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X_VW01.rod
   VCID: 303913BACAADF65BE3B-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3
Cannot be reached

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 561 959 760 B    HW: 561 959 760 B
   Component: MEM-FS        H04 0183  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000137231483
   Coding: 00581B0000000000000021010100202020202120202020
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 221DE9F294C154CB65F-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 Q    HW: 3C0 035 684 Q
   Component: RNS-MID       H27 5382  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7R9022018
   Coding: 2409004201000084000B
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 313F16BEC127FF53EC5-8064

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 
   Component: NAR V12  8534 

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 701 A    HW: 3C0 959 793 C
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0525  
   Revision: 12110009    Serial number: 0009312413
   Coding: 0405FD
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ25BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ25BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 1C61D70AB625623BAF3-8048

   Slave Driver: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 811 B    HW: 561 959 811 B  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5470 
   Serial number: 14102630150309141346
   Coding: 800000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 215    3501  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 392F2E9E15573713545-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 5C6 035 456 C    HW: 5C6 035 456 C
   Component: KonzernAmp10K H08 6831  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: EAA098C0037445
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3 S01001
   ROD: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3_VW41.rod
   VCID: 2809FBDAF27DBE9B3BB-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 7N0 907 530 AM
   Component: EZE_2         H55 1653  
   Revision:   H55       Serial number: 27021503000226
   Coding: 01030108
   Shop #: WSC 00000 528 97295
   VCID: 6FBBD0C61793A9A3BA1-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 591 A    HW: 561 959 591 A
   Component: J245 P05 9BA3  H08 0005 
   Serial number: 53388786011418200998
   Coding: 181100

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 561 919 204 B    HW: 561 919 204 B
   Component: Analoguhr  009 0005 

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 702 A    HW: 3C0 959 792 C
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0525  
   Revision: 14110009    Serial number: 0009317388
   Coding: 0405FC
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ25BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ25BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 1D67DA0EAD3F6B3358D-8048

   Slave Passenger: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 812 B    HW: 561 959 812 B  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5470 
   Serial number: 14202631150303103115
   Coding: 800000

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 Q    HW: 3C0 035 684 Q
   Component: RNS-MID       H27 5382  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7R9022018
   Coding: 2409004201000084000B
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   VCID: 313F16BEC127FF53EC5-8064

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 
   Component: NAR V12  8534 

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-65.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 AE    HW: 5K0 937 087 AE
   Component: RDK           122 0821  
   Coding: 018704
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 78A9EB9A62DDEE1B6BB-802C

1 Fault Found:
01521 - Sensor for Tire Pressure 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 73915 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.06.22
                    Time: 13:44:31


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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 5N0-035-729.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 729 E    HW: 5N0 035 729 E
   Component: TELEFON       H07 0593  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007666871335
   Coding: 0A10030080010110
   Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVUMI 001007
   ROD: EV_UHVUMI.rod
   VCID: 323D19B2C4A1C44B95F-8066

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 02:09, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/12.0V)-----------
 
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 AE HW: 5K0 937 087 AE
Component: BCM PQ35 H+ 122 0174
Revision: BL122001
Coding: EF200E3BE8296AD488880201360093C807F1A0A945A085B064806004FC70
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
VCID: 78A9EB9A62DDEE1B6BB-802C

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
Component: RLS 050115 05 54 0403
Coding: 07300A

1 Fault Found:
00323 - Vehicle Inclination Sensor (G384)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 236
Mileage: 63275 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2019.09.26
Time: 11:02:02

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 14.25 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF
Hi. Your BCM is PQ35. We have no Passats here but we do have Jettas with the same BCM, acording to my screen captures, Byte 24 in Module HEX09 should do the trick.

You would need to set a HEX value of 64 (100 decimal) there , that should disable the DRL dimming when used as parking lights. But you already have that value. Maybe you could try disabling the function (bit 7), also in the same byte.

 
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Gracias Csalvarr, I'll print this out and give it a try this evening when it cools down here.
On the verge of sounding real dumb, where it now is at "92". I would enter the number "100"?
I'll see where Bit 7 is set and if checked, I'll uncheck it.

Your suggestion seems to sound like the one I got on the TDI club. Just better explained.
 
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Yes, you should put 100 in that box, that would translate to a HEX value of 64. But I see you already have that value in your coding in that byte, asuming you see the same screen as the Jetta I posted.

I've also seen values of 131 to get full brightness when the DRL is LED based (in a Golf mk7 for example), but I've never seen it in an older BCM, but you might try that value also.

Disabling bit 7 should kill the function, but I don't know how street legal that would be (you'd have no parking lights at night if you only rely on DRL for that function).

Let me know if you solve it. I had to resort to wiring changes on some of those chinese headlingts in the past, because they're wired to be plug and play with a specific wiring and bulbs in mind. Usually this is full halogen in all the bulbs. If your car has the same connector but differs in how those wires are used, or if uses PWM in some of the signals instead of full duty 12v, it might make the headling malfunction.
 
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csalvarr, sorry for the tardy reply. Tried everything and no change.
Bit 7 is/was unchecked
Just wondering if I should change the HEX value of 64 (100 decimal) value from 100% to 0% to see what may happen.
 
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You could try that, it should disable DRL too that way.

Could you post a video of the lights when they malfunction? And another question, did your car had the turn signals as parking lights at night at a lower percentage with the OEM headlights? We're trying to fix this assuming the DRL is the guilty one here, buy it could also be the turn signals.

Maybe you could do an admap of module 09 and post it... https://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/controller-channels-map.php
 
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My laptop died fatally and just got myself going again. Will have to see how I can do video and even post it.
I believe I did mention that this only happens when the headlights are on. It's almost as if the turn signal flashing relay has a way of activating the DRL lights which should NOT even be activating when the headlights are on. There is NO error in the daytime when the DRL's are on. The turn signals then do what they are supposed to do by overriding the DRL's.
Thank you for your patience in trying to help with this.
 
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