B8.5 RS4 default ADS coding

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Hi everyone,

I recently picked up a 2015 B8.5 RS4 (in the UK) — finally scratching that NA V8 itch whilst doing the family duties! So far so awesome...

I'm new to Audi and have found the ADS behaviour just bizarre — my expectation was that the car would start with the ADS settings as I left them (in my case, in "individual"), rather than telling me it has done so but has actually defaulted to "auto" for some of the settings. What's the point in having a "sports exhaust" option if I can't have the full sound turned on from the get-go (unless I press the ADS button a load of times before I drive off)!?

My goal is to have the ADS start up in "individual" by default — I've read plently of posts discussing this, but I feel that the instructions are always directed to B8 models (and generally not the RS4, which I gather was never available in the US so presumably has less coverage in English-speaking forums).

I've got VCDS hooked up and working, but when I follow the typical steps I'm not seeing any change in behaviour...

When I started this process, I saw the following values under [09 – Cent. Elect.][Adaptation - 10]:

  • Channel 63 = 218
  • Channel 64 = 218
  • Channel 65 = 0
  • Channel 66 = 15

These values don't correspond with the key given by VCDS (i.e. 1=Comfort, 2=Auto, 3=Dynamic, 4=Individual), which is the first red flag to me. I did manage to find a few folks mention the "218" value, albeit with a slightly different arrangement (typically 0, 218, 0, 15). From what I've read, the following values should give me "individual" by default:

  • Channel 63 = 4
  • Channel 64 = 4
  • Channel 65 = 4
  • Channel 66 = 15

...except these don't seem to have any effect whatsoever! Although some of the guides mention that all four channels should be the same, I did read about channel 66 affecting available ADS options rather than the default, hence I've not touched it.

I'm not sure if I'm just doing it wrong, or if indeed the B8.5 model uses a different set of channels/values to those indicated in VCDS. I've not managed to find any relatable experiences across the various Audi forums, so I'm reaching out hoping that somebody has had the same issue.

I'd really appreciate any input, whatever the outcome... thanks in advance!
 
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Hi Uwe — sure thing, see below:

Code:
Friday,19,June,2020,14:49:57:15673
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
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VIN: WUAZZZ8K9FA901347   License Plate: 
Mileage: 49780km-30931mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 8K-AU48 (8R0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 14 15 16 17 19 1B 22 30 42 44 46 47 52 53
          56 5F 62 6C 6D 72

VIN: WUAZZZ8K9FA901347   Mileage: 49780km-30931miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1B-Active Steering -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
30-Special Function II -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (------CFSA)       Labels:. 079-907-560-CFS.clb
   Part No SW: 8T2 907 560 E    HW: 8T1 907 560 
   Component: 4.2l V8HDZ /  X04 0003  
   Revision: NAX04---    
   Coding: 1225003225A6000A3000
   Shop #: WSC 92521 052 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM42FSI0118T2907560E 001002
   ROD: EV_ECM42FSI0118T2907560E.rod
   VCID: 3E253B9ED0F4666B617-806A

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0001

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0B5-927-156.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 927 156 J    HW: 0B5 927 156 K
   Component: 0B5 42 FSIRdW H03 0005  
   Revision: --H03---    
   Coding: 000001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDL501021 001015
   ROD: EV_TCMDL501021.rod
   VCID: 44D14976BE180CBB373-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 8K0-907-379-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 379 G    HW: 8T0 907 379 G
   Component: ESP8 quattro  H09 0010  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 346DEA
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 46D5537E88A43EAB297-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 KH    HW: 8K0 907 064 KH
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H15 0711  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 05924040000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 00598566EA00D09B53B-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 754 CD    HW: 8K0 959 754 CD
   Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG  H73 0083 
   Serial number: 0818000013394012    

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 E    HW: 8K0 905 852 E
   Component: J764 ELV MLB  H40 0046 
   Serial number: 3214000188727002    

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8K2 820 043 AQ    HW: 8K2 820 043 AQ
   Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H04 0122  
   Revision: D1000000    Serial number: 01200120150362
   Coding: 4804000000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 78A9ED86B2D0985B6BB-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 DJ    HW: 8K0 907 063 DJ
   Component: BCM1 1.0      H16 0103  
   Revision: 09016001    Serial number: 00000983746102
   Coding: 0600001000349FF03D8140C3000019090F9DC70A23090201000008004400010200020034000000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 7AADF78E8CDC8A4B1DF-802E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K2 955 119 A    HW: 8T2 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS 150115  H06 0080 
   Serial number: SWF15011155014      
   Coding: 00FD11

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 C    HW: 8U0 955 559 B  Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
   Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0004 
   Serial number: 20078252            
   Coding: 02005D

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AQ    HW: 8K0 941 531 AQ
   Component: E1 - LDS  H03 0031 
   Serial number: 00000000002012140030

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8K5 941 329     HW: 8K5 941 329 
H01 0031 

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 8K5 941 329     HW: 8K5 941 329 
H01 0031 

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658     HW: 4H0 907 658 
   Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor  H03 0003 
   Serial number: 9DA80B87000000000001

No fault code found.

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Address 14: Susp. Elect.        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 376     HW: 8T0 907 376 A
   Component: J250 DRC FahrwerH01 0030  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00875015750500
   Coding: 0000000
   Shop #: WSC 60452 002 1048576
   VCID: 7CA1F1968AE8B47B0F3-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 8K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 N    HW: 8K0 959 655 N
   Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H48 0610  
   Serial number: 003KFDC5DTS9  
   Coding: 30544435363030303030554A3052384B3053
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
   ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_003_AU48.rod
   VCID: 48C95D46823028DBDBB-801C

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 6334MSME4C79112FO

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6344MSME4C396578S

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 6352QSME534E1264G

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6362QSME0D4C0372J

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 63732SME164C0866%

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 63832SME164C3C588

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 M    HW: 8K0 953 568 M
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H04 0005  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 90372NLE000AF 
   Coding: 000037
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 44D14976BE980CBB373-8010

   Component: E221 - MFL  H03 0004 

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 920 983 D    HW: 8K0 920 983 D
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H35 0567  
   Revision: 00100000    Serial number: 67+596GDF     
   Coding: 33AF1100BB012600010000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 363523BEF844AE2BB97-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 468 N    HW: 8R0 907 468 C
   Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H11 0060  
   Revision: 1Y080030    Serial number: 3041Y1511607E0
   Coding: 80E3031600
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 4ACD674E9CBCDACBCDF-801E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 915 181     HW: 8T0 915 181 
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8041 
   Serial number: 8012025503          

No fault code found.

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Address 1B: Active Steering (J792)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 144 M    HW: 8K0 907 144 M
   Component: DYNAMIKLENK.  H06 0730  
   Revision: 52001005    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 030000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 392F2882C95A4153545-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels: 8K0-907-163.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 163 B    HW: 8K0 907 163 A
   Component: 4 Wheel Drive H15 0100  
   Serial number: 000901150001016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelDiffeQSPCAN 003019
   ROD: EV_AllWheelDiffeQSPCAN.rod
   VCID: 2F3B16DA079E9FE3FA1-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 30: Special Function II (J843)       Labels: 8K0-907-440.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 440 B    HW: 8K0 907 440 
   Component: STS           H04 0020  
   Revision: S0H04000    Serial number: 00000000116459
   Coding: 01010101000000000001000102
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2D070CD20D12EDF3C8D-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 793 P    HW: 8T0 959 793 G
   Component: TSG FA        H10 0305  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 011C12205C21410001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 56F5833E58048E2B597-8002

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 8K0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 909 144 J    HW: 8K0 909 144 B
   Component: RCEPS         H41 0509  
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 0029149803
   Coding: 010000010001
   Shop #: WSC 06324 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPSAU48X 008016
   ROD: EV_RCEPSAU48X_008.rod
   VCID: 38292D86F2D0585BABB-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 KH    HW: 8K0 907 064 KH
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H15 0711  
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0355413974    
   Coding: 013B0E22A0B938958330023280000000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 00598566EA00D09B53B-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 951 177 
   Component: DWA-Sensor  H02 0040 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 C    HW: 8K0 959 591 
   Component: J245 PS151  H08 0043 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 C    HW: 8K0 959 591 
   Component: J394 PS240  H08 0043 

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:. 8T0-035-223-BOM.clb
   Part No SW: 8T1 035 223 A    HW: 8T1 035 223 A
   Component: DSP Prem      H05 0030  
   Revision: 00005001    Serial number: 94813039226206
   VCID: 2D070CD20D12EDF3C8D-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 792 P    HW: 8T0 959 792 G
   Component: TSG BF        H10 0305  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 011C12205E21410001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 55F784324502853350D-8000

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (----)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 N    HW: 8K0 907 801 J
   Component: EPB-4         H02 0005  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000001603875
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001028
   ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_AU48.rod
   VCID: 3A2D378ECCDC4A4B5DF-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4G0 035 061 Q    HW: 4G0 035 061 
   Component: Radio U DAB   H60 0150  
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 109AL0F8001307
   Coding: 010103010000000001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2B0302CA3306E3C3D69-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 8R2 035 666 H    HW: 8R2 035 666 H
   Component: H-BN-EU       H48 0897  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 515AZ0F7507670
   Coding: 120101010306A1EF05808B5E00000403E40000020000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3E253B9ED074666B617-806A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 CH
   Component: EUR 2014  2004 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 919 604 A    HW: 8R0 919 604 A
   Component: DU7 High  H42 0104 
   Serial number: A130AF0F3234610     

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 611 N    HW: 8T0 919 611 J
   Component: E0380 Bedient  H02 0030 
   Serial number: 00000002102381      

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 G
   Component: CD-Database  5950 

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 795 Q    HW: 8T0 959 795 H
   Component: TSG HL        H08 0305  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 010C12204021210001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 59EF8802291AA153745-800C

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 8T0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 441 C    HW: 4L0 907 441 B
   Component: J772__Rearview      0040  
   Revision: --H09---    Serial number: 525PA8-J4Y90D6
   Coding: 1021007
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 38292D86FE50585BABB-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605)       Labels: 8K9-827-851.clb
   Part No SW: 8K9 827 851 C    HW: 8K9 827 851 C
   Component: J605  Master  H53 0330  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 8K9827851C    
   VCID: 3E253B9ED074666B617-806A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K9 827 852 C    HW: 8K9 827 852 C
   Component: J756  Slave  H53 0330 
   Serial number: 8K9827852C          

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 8K0-959-794.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 795 Q    HW: 8T0 959 795 H
   Component: TSG HR        H08 0305  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 010C12204021210001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 59EF8802291AA153745-800C

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 02:13, VBatt start/end: 11.8V/11.7V. VIgn 11.8V)-----
I've reset the channel values to stock (i.e. 218, 218, 0, 15).

Just to clarify on my original post — when I come back to the car having previously left ADS in "individual", the car will still show as being in "individual". Despite this, the selections I've made (e.g. Engine Sound = Dynamic) aren't applied — I have to either hit the "drive select" button 5 times to cycle back to "individual", or simply enter the "set individual" screen on the MMI.

Having read various posts across the web, I've seen it suggested that setting these channel values in VCDS should correct this behaviour, but I'm not 100% on that — it could be that this is just for older cars that (apparently) default to "auto" rather than the last used setting.

The main question I have, is whether or not this quirk of ADS can be corrected on the B8.5 RS4 at all?

Thanks again,
Seb
 
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The main question I have, is whether or not this quirk of ADS can be corrected on the B8.5 RS4 at all?
As I have no personal experience with any B8.5 car, much less an RS4, I will bow out now that you've posted the basics. :thanks:

Hopefully someone else with more specific knowledge than I have will chime in here.

-Uwe-
 
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