2010 Passat CC Dynaudio retrofit

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Hi all,

I am considering installing Dynaudio in my 2010 Passat CC but have a few questions.


Firstly, I have made a few changes to the car over the years as can be seen in the scan. The Canbus for example is from a B7 to enable various other retrofits. The RNS510 is the latest SSD with Dab etc. So, do I need a B6 amp (3C8) or B7 (3AA) due to these upgrades? Or will either be compatible?

Secondly, the B7 front tweeters are much nicer looking but are they the same fitment as the B6 so, a direct replacement?

Thirdly, there is a retrofit wiring loom available on AliExpress which would make the job much easier. Has anyone used one of these?

If anyone has any info at all regarding this upgrade I’d love to hear it. I have been told that an aftermarket set up would be better for sound but I am a big fan of OEM so I’m only interested doing the factory offered sound system.


Many thanks,

Bwant.







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Workshop Code: 000 00000 012345

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZAEXXXXXX   License Plate:
Mileage: 81310km-50523mi   Repair Order: 



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Gateway Installation List:  7N0 907 530 AN

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
57-TV Tuner -- Status: OK 0000
5D-Operations -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: OK 0000
Thursday,15,September,2016,17:13:50:44665
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Data version: 20160902 DS256
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Workshop Code: 000 00000 012345

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZAE561328   License Plate: PA55TCC
Mileage: 81310km-50523mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 3C (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 13 14 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 3C 42 44 46 52 53
          56 57 5D 62 65 6C 72 77 A5

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZAE561328   Mileage: 81310km-50523miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
57-TV Tuner -- Status: OK 0000
5D-Operations -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (CBA)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CBA.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 022 QC    HW: 03L 907 309 
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC A000SG  6208  
   Revision: 13H03---    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 0000072
   Shop #: WSC 83712 152 534184
   VCID: 76E9D8B5016944F282-8022

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3C0-614-109-C4.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 698 109 E    HW: 3C0 614 109 P
   Component: J104    C4 440 V3   0017  
   Revision: --025---    Serial number: 00000785920829
   Coding: 0011539
   Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
   VCID: 2C5D3ADD8FA54E2224-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 044 AK    HW: 3AA 907 044 AK
   Component: Climatronic   H03 0303  
   Revision: 00001K02    
   Coding: 001C000002
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00020
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 79F3D389F8772B8AEF-802C

1 Fault Found:
13701424 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 76
                    Mileage: 81317 km
                    Date: 2016.09.15
                    Time: 16:41:43


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 AC    HW: 3C8 937 049 AC
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H64 3205  
   Revision: 00H64000    Serial number: 00000006247589
   Coding: E5808D8B00041A0047970F8817000000800DFF475C40017C174000000000
   Shop #: WSC 78638 146 12345
   VCID: 72E1E4A56D0158D2AE-8026

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C8 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 250310 022  0613  
   Coding: 00049045
   Shop #: WSC 78638  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 B
   Component: RLS     260215 037  0059  
   Coding: 00471277
   Shop #: WSC 78638  

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels: 1T0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 919 475 P    HW: 3T0 919 475 C
   Component: PARKHILFE PLA H08 0116  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 13901216701390
   Coding: 301007
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 4895664DFB1D820220-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg        Labels: 3C0-907-567.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 567 M    HW: 3AA 907 567 
   Component: AC201  RDW M    036 0243  
   Revision: 00036000    Serial number: 00000000598658
   Coding: 0010100
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 12345
   VCID: 356B1FB95CEF0FEA4B-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 14: Susp. Elect. (J250)       Labels: 3C0-907-376.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 376 A    HW: 3C0 907 376 
   Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H07 0070  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 07041005160001
   Coding: 030180
   Shop #: WSC 05314 123 12345
   VCID: 2757C5F156436D7AC9-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 J    HW: 5N0 959 655 J
   Component: J234__305 VW10 HI   1916  
   Revision: 20013000    Serial number: 003E2P7DX4L-  
   Coding: 0012341
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 448D727D0735A662CC-8010

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS639990770 

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS609830790 

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS6JTDU69KR 

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS6H2IV96KR 

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 3C0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 3C5 953 501 BN    HW: 5K0 953 569 AB
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   009 0135  
   Revision: FF010036    Serial number: 20100415100235
   Coding: 218AA70002
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
   ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
   VCID: 72E1E4A5A50158D2AE-8026

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 A    HW: 5K0 959 542 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H07 0013 
   Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 920 981 D    HW: 3C8 920 981 D
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0611  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140F01
   Shop #: WSC 05314 115 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW25.rod
   VCID: 2F672DD176B3353A01-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AN    HW: 7N0 907 530 AJ
   Component: J533  Gateway H51 1642  
   Revision:   H51       Serial number: 15061300F11108
   Coding: 464007
   Shop #: WSC 00079 790 45725
   VCID: 7CFDCA9DFF451EA2F4-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 AR    HW: 3C0 959 433 AR
   Component:    IMMO         043 0400  
   Revision: 00043000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00659 210 104202
   VCID: 7AF1CC8535712092E6-802E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 H
   Component:    ELV          028 0380
   3C0905861H     ELV          028 0380   

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 E    HW: 5N0 035 342 E
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0240  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7660932684    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 2953C3C940575B0ADF-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 686 C    HW: 1T0 035 686 C
   Component: RNS-MID       H09 5238  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7N6026019
   Coding: 04000402040000A0200F
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 346D22BD979516E27C-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V10  8048 

No fault code found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 566 D    HW: 4G0 907 566 
   Component: J769  SWA MasterH03 0030  
   Revision: 00H03000    Serial number: 6PZ 010 316-09
   Coding: 0001174
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 12345
   VCID: 3A710C8575F1E092A6-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 907 568 D
   Component: J0770_SWA_Slave_H03 0030

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6PZ 010 316-29

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 5F12.04.1400H03000AMS14975ÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: S14975ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 AG    HW: 3C0 959 793 A
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0308  
   Revision: 12101005    Serial number: 0000746448
   Coding: 0012FF
   Shop #: WSC 00124 012 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU42BroseDriveSide A03004
   ROD: EV_DCU42BroseDriveSide.rod
   VCID: 7CFDCA9DF7451EA2F4-8028

   Slave Driver: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 704 C    HW: 3C0 959 794 B  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  004 0401 
   Serial number: 00000001407098      
   Coding: 0000D8

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 207    3001  
   Revision: 00H17000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 31632BA9A88723CA17-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 3C0-959-433-46.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 AR    HW: 3C0 959 433 AR
   Component:    KSG PQ47 ELV 043 0612  
   Revision: 00043000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 01910A0001864E763602141F70089FCE105F01
   Shop #: WSC 00659 210 10420
   VCID: 7AF1CC8535712092E6-802E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 A
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H11 9004

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  004 0611

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
   Component: Innenraumueberw.004 0611

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 AC    HW: 3C0 959 792 A
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0308  
   Revision: 14101005    Serial number: 0000738894
   Coding: 0012FE
   Shop #: WSC 00124 012 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU52BrosePasseSide A03004
   ROD: EV_DCU52BrosePasseSide.rod
   VCID: 79F3D389F8772B8AEF-802C

   Slave Passenger: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 703 C    HW: 3C0 959 795 B  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  004 0401 
   Serial number: 00000001409269      
   Coding: 0000D8

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 5N0-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 907 801 E    HW: 3C8 907 801 E
   Component: J540 EPB3  VW-15417 0007  
   Revision:   010       Serial number: 00000000248663
   Coding: 0000057
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 2C5D3ADD8FA54E2224-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 686 C    HW: 1T0 035 686 C
   Component: RNS-MID       H09 5238  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7N6026019
   Coding: 04000402040000A0200F
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 346D22BD979516E27C-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V10  8048 

No fault code found.

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Address 57: TV Tuner        Labels: 7L6-919-148.clb
   Part No SW: 7L6 919 148 A    HW: 7L6 919 148 
   Component: R0078 TVhybridDVB   0150  
   Revision: R0H21000    Serial number: 93900500528102
   Coding: 0000803
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 3A710C8575F1E092A6-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 5D: Operations        Labels: 3C0-035-151.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 035 151 D    HW: 3C0 035 151 D
   Component: J738            012 0020  
   Revision: 00012000    
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 1933F309D037CB8A4F-804C

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 273 D    HW: 3AA 907 273 D
   Component: RDKBERU30     H09 0010  
   Serial number: 10000000229015
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 003012
   ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_VW36.rod
   VCID: 356B1FB994EF0FEA4B-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 907 441     HW: 3C8 907 441 
   Component: J772__Rearview      0040  
   Revision: 00H09000    Serial number: 525PA8-J182362
   Coding: 0020008
   Shop #: WSC 00124 012 00001
   VCID: 67D785F156C3AD7A09-8032

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 3C8-035-730-A.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 730 D    HW: 3C8 035 730 D
   Component: Telefon       022 0946  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 35502105027384
   Coding: 020000010100000000000101
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi 002708
   ROD: EV_UHVPremi_VW32.rod
   VCID: 244DD2FD2F758662EC-8070

No fault code found.

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Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242)       Labels: 3AA-980-654.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 980 654 D    HW: 3AA 980 654 A
   Component: MFK_Gen1      H09 0300  
   Serial number: 0195243832
   Coding: 01010101010202110201000000010100
   Shop #: WSC 18207 123 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_47X 001639
   ROD: EV_47X.rod
   VCID: 39731389B8F7EB8AAF-806C

No fault code found.

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Both Amps will do. 3C0 J type is the most powerfull.
Good alternative is a Helix subwoofer compatible for RNS510. You can lett the old speakers in the door and they will be powered via the Subs amp. Nice system
 
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I don't think the B7 front tweeter will fit because of the different shape of the window triangle.

Dynaudio midbass speakers can be expensive and are known to fail, so try to get items as new as possible.
 
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Thanks for the info.

The Helix sub sounds interesting. I’ll have a search around for that set up. Do you have any more info regarding this dieseltje? Part numbers etc?

Having looked at the front tweeters a little more, it seems there are also updated front tweeters for the later CC with the Dynaudio logo rather than the plain black that comes with the earlier model. Unfortunately, I can’t find these for sale but will keep looking.

Any other info would be a great help.
 
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https://parts.vwofmurrieta.com/p/Vo...jHoyg9nCBTk23Keq7y76ailaQGB8ThRTgXvz9-TfxMwVA


If you use google HELIX audio VW you get many hits. Its a prity straigt forward installation.
Unhook the quadlock connector and pull out the speaker connector. Insert the version from the amp and connect the cars connector into the male part from amp.
Then power supply and system is opperational. U can also rent a tool to adjust sound setting.

If you allready have Dynaudio or a VW Soundsystem AMP, then this is not compatible.
 
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Just had a look at the RNS510 coding options in my car. In byte 1 there are a few options. Mine is currently set to “00 Control Module NOT Installed” as expected. There are a few others but two options for Dynaudio caught my eye.

05 Dynaudio Sound System (CAN DSP)
07 Dynaudio Sound System (BAP DSP)

Anyone have an explanation for these?

Thanks.
 
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Can dsp is the normal dynaudio amp
BAP DSP is the 12channel panasonic amp that needs also the correct dataset for the 10channel system in the passat.
If you buy the same part number with other dataset, you will have no sound or only via 1 or 2 speakers.

3C0 /3C8 / 3AA 035 456 x are CAN DSP
3AA 035 466 are BAP DSP
 
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Thank you dieseltje. That answered the question perfectly.
As I have a CC I’m looking for a 3C8 amplifier which will be coded CAN DSP.
 
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Managed to get a full system for the Passat CC from an online retailer including door speaker grilles and a full wiring loom.
The installation was successful, everything worked first time after coding! The only thing was the front tweeter covers were the early ones without the ‘Dynaudio’ logo so I bought these separately.
Strangely, a couple of threads I read about replacing speakers mentioned about them being riveted on. Mine were screwed which made the job much easier.

Thanks to all that offered assistance.
 
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Managed to get a full system for the Passat CC from an online retailer including door speaker grilles and a full wiring loom.
The installation was successful, everything worked first time after coding! The only thing was the front tweeter covers were the early ones without the ‘Dynaudio’ logo so I bought these separately.
Strangely, a couple of threads I read about replacing speakers mentioned about them being riveted on. Mine were screwed which made the job much easier.

Thanks to all that offered assistance.
Hi there!

Did you get a new harness? Or had already on your car? How did you deal with harness?
I have a VW Passat CC as well, I got the kit plus harness, but the guy cut a lot of cables.
 
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Hi Luisa,
The harness I used was complete apart from the speaker input plug which was cut off unfortunately. I cut my original one off and soldered the wires directly to the harness.
The 4 door connector plugs were complete. I removed the relevant pins and installed them into my door plugs. Same with the door harnesses.
There is an earth connection in the footwell. The main power was connected to fuse 19 in the engine bay fuse box(30 amp).
Canbus connections were made behind the radio.

Hope this is helpful.
 
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