MFSW retrofitting with problems

[Caddy64]

Hi guys and gals.

Recently I purchased a MFSW for a 2014 1.6tdi VW Caddy, part number 2K5.419.091 E74 and after doing some research, I realised that I needed to purchased another SWCM as the one fitted would not accept the MFSW but would do CC.

I also need a new BCM due to retro fitting front fogs at the same time; which went flawlessly and worked. Both parts were new and genuine.

Here are the part numbers for the relevant modules SWCM:- 5K0 953 569 BD, BCM:- 5K0 937 087 AC.

The problem that I am having is even though (I think) the coding is correct, the CC is not activating via the MFSW. When i took the van out for a test drive, i made sure that i was going fast enough for the system to activate.

I can alter the volume and change radio station via the MFSW, the horn works and the back lights for the buttons work when i turn the lights on.

Any help would be gratefully received.

Please find below the before and after scans.

Before:-

Friday,27,March,2020,23:25:01:46247
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZFX020471   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 2K-VN35 (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56

VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZFX020471   Mileage: 81950km-50921miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYD)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 TF    HW: 03L 907 425 C
   Component: R4 1.6l TDI   H43 9978  
   Revision: --H43---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 00114010030500080000
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023TF 003002
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L997557M.rod
   VCID: 7DA60B49DD7A249FA23-8028

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BM    HW: 1K0 907 379 BM
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0164  
   Revision: 00H46001    
   Coding: 433C400D092403FAC20F02EB901AC081A0000020
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 7EA40C45D0FC3F87BB9-802A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 085 AA    HW: 5K0 937 085 AA
   Component: BCM PQ35 B+   122 0174  
   Revision: BB122001    
   Coding: 411A583A8023186A08800082800000C80701728852020060648000000040
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 72BC287594A46BE7CF1-8026

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T2 955 119 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 14061  26  0512 
   Coding: 009795

2 Faults Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 167
                    Mileage: 81389 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.07.14
                    Time: 16:56:05

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.60 V
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01519 - Bulb for Back-Up Lights; Right (M17) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 29
                    Reset counter: 202
                    Mileage: 80946 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.29
                    Time: 15:25:10

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.25 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B    HW: 7E0 959 655 B
   Component: VW10Airbag02Q H07 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003HL00RDLU3
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003251
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
   VCID: 3536D369A5CA3CDF2A3-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 BG    HW: 5K0 953 569 AC
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0140  
   Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20140614100784
   Coding: 0080060000
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 73B22D71EB3E62EFC47-8026

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 2K0 920 966 C    HW: 2K0 920 966 C
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0905  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 480000
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04727
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3038E27D5AA819F7795-8064

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AP    HW: 7N0 907 530 AK
   Component: J533  Gateway H57 1653  
   Revision:   H57       Serial number: 260614F1000896
   Coding: 357401
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 7EA40C45D0FC3F87BB9-802A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H03 0905  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6A8C3015BCF4A327771-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 T    HW: 1T0 959 701 T
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2110  
   Coding: 0000560
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 48C8AA9DCEB8B137415-801C

2 Faults Found:
01340 - Mirror Adjustment Switch 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01706 - Switch for Mirror-Adjust (E43) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 140    3501  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 392EDF598552D8BFCEB-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 R    HW: 1T0 959 702 R
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2110  
   Coding: 0000560
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 47CAA9A1C3A6BE4F48F-8012

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 5M0 035 186 L    HW: 5M0 035 186 L
   Component: Radio RCD310  004 0119  
   Revision: 01000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z2N1865223
   Coding: 05000200020013
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
   VCID: 3536D369A54A3CDF2A3-8060

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 00:44, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/12.0V. VIgn 12.0V)---

After:-

Wednesday,03,June,2020,18:19:18:46247
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.0.1 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
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VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZFX020471   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 2K-VN35 (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56

VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZFX020471   Mileage: 82490km-51256miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYD)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 TF    HW: 03L 907 425 C
   Component: R4 1.6l TDI   H43 9978  
   Revision: --H43---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 00114010032500080000
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023TF 003002
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L997557M.rod
   VCID: 7DA60B49DD7A2493384-8028

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BM    HW: 1K0 907 379 BM
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0164  
   Revision: 00H46001    
   Coding: 433C400D092403FAC20F02EB901AC081A0000020
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 7EA40C45D0FC3F8B21E-802A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 AC    HW: 5K0 937 087 AC
   Component: BCM PQ35 H+   122 0174  
   Revision: BF122001    
   Coding: 411A583A8023186A08800082800081C80700728852020060648000000040
   Shop #: WSC 18752 008 00032
   VCID: 76B41465F8CC77CB79E-8022

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T2 955 119 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 14061  26  0512 
   Coding: 009795

1 Fault Found:
01519 - Bulb for Back-Up Lights; Right (M17) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 236
                    Mileage: 82495 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.10.25
                    Time: 00:49:39

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 13.00 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B    HW: 7E0 959 655 B
   Component: VW10Airbag02Q H07 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003HL00RDLU3
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003251
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
   VCID: 3536D369A5CA3CD3B04-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 569 BD    HW: 5K0 953 569 BD
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   018 0230  
   Revision: --X01---    Serial number: 20171017200004
   Coding: 008A460000
   Shop #: WSC 01286 386 08256
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C 001001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C.rod
   VCID: 7BA20551C36E2AA3060-802E

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 2K0 959 442     HW: 2K0 959 442   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H06 0023 
   Serial number: 0861809514600613BA1B
   Coding: 280000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 2K0 920 966 C    HW: 2K0 920 966 C
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0905  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 480000
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04727
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3038E27D5AA819FBE32-8064

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AP    HW: 7N0 907 530 AK
   Component: J533  Gateway H57 1653  
   Revision:   H57       Serial number: 260614F1000896
   Coding: 357401
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 7EA40C45D0FC3F8B21E-802A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H03 0905  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW31.rod
   VCID: 6A8C3015BCF4A32BED6-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 T    HW: 1T0 959 701 T
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2110  
   Coding: 0000624
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 48C8AA9DCEB8B13BDB2-801C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 140    3501  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 392EDF598552D8B354C-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 R    HW: 1T0 959 702 R
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2110  
   Coding: 0000624
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 47CAA9A1C3A6BE43D28-8012

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 5M0 035 186 L    HW: 5M0 035 186 L
   Component: Radio RCD310  004 0119  
   Revision: 01000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z2N1865223
   Coding: 05000200020013
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
   VCID: 3536D369A54A3CD3B04-8060

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 00:45, VBatt start/end: 13.0V/13.0V)-----------

TIA

 

[iichel]

Are you sure cc via mfsw is possible on this configuration?

 

[Caddy64]

I honestly don’t know and was hoping some with more knowledge could shine a little light on the matter

 

[iichel]

I'm sort of afraid that this is not a viable option; cc via MFSW on PQ35. At least not in the OEM way.
There are some emulators on the market that are capable of translating signals from the MQB wheels to the PQ35/PQ25 electronics.

 

[Spacewalker]

I'm sort of afraid that this is not a viable option; cc via MFSW on PQ35. At least not in the OEM way.
There are some emulators on the market that are capable of translating signals from the MQB wheels to the PQ35/PQ25 electronics.

iichel That guy is on caddy forum too
There is a hundreds of topic regarding MFSW because every new user asking this same...and this same ...etc
he is asking this same too , and people asking him for this same , to post details ti understand that car
and he dont know ...
I am really confuse when i see this same guy, this same scan, this same issue ... and he dont know what to do
Just wonder - what he is expecting if he can not help other to explain what is this ?

 

[Caddy64]

Ok then Sapcewalker

What is it that you want to know??????

 

[dnoermann]

As already said by iichel, MFSW with CCS is not possible the normal way in your Caddy.
Right now, you probably have something not cabled right or coded not right.
There i can not help you.

But when you have everything done right, than your ECU will probably complaine about an "unplausible CCS Signal" os something simmilar

4481 - Cruise Control Switch (E45)
P0568 00 [039] - Implausible Signal
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

That i can tell you from my research with a Bosch EDC17CP20 ECU.

With CCS inside the MFSW VW did change the CCS Communication to the ECU.
And this is not supported by oider ECU's.
I expect you will face the same issue with your SIMOS PCR 2.1, too.
For the Bosch i did found the Code and was able to patch it, see here: https://uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=70203&start=75#p561665
but SIMOS, i have no clue

 

[Caddy64]

Thank you very much dnoermann!!!!!

Where you say in your post done everything right, I do get a code of:-

Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYD) Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 023 TF HW: 03L 907 425 C
Component: R4 1.6l TDI H43 9978
Revision: --H43--- Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 00114010032500080000
Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023TF 003002
ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L997557M.rod
VCID: 7DA60B49DD7A2493384-8028

1 Fault Found:
6118 - Cruise Control Switch (E45)
P0568 00 [037] - Implausible Signal
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 3
Mileage: 82495 km
Date: 2020.06.03
Time: 02:09:25

Engine speed: 0.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 38 °C
Intake air temperature: 22 °C
Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 13.101 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Accelerator position: normalized-Accelerator position: 0.00 %
Cruise Control System (CCS): switch position-STATE_CRU_SWI_POS: 00000010

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

But this is only when i set MFSW as a MQB one, ie

Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 569 BD HW: 5K0 953 569 BD
Component: LENKS.MODUL 018 0230
Revision: --X01--- Serial number: 20171017200004
Coding: 008A460008 From 008A460000
Shop #: WSC 01286 386 08256
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C 001001
ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C.rod
VCID: 7BA20551C36E2AA3060-802E

Multifunction steering wheel control module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 2K0 959 442 HW: 2K0 959 442 Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-TAT H06 0023
Serial number: 0861809514600613BA1B
Coding: 280000

No fault code found.

You've been a great help. Thank you once again

 

[dnoermann]

@Caddy64 Did you find a way to solve this ?

 

[Caddy64]

No as yet dnoermann.
I am trying to book Caddy in to get the cluster upgraded, the rear MK4 lights coded in and I'll get the specialist to have a look at the problem.
However, if I find a solution I will get back to this post and let you know

 

[Blanco92]

That i can tell you from my research with a Bosch EDC17CP20 ECU.

With CCS inside the MFSW VW did change the CCS Communication to the ECU.
And this is not supported by oider ECU's.

Hi dnoermann,
Do you know if this change in communication affects all MFSW, or just retrofits using MQB MFSW?
E.g I have PQ35 Scirocco face-lift (with MFSW + CCS stalk), I plan to fit "MK7-style" MFSW (inc CCS buttons) from 6C Polo (PQ25). Will the ECU understand CCS signals?

 

[DV52]

Hi dnoermann,
Do you know if this change in communication affects all MFSW, or just retrofits using MQB MFSW?
E.g I have PQ35 Scirocco face-lift (with MFSW + CCS stalk), I plan to fit "MK7-style" MFSW (inc CCS buttons) from 6C Polo (PQ25). Will the ECU understand CCS signals?

hmm....... I'm confused "Mk7-style MFSW" is MQB!

As I understand, the basic problem with fitting a MQB MFSW into a PQ25 car is really related to which module becomes the LIN master.

Here is a comparison of how the CAN network arrangement changed in respect of the MFSW with the introduction mk7-style (MQB) vehicles

Note that in the mk7 case, whilst the LIN wire for the MFSW module is routed via J527 (same as PQ25), the master module is the hex 19 module - not J527!!

I guess that the pins on the mk7 MTSW connector could be re-wired to suit the PQ25/35 arrangement, but it's not at all certain that the hex19 protocols that have been programmed into J453 would be the same as those needed by J257. Does anyone know if this works?

Don

 

[dnoermann]

Do you know if this change in communication affects all MFSW, or just retrofits using MQB MFSW?
E.g I have PQ35 Scirocco face-lift (with MFSW + CCS stalk), I plan to fit "MK7-style" MFSW (inc CCS buttons) from 6C Polo (PQ25). Will the ECU understand CCS signals?

I dont know.
I belive it will work cause in PQ35 you have the "Lenksäulensteuergerät" where the Lin of MFSW is connected to.

 

[Blanco92]

@DV52 /Don
Appreciate the info. You may not be familiar, but there is a "Polo GT" model sold in UK/Europe that is pre-MQB as it was a Polo based on PQ25/26 platform. Thus, the steering wheel switches are an address 16 SWCM Subsystem rather than 19 CAN GW Subsystem. This gives me hope it will work on my PQ35 car which from the factory uses 16 SWCM Subsystem.

I dont know.
I belive it will work cause in PQ35 you have the "Lenksäulensteuergerät" where the Lin of MFSW is connected to.

Appreciate the reply. For me, it's worth a try to fit it at least. I'll update tomorrow with my findings

 

[golfman]

Scott

 

[Blanco92]

By way of update:
I fitted the wheel (p/n 6C0 419 091) and buttons 5G0 959 442 M / 6C0 959 442 C.

There seems to be some wiring problem, as now the CCS on/off button sounds the horn. The CCS set/res/cnl/Mode buttons don't appear to have any function.

On further investigation it seems there are 2 versions of airbag/MFSW loom; 6C0 971 584 A and 6C0 971 584 C. It seems version "A" is for cars with PR code 2FJ steering wheel (this is my original) while version C is for cars with PR 2ZH which appears to be applicable to wheels with CCS buttons. Sadly it did not come with the loom when I bought it. Perhaps I need to buy this loom...

General question as I'm curious, what is the purpose of this function in address 16? I have left it alone so far as I don't what it does.



2021-12-30_113105 by Chris B, on Flickr

 

[iichel]

So... did you have a look at the wiring diagram of your 5K0 setup and the 6C0 setup?

 

[timangus]

Regarding the horn issue: https://caddy2k.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=414833#p414833

 

[Blanco92]

So... did you have a look at the wiring diagram of your 5K0 setup and the 6C0 setup?

I have the ELSA wiring diagram for my VIN 5K0 setup (car is 2017 Scirocco). Not super useful because it wrongly states all 5 wires between airbag loom and MFSW plug are all black. They are brown, pink, white/violet, grey and grey/blue.

It looks like this:

2022-01-04_170010 by Chris B, on Flickr

I don't have 6C0 car to compare anymore, maybe you have a diagram?

Regarding the horn issue: https://caddy2k.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=414833#p414833

Thanks for this! My wiring starts off identical to yours. What I don't know, is this the only change between loom p/n 6C0 971 584 A and 6C0 971 584 C or if there are others.