1999 Jetta : NO CRANK NO START

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Good afternoon,

I have a bit of a strange pickle.

1999 VW Jetta 2.0 4 cylinder that is a no-crank no-start case.

I have replaced the starter.
I have replaced the ignition cylinder.
The battery is fully charged.
The key fob will open and lock all doors.
All electrical items appear to be working properly.

Could the immobilizer be the root of my issue even thought the key FOB still works to lock/unlock the doors?

Any other idea's would be a great starting point.

The car was functioning properly until I drove it to work one morning and it would not start when it was time to go home. Had to have it towed.

Thanks,
Dave
 
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Dave WTF! are you doing? :rolleyes:

Scan? 1999 MK3 or 1999 MK4?

No it's not Immobilizer related....could be, ground strap, positive feed to or starter, alarm module, wiring, relay, or fuse and even new ignition switch if not genuine?

Did you observe the WD yet and see if relay for starter and power are making way through the track when switch is turned to crank?
 
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I agree with Jack. 1999 US models don't have an immobilizer, but even if it did, the immo wouldn't keep it from cranking.

However, the Central Locking or Central Convenience module (depending on Mk.3 or Mk.4 and equipment) does have an anti-theft function that can prevent the car from cranking.

Post an Auto-Scan please so people can see what this is and what it's made of.

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Regardless terminal 50 anyone, anyone.....anyone, red wire black stripe anyone?:rolleyes:

How about X?

What happens ignition key off, blower motor on high and pulling back on bright lights?
 
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Here is the auto scan. Sorry (I just got access to this car-its a buddy's).

It appears to be the older body style 1999 Jetta (mk3)

Code:
Saturday,30,May,2020,11:59:35:54382
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: Dave and Joey's Bone-Yard



Chassis Type: 1G - VW Golf/Jetta CHN II (1989 > 2012)
Scan: 01 02 03 09 15 17 19 25 46
 
   Mileage: 275580km-171237miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-018-AEG.lbl
   Part No: 06A 906 018 JM
   Component: 2.0l R4/2V  MOTR AT V01  
   Coding: 00033
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 76B5E1A061DA7B5B797-4B1E

6 Faults Found:
16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected 
            P0300 - 35-10 -  - Intermittent
16687 - Cylinder 3 
            P0303 - 35-10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
16686 - Cylinder 2 
            P0302 - 35-10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected 
            P0300 - 35-10 -  - Intermittent
16687 - Cylinder 3 
            P0303 - 35-10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
16686 - Cylinder 2 
            P0302 - 35-10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 01M-927-733.lbl
   Part No: 01M 927 733 HM
   Component: AG4 Getriebe 01M    4544  
   Coding: 00000
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 025D8D703D1257FB45F-0962

1 Fault Found:
00293 - Multi-function Switch (F125) 
            25-00 - Unknown Switch Condition

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1J0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 907 379 P
   Component: ABS     20 IE CAN  0001  
   Coding: 03504
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 3E253980096AF31B617-4AE0

1 Fault Found:
01276 - ABS Hydraulic Pump (V64) 
            16-00 - Signal Outside Specifications

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 6Q0 909 605 A
   Component: Z9 AIRBAG VW5       0003  
   Coding: 23097
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 353726AC3C5C3043B0D-4B3C

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1J0-920-xx0-17.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 920 900 K
   Component: A4-KOMBIINSTR. VDO V54   
   Coding: 07242
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 2A0D05D0E5E26FBB2DF-5160

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: IMMO
   Component: IDENTNR: VWZ7Z0W0699364         
   IMMO-IDENTNR: VWZ7Z0W0699364       

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
   Coding: 00007
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 70B9D7B803BE556BA3B-5160

No fault code found.

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It appears to be the older body style 1999 Jetta (mk3)
No it's a MK4 with 1J0 and 06A controllers not MK3! :rolleyes:


Now post Terminal 50 WD for ignition switch to starter tracks and lets trace it okay?


VIN number please?

I will almost bet this is related to your issue "Davethewave washer"

What does the park neutral indicator say on dash and did you try to select neutral to start the car too?

Is shift cable in proper order or valve body to controls that initiate F125?

Have you tried selecting neutral and clearing codes in transmission with VCDS & to see if blocks reflect a gear and if will than try to crank?

1 Fault Found:
00293 - Multi-function Switch (F125)
25-00 - Unknown Switch Condition


Did you check the F125 yet?

Never negate or dismiss scans and JPPSG........!


 
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