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Give a monkey a crescent wrench, and what happens? I have swapped yet another VW engine into the wrong chassis, at least according to some people. I have adapted and installed a 2016 CZTA into a '74 Beetle and even have the original engine lid shutting to hide it. I am no stranger to VW swaps and adaptions but it is getting harder each year with electronics upgrades (?).
I bought a complete wrecked car so I would have all the parts I didn't know I would need. I have nearly everything figured out and mocked to fit. I separated the engine harness from the car harness and connected similarly to the original car. I used the instrument cluster and key reader coil and ECU from the car. I simplified the canbus system from the BCM/CAN unit into an older 20 pin canbus and connected only what I thought I would need to make it run, much like I have done in past swaps.
I have communication with all components through the can and I have the engine running in the car, but it is in limp mode. In my ignorance I bought a wrecked car with an auto trans and Kessey system, I was able to get around the Kessey and immobilizer function and get it to run. I was thinking I could just recode the ECU to manual trans and be done with that as I strongly believe that is the limp cause, no communication with transmission controller. I was unable to recode it and only received an out of range error when trying. I contacted Ross-tech and Dana replied that the ECU's are distinctive to the transmission and can not be recoded, so I suggested replacing the ECU, cluster and key from a similar manual trans car, which I am now trying to locate and purchase. I am hoping that will allow free revving. There was some question as to the need of wheel speed sensing even with a manual trans, and possible traction control intervention. Dana Had no answers as this is un-trodden ground and suggested I throw this out on the retrofit forum to see if anyone has experience or ideas.
I have tried contacting any tuners I could think of, originally just to do an Immo delete to make my install easier and so far all just have package tunes for the cars and no immo deletes at all. I am beyond the immo issue and will just hide the cluster under the back seat or somewhere along with the CAN gateway as I have done in the past swaps sometimes. So far though no interest in standalone tunes has been forthcoming. My last swap was a CBEA common rail diesel and Charley at Kermatdi helped immensely in eliminating the little bugs that popped up. He was interested in making a standalone file and I became a test bed for him and it has worked out well. He has since sold tunes to people wanting common rail swaps.
I was going to post an auto scan, but apparently I am not allowed that option, being a newb to this forum. I welcome any hints or suggestions, or just read the saga and shake your head.
Thanks for reading
Dave
I bought a complete wrecked car so I would have all the parts I didn't know I would need. I have nearly everything figured out and mocked to fit. I separated the engine harness from the car harness and connected similarly to the original car. I used the instrument cluster and key reader coil and ECU from the car. I simplified the canbus system from the BCM/CAN unit into an older 20 pin canbus and connected only what I thought I would need to make it run, much like I have done in past swaps.
I have communication with all components through the can and I have the engine running in the car, but it is in limp mode. In my ignorance I bought a wrecked car with an auto trans and Kessey system, I was able to get around the Kessey and immobilizer function and get it to run. I was thinking I could just recode the ECU to manual trans and be done with that as I strongly believe that is the limp cause, no communication with transmission controller. I was unable to recode it and only received an out of range error when trying. I contacted Ross-tech and Dana replied that the ECU's are distinctive to the transmission and can not be recoded, so I suggested replacing the ECU, cluster and key from a similar manual trans car, which I am now trying to locate and purchase. I am hoping that will allow free revving. There was some question as to the need of wheel speed sensing even with a manual trans, and possible traction control intervention. Dana Had no answers as this is un-trodden ground and suggested I throw this out on the retrofit forum to see if anyone has experience or ideas.
I have tried contacting any tuners I could think of, originally just to do an Immo delete to make my install easier and so far all just have package tunes for the cars and no immo deletes at all. I am beyond the immo issue and will just hide the cluster under the back seat or somewhere along with the CAN gateway as I have done in the past swaps sometimes. So far though no interest in standalone tunes has been forthcoming. My last swap was a CBEA common rail diesel and Charley at Kermatdi helped immensely in eliminating the little bugs that popped up. He was interested in making a standalone file and I became a test bed for him and it has worked out well. He has since sold tunes to people wanting common rail swaps.
I was going to post an auto scan, but apparently I am not allowed that option, being a newb to this forum. I welcome any hints or suggestions, or just read the saga and shake your head.
Thanks for reading
Dave
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