2012 B8 A4 seat swap issues, help

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Hey guys/gals,
I have a 2012 A4 Avant prestige. It had the standard base level seating and I wanted the S-line style sport seats. I found a set exactly as I wanted, same match in leather to the rest of the interior (they are B8, but i do not know what year). They look mint, with an occasional blemish in the leather, underside of seat is also in great shape (no evidence of damage, flooding, or other bad mojo).

I swapped them out, fit is perfect and was all plug-n-play......so I thought. All the same connectors and hardware, so mechanically its all good. All of the power motors work (all the same as the seats that came out), and the heated seats work mint too. But now I have AirBag light and parking brake malfunction warning.

I am armed with a VCDS, but am kind of a noob. The car had no faults prior to swap. Now I have 1 code in each of the following control modules: Airbag, ABS, Seat Memory, and Parking brake. I am guessing it has something to do with the seats control module and here is my logic...No seat, or nobody sitting in seat, the car thinks its unsafe to release parking brake so it throws a code, because parking brake has a code that throws a code to ABS because it is linked to the brake system. No seat throws code for seat memory, no seat throws code for airbag.

ABS Fault is 00473
Airbag Fault is 9445973/B1022
Seat Memory is 02095
Parking Brake is 01321

Based on the codes I think it is a recognition issue, do I need to "recode" the seat module somehow, or recode something else to get the errors to go away? I would think that here have been dozens of seat swaps like this, but I cannot find any other info on the forum for this specific issue, my 2012 is low mileage, had nothing wrong before the seat swap, all that was done was the front seats removed and replaced with another set.

Anybody with ideas?

Thanks in advance
 
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I do not have the one from previous, but wasn't expecting issues either, but know I know, scan before any mod!!
Here is the after:

Code:
Saturday,07,February,2015,17:29:57:42805
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 14.10.1.1 (x64)
Data version: 20150130


VIN: WAU4FAFL6CA083758   License Plate: FRM8334
Mileage: 40970km-25457mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: FL (8T0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 36 3C 42 46 47 52 53 55 56
          5F 62 6C 6D 72

VIN: WAU4FAFL6CA083758   Mileage: 40970km-25457miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: Malfunction 0010
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (0-----CAEB)       Labels: 06H-907-115-CAB.clb
   Part No SW: 8K2 907 115 AG    HW: 8K2 907 115 D
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TF H20 0002  
   Revision: E1H20---    
   Coding: 010C010A290F0160
   Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0118K2907115AG 001002
   ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0118K2907115AG.rod
   VCID: 74E7E680DF1C1A817A8-8021

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels: 0BK-927-156.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 927 158 S    HW: 0BK 927 156 R
   Component: 0BK 20TFSIUSA H17 1003  
   Revision: --H17---    
   Coding: 000002
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL551211 002018
   ROD: EV_TCMAL551211_AU48.rod
   VCID: 46836C48F900D81114C-8013

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 8K0-907-379.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 BJ    HW: 8K0 907 379 BJ
   Component: ESP8 quattro  H04 0060  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 1D0D18
   Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
   VCID: 020BB0589DA82431784-8057

1 Fault Found:
00473 - Control Module for Elect. Park/Hand Brake (J540) 
            013 - Check DTC Memory
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101101
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 40973 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.02.07
                    Time: 17:21:11

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x00C0
                    Hex Value: 0x0782
                    Hex Value: 0x0032
                    Hex Value: 0x0291
                    Hex Value: 0x00FF


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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 CH    HW: 8K0 907 064 CH
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H05 0435  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 0D0200
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 78FFD2B0CB747EE1560-802D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D    HW: 8K0 905 852 D
   Component: J764 ELV MLB  H37 0042 

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8T1 820 043 AQ    HW: 8T1 820 043 AQ
   Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H08 0180  
   Revision: C1000000    Serial number: 01191020111027
   Coding: 64102000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 000FBA5093A436216E0-8055

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 8K0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 P    HW: 8K0 907 063 P
   Component: BCM1 1.0      H30 0392  
   Revision: 10030001    Serial number: 00000001255367
   Coding: 26001091063CAF010000080300003D0D0F1C460802010161000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 3C770EA0BFCC92C1728-8069

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K1 955 119 A    HW: 8T1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS 171011  H07 0070 
   Coding: 00FD11

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS  H04 0003 
   Coding: 025028

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AS    HW: 8K0 941 531 AS
   Component: E1 - LDS  H03 0031 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8K0 907 410 C    HW: 8K0 907 410 C
   Component: HOMELINK  H01 0010 

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 8K0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 919 475 T    HW: 8P0 919 475 M
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H01 0081  
   Revision: 11001001    Serial number: 36861129300363
   Coding: 200103
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4A9B5878E5183C71F04-801F

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 8K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 K    HW: 8K0 959 655 K
   Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H44 0610  
   Serial number: 003GLD0P54CD  
   Coding: 303837354230303030304A55304C384B3053
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
   ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_AU48.rod
   VCID: 45816B44C406D3091D6-8010

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 339 B    HW: 8K0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H01 0030 
   Serial number: 5810000R0800001XSE

   Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 6334MSME65440A69H

   Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6344MSME645216378

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side: 
   Serial number: 6352QSME746002589

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6362QSME11621B4CG

   Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 63732SME79661E605

   Crash sensor for front airbag; front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 63832SME43610B48.

1 Fault Found:
9445973 - Seat occupied recognition control module 
             B1022 55 [137] - Not configured
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 40973 km
                    Date: 2015.02.07
                    Time: 17:19:25


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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 8K0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 953 568 K    HW: 8R0 953 568 K
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H07 0156  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 20111020000488
   Coding: 000017
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 49996774E01E3769F9E-801C

   Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0010 

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 920 981 C    HW: 8K0 920 981 C
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H31 0258  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: EJB62TEAC     
   Coding: 8B1611000B00D705020000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 3365259C92925DB9A32-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 AJ    HW: 8T0 907 468 L
   Component: GW-BEM 5CAN-M H10 0120  
   Revision: FC201059    Serial number: 5900F11A1001DC
   Coding: 00C303
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 0919A774A09E776939E-805C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 E    HW: 8K0 915 181 E
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0170 

1 Fault Found:
02095 - Component Protection Active 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 40973 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.02.07
                    Time: 17:21:17

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits:    11111
                    Voltage: 12.60 V
                    Count: 6
                    Text: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF1746D04FFFFFF820100
                    Text: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF1746D04FFFFFF820100
                    Raw, Index/Key Err.: 241 116 109
                    Ign. Timing: 163.8 *BTDC


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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: 8T0-959-760.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 760     HW: 8K0 959 760 
   Component: MEM-FS        H05 0043  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001001168756
   Coding: 00581300000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 08180 444 84082
   VCID: 77FDD18CC66A71995FA-8022

1 Fault Found:
02095 - Component Protection Active 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 40973 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.02.07
                    Time: 17:19:21


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Address 3C: Lane Change        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 566 H    HW: 4L0 907 566 B
   Component: J0769_SWA_MasterH01 0030  
   Revision: 00H01000    Serial number: 6PZ 009 014-82
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 3C770EA07FCC92C1728-8069

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 907 568 H
   Component: J0770_SWA_Slave_H01 0030

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6PZ 009 014-92

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 5F10.10.1100H010003C325551ÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 325551ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 8K0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 M    HW: 8K0 959 793 M
   Component: TSG FA        H12 0357  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000120985353 
   Coding: 011C13204E00410001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4A9B5878E5183C71F04-801F

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 CH    HW: 8K0 907 064 CH
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H05 0435  
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0160838493    
   Coding: 0126023A20BA741580B0023200000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 78FFD2B0CB747EE1560-802D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 719 B    HW: 8K0 959 719 
   Component: GTO BF  H01 0070 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 B    HW: 8K0 959 591 
   Component: J245 PS150  H08 0043 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 B    HW: 8K0 959 591 
   Component: J394 PS240  H08 0043 

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels: 8T0-035-223-BOM.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 035 223 AN    HW: 8T0 035 223 AK
   Component: DSP Prem      H10 0190  
   Revision: 00010001    Serial number: 34804010625703
   VCID: 7AFBC8B8F5786CF1204-802F

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 8K0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 M    HW: 8K0 959 792 M
   Component: TSG BF        H12 0357  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000015955158 
   Coding: 011C13204E00410001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 49996774E01E3769F9E-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (J540)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 H    HW: 8K0 907 801 H
   Component: EPB Audi B8   H09 0100  
   Revision: 00000003    Serial number: 00000001036649
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 34672680979C5A81BA8-8061

1 Fault Found:
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234) 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101101
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 40973 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.02.07
                    Time: 17:20:30

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 12.00 V
                    Count: 80
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Hex Value: 0x0270
                    Hex Value: 0x0001
                    Hex Value: 0x0101


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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8T0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 8H0 907 357 C    HW: 8H0 907 357 C
   Component: AFS 1           H01 0040  
   Revision: 00H01001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000019
   Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
   VCID: 326B2098AD8854B1A84-8067

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 941 329 
   Component: AFS-Modul links H02 S001

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8K0 941 329 
   Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH02 S001

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4G0 035 082 B    HW: 4G0 035 082 
   Component: Radio U SIRIU H53 0076  
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 156J60B7561579
   Coding: 020007010000000001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 1F4DD92C0E1AE9D977A-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 8T1 035 664 D    HW: 8T1 035 664 B
   Component: H-BN-NA       H52 0165  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 490J10B7644635
   Coding: 010200010006A1EF51000B0E000000030000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 397917B4B0FEA7E969E-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 AD
   Component: NAR 2011  0505 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 919 604     HW: 8R0 919 604 
   Component: DU7 High  H41 0104 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 609 G    HW: 8T0 919 609 G
   Component: E0380 Bedient  H08 0100 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 A
   Component: CD-Database  2712 

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels: 8K0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 F    HW: 8K0 959 795 F
   Component: TSG HL        H11 0357  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000015674767 
   Coding: 010C13204000210001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 45816B44CC06D3091D6-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 441 C    HW: 4L0 907 441 B
   Component: J772__Rearview      0040  
   Revision: --H05---    Serial number: 525PA8-J149396
   Coding: 1000007
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 387F12B04BF4BEE1960-806D

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8K9 827 851 A    HW: 8K9 827 851 A
   Component: J605  Master  H52 0330  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 8K9827851A    
   VCID: 3C770EA0BFCC92C1728-8069

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K9 827 852 A    HW: 8K9 827 852 A
   Component: J756  Slave  H52 0330 

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels: 8K0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 F    HW: 8K0 959 795 F
   Component: TSG HR        H11 0357  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000015674764 
   Coding: 010C13204000210001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 45816B44CC06D3091D6-8010

No fault code found.

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but know I know, scan before any mod!!

:p Even I have made this fatal mistake.

This ends up being a component protection issue.

You can see if the dealer will SVM/FAZIT it for you and maybe you get lucky and it will pair.
If not.......... you could also swap the guts from the old seats to grab the CP needed.
This I have done with success.
 
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so no quick fix with using the VCDS. But swapping the control modules may solve the issue?
 
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That is correct I believe..........if I am in error please someone chime in.
 
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Thanks for the insight, shouldn't take too long to swap those modules out. I will clear the snow off and head to work to give it a shot. I will be back later to let you know (and the forum too).
 
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Yep, because leather seats can be even more desirable than the stereo, I'm not surprised at all (glad, in a way) that there is Component Protection being activated. You've got to get that sorted first. I take it your car is LHD - are your seats from a LHD too?
 
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Swapping control modules saved the day. Swapped both the drivers (LH), and passenger (RH) control modules. re-scanned and cleared codes. got a code again for seat memory and for the parking brake, but the warning lights in the instrument cluster went away. Read somewhere that you need to "adapt" the seat for memory (similar to resetting window regulator modules), running each motor to its maximum adjustment. Thought I had gone that far, but then got another warning about the seat-back and went through it again. When moving the seat back forward through its ranges, it will go for a bit and then stop....but this is not the end of its range, you got to hit the button again and run it further forward (had to do this 3 times before it maxed out its adjustment). After that the memory seats worked to factory spec. The fault code remaining in the parking brake was just listed as "intermittent fault", and Im guess that is because it saw, and then didn't see, the control module a few times.

And To Zenerdiode...I have yet to see fabric seats in an A4 in the North American market, and I was hunting for the seats I have now for about 6 months and did not see one set. The seats I removed are the basic of the basic in our market, in fact i am selling them at the moment (both fronts from a 2012 and the rears from something, with rear side airbags to match), and I can't sell them, I'm asking $250.00 for all and nobody wants them. selling on ebay right now

http://http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audi...|Model:A4+Quattro&hash=item3aa1e4483d&vxp=mtr

If that doesn't get you there, ebay item no = 251824195645.

Thanks for your input guys. Sad though that there isn't a way to "auto configure" these modules.

Cheers!
 
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