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- May 16, 2014
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@Uwe: haha - again, nice try!!!There [is] a major flaw with your analysis. A substantial portion of the people who died "of" or "with" COVID were in such ill health to begin with that they would have died soon whether they got COVID or not, and thus were not "excess" or "unexpected" deaths.
Of course there is the question of whether reported COVID deaths were really the result of co-mobility factors. Ain't nothing special about this question.
Understand what you are suggesting here; you are asserting that across the huge volume of INDEPENDENT death certificates that were issued in 2021 (in EVERY case in USA written by a qualified medical practitioner -meaning someone skilled in their craft) - the error in diagnosis was systemically one way and the number of errors was so huge (in that "one way") as to make the reported findings meaningless!!
I'm assuming that you are not proposing that there was a concerted conspiracy by doctors for this alleged error- rather, I assume you mean that the errors were unconnected to each other (i.e. the errors were unrelated cases of wrong-diagnosis)
Just to put this astonishing assertion into context - in USA in 2021, there would have been 336,000 death certificates written by 336,000 independent medical practitioners (yes, some doctors would have written more than one certificate).
And your claim as to "a major flaw" in my calculation is that somehow (and for reasons known only to naysayers) 336,000 independently written death certificates had a single and substantial leaning towards incorrectly identifying the cause of death as COVID? Unbelievable!!
And so that I understand your wider position on this matter - not only do you make this astonishing claim about the errors made by medical practitioners in America - I assume that you also believe that EXACTLY the same behavior occurred in every other country of the world (because the reported COVID death numbers in 2021 were also high world-wide)!!
Again for context, these are the numbers for your suggestion - in 2021, a total of 1,884,146 death certificates were INDEPENDENTLY written world-wide by suitably qualified medical folk. So, notwithstanding a massive 560% increase in the size of the statistical cohort (over USA's cohort size) -your position is that EXACTLY the same error-dynamic occurred in the world-wide stats??? Absolutely amazing!!
And to extrapolate your extraordinary hypothesis, I assume that it is asserted that the EXACT same errors that occurred in 2021 have been repeated in the COVID death numbers for each year of the pandemic (because the reported numbers have continued to be high over sequential years). Positively phantasmagorical!!!
I guess in the total possibility of every conceivable option of statistical error, there must be a finite (infinitesimal) chance that your hypothesis is correct - but is this really the bed-rock for your position?
Bottom line = I've no problem with the notion that the COVID stats contain errors - but so does every other professionally collected survey. What gives me confidence about the underlying veracity of the COVID numbers (particularly in 1st world countries like USA) is the qualifications of those who author death certificates. Let's not forget that these are the same people that US citizen rely-on for their medical wellbeing. And to avoid a misunderstanding -no, I'm not saying that EVERY doctor's diagnosis of cause of death will be correct!