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A grim milestone for planet earth and for the human race: as of April 03, 2020, 23:58 GMT. we have reached over 1 Million confirmed cases (1,097,000) from the coronavirus COVID-19 and 59,140 deaths - world wide!!!

Perhaps more worrying, the morbidity rate has climbed from initially mid-high 4%, to now 5.4% of confirmed cases

Stay well

Don
 
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A grim milestone for planet earth and for the human race: as of April 03, 2020, 23:58 GMT. we have reached over 1 Million confirmed cases (1,097,000) from the coronavirus COVID-19 and 59,140 deaths - world wide!!!

Perhaps more worrying, the morbidity rate has climbed from initially mid-high 4%, to now 5.4% of confirmed cases

Stay well

Don
We really do not know the real morbidity rate because (for the most part) we are only testing the sickest people. Until we have some idea about the number of people who get better without hospitalization and those who show no symptoms at all. For those who get hospitalized the mortality rate is frighteningly high but we won't know the true morbidity rate until we can test most people for antibodies - so we know how many people were actually infected and cleared, not how many were sick enough to get tested.

Have Fun!

Don
 
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Interesting graph from Imperial College London (taken fromBBC website) showing little or no age related effect on morbidity rate due to Covid-19
Right, compared to the to the normal / expected morbidity rate at a given age, there's no difference.

Now if you really want something to raise your eyebrows:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm

Check out the first table, specifically the Deaths from All Causes and the Percent of Expected Deaths.

Week ending March 21: 74%
Week ending March 28: 50%

I've screen-shotted it here for posterity.

It will certainly be interesting to see if that trend holds.

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Did you note how many times each guy touched his mask with his gloved hands? You shouldn't be doing that! Keep your hands away. The purpose in wearing gloves is to keep the virus off your hands - the mask - to keep infections from being sprayed by your mouth. If the virus is picked up by the glove and placed on the mask, there is no guarantee that it will not go through the mask...

It's great to see that they are developing tools. They need to get them going into production!
 
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^^^ That's pretty cool.

But the the survival rate once a person gets to the point of needing a ventilator is very low. In Wuhan, it was under 10%. In the US, we're doing slightly better, but not a whole lot. Bottom line: Cranking out a zillion ventilators will not save many lives. Instead, we need to figure out how to keep the disease from progressing to the point where people need ventilators. Giving people Plaquenil (hydroxychloroquine) and Zithromax (azithromycin), plus doing what is often forgotten, making sure they have adequate zinc levels, seems to go a long way toward preventing the disease from progressing to the point where a ventilator is their last hope. The thing is, you have to do it early; if you wait until someone is in need of treatment in an ICU, it's too late.

Oh, and the models that said we needed a zillion ventilators are just plain wrong. Check out what those models predicted a couple weeks ago, when Cuomo was screaming he needed 40,000 ventilators. NY is using less than 1/3 the number of ICU beds that the lowest estimates in those models predicted, and yes, those predictions included the effects of closing everything "non essential" and staying at home.

There's much we don't understand yet, but I'm really starting to think that the doomsayers are off-base and that we're over-reacting.

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Do the Tesla ventilator's, hey, do they operate on clean battery technology and that spontaneously combusts when being used?
 
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Do the Tesla ventilator's, hey, do they operate on clean battery technology and that spontaneously combusts when being used?
And... just after you've nodded off to sleep, it plows you into a traffic barrier :-D

Seriously though - those gloves and masks are making it worse for them - they don't appear to be anywhere they require them, they haven't even fitted the masks correctly. It's probably just for dramatics. They're doing sweet-F.A. else.

I wonder if these "DIY" vents have to go through FDA? It costs a fortune, is stringent and takes forever... normally. The concept is very simple, compared to the reality.
 
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https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...-if-coronavirus-restrictions-lifted/23975101/
[h=1]New projections show summer spike if coronavirus restrictions lifted[/h]
That's a terribly misleading article.
If President Donald Trump lifts shelter-in-place orders after 30 days
Neither Trump nor the FedGov has issued any "shelter-in-place orders". That has been left to the individual states and municipalities, and some states have never had such orders at all.

Where is the catastrophe in North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Arkansas and Iowa?

For that matter where is the catastrophe in Sweden, which also has very few restrictions?
http://www.thecommentator.com/artic...er_of_all_s_t_storms_if_sweden_pulls_this_off

One-size-fits-all policies are not appropriate everywhere. What may be appropriate in a densely populated place like NYC may not be appropriate in rural areas. Besides, people are will not immediately return to crowding into bars, restaurants, and sports stadiums, and so on, even if they're allowed to.

Bottom line: The lock-downs simply cannot last forever.
 
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