DSG 7 speed DQ200 - Shift time measurment

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My DSG seems slow to shift, it's as if both clutches are open for too long when changing up - I can hear the revs rise momentarily and the rev counter nudges up slightly.
Is it possible to measure the time between clutch operations?
Or maybe I could plot the engine RPM to show the spikes during shift, and therefore a) prove if there is an issue, b) get at least an idea of the shift delay.

Any pointers to get me started much appreciated :-) Thanks.
 
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Welcome to the forum.

You must have read posts on here? If you have a problem/query you post a full AutoScan in between CODE tags [CODE] Full AutoScan [/CODE]
 
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Yep, and Auto Scan would be handy here, since it would help identify the data that your transmission has available to be logged, and to see if maybe there's a clutch adaptation possible.

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Ok, thanks - hopefully this is what's needed...
To add to the info - I already successfully completed the basic settings of the DSG including the driving sequence to complete the calibrations, but that didn't improve matters :(
The car is under warranty but the dealer doesn't agree that there is an issue seemingly based upon the lack of a fault code - they say that they have no justification to spend time on the vehicle.
I'm not saying they are wrong, but if I could show them some data, and better still collect a comparison from another car, that will hopefully convince them, or me, as the case may be.
Thanks again.

Code:
Chassis Type: 1T (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 18 19 25 2E 42 44 46 52 56 61 62
          69 72 77

VIN: WVGZZZ1TZDW052692   Mileage: 57210km-35548miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC)       Labels: 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 PJ    HW: 03L 907 425 C
   Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H43 1842  
   Revision: --H43---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 00254014032500080000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023PJ 003004
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023NB_VW36.rod
   VCID: 7DDF13A8EC54ACC904D-8028

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.lbl
   Part No SW: 0AM 300 058 S    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
   Component: GSG DSG AG7     431 5270  
   Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501210296255
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 62324 000 1048576
   VCID: 41A7AF58182C0829205-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL    HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 333B4016092706FCCC1102ED901B6081310150
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 7DDF13A8E454ACC904D-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 3C8-907-336.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 426 BG    HW: 7N0 907 426 BG
   Component: AC Manuell    H20 0505  
   Revision: 00001018    
   Coding: 0010004002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X A01010
   ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X_SE36.rod
   VCID: 7AD518B4FD7A9BF121F-802F

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 084 H    HW: 5K0 937 084 H
   Component: BCM PQ35 B    021 0068  
   Revision: BA021001    
   Coding: 48180A38E025F1E0408800C0140000644B518E08526DA160648042000040
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3753C18086E846999E1-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T2 955 119 A
   Component: Wischer 05101  26  0512 
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 271012 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0630ED

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 7N0 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  002 0206 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist
Cannot be reached

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1T0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 909 605 E    HW: 1T0 909 605 E
   Component: 02 AIRBAG VW8   022 0100  
   Revision: 02022000    Serial number: 003K4D082JN6  
   Coding: 0012338
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3753C18046E846999E1-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332QSME09255764D

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342QSME0925284CI

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME05234B56D

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME23255762A

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 AH    HW: 5K0 953 549 B
   Component: Lenks.Modul   008 0080  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:  90440LJD000YC
   Coding: 1882140000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_SE36.rod
   VCID: 76CD0C84C962FF91457-8023

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0033 
   Serial number: 0326564             
   Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 920 975 C    HW: 1T0 920 975 C
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0705  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 181B00
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod
   VCID: 3851C2BC83F649E197B-806D

No fault code found.

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Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-815-071.clb
   Part No: 7N0 963 271 E
   Component: Zuheizer        051 2940  
   Revision: 00051000    Serial number: 09024297000000
   Coding: 0000011
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 364DCC8441E2BF91857-8063

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AG    HW: 7N0 907 530 AG
   Component: J533  Gateway H53 1634  
   Revision:   H53       Serial number: 271012F6000283
   Coding: 358003
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 75CF0B88DC64F4894CD-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 F    HW: 5N0 035 342 F
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H18 0546  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7663744586    
   Coding: 010100
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 2A75E8F4455AEB7111F-807F

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 T    HW: 1T0 959 701 T
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2122  
   Coding: 0000693
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 48B1B27C3B163961E7B-801D

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3305  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 3753C18046E846999E1-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 R    HW: 1T0 959 702 R
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2122  
   Coding: 0000693
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 47B3B14036083619EE1-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 186 AQ    HW: 1K0 035 186 AQ
   Component: Radio RCD310  004 0119  
   Revision: 01000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z2M9675630
   Coding: 01000400040009
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 75CF0B88DC64F4894CD-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels: 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 7N0 907 530 AG
   Component: Batt.regelung H53 1634  
   Serial number: 271012F6000283
   Coding: 01040859
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 71C73F98A80CD8A9905-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 A    HW: 5K0 959 703 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2104  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 3245F094AD8AA3B1A9F-8067

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels: 1K0-907-383-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F    HW: 1K0 907 383 F
   Component: Anhaenger     H09 0100  
   Revision: 3A001001    Serial number: 00008030512272
   Coding: 0100000100000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3041FA9C638691A1DFB-8065

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 A    HW: 5K0 959 704 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2104  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 334BF5905290AAB9A29-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 J    HW: 7P6 035 730 J
   Component: TELEFON       H15 3200  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007663705544
   Coding: 0A11000000010101
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: EV_UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 3957C7B8B8FC50E9685-806C

No fault code found.
 
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OK, that's a straightforward (non-UDS!) transmission still. Have a look at MVB 005 and 006 for all the speeds. It should be straightforward to log these as you drive. There's also detailed data bout the clutches, for clutch 1 its in MVB 090-099 and for clutch 2, it's in 110-119.

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Thanks for the pointers - I'm away for a week or so now, but I'll look at this as soon as I can and report back...
 
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