2009 GOLF TDi DSG DQ200 GEARBOX HELP !

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2009 mk6 golf 1.6tdi dsg with gearbox issue, we have had a new mechatronics fitted and the original tcm software cloned onto it but still got same fault !
car doesn't know which gear to select, bangs between gears, sometimes when you put into drive the car stalls, slows down whilst driving as if you were pressing brakes until it changes gear and then goes again ? possible adaptations ? tried the basic settings a few times and it drives ok for about a mile then starts playing up again.
had new clutches last year (apparently according to customer ?)
any help appreciated ? possible coding issue ??
Code:
Sunday,22,March,2020,11:43:45:17628
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)
Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW215483   License Plate: GOLF TDI DSG 59
Mileage: 183020km-113723mi   Repair Order: 


Chassis Type: 1K-VW36 (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 2E 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAW215483   Mileage: 183020km-113723miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 997 558 A    HW: 03L 906 023 A
   Component: R4 1.6l TDI   H23 9980  
   Revision: --H23---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 00254014032500080000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L997558A 003002
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L997557M.rod
   VCID: 3B7F76B5B2217C97B0-806E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0AM 300 053 J    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
   Component: GSG DSG AG7     451 3012  
   Revision: 00045014    Serial number: CU501905295635
   Coding: 0000024
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 336F5E955271B4D768-8066

3 Faults Found:
006011 - Clutch 1 
               P177B - 003 - Tolerance Limit Reached
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100011
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 10
                    Mileage: 183024 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.08.13
                    Time: 11:33:30

005925 - Comparison of Transmission Output Speeds 1 + 2 
               P1725 - 001 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 10
                    Mileage: 183025 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.08.13
                    Time: 11:34:36

006012 - Clutch 2 
               P177C - 003 - Tolerance Limit Reached
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100011
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 10
                    Mileage: 183026 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.08.13
                    Time: 11:37:51


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AJ    HW: 1K0 907 379 AJ
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H30 0107  
   Revision: 00H30001    
   Coding: 133B200D092300FFC80F04EC901C0080310000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 7AF1B3B1F59B859FEB-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 907 336 AB    HW: 3C8 907 336 AB
   Component: Climatic      H14 0305  
   Revision: 00009001    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatic A01005
   ROD: EV_ClimaBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 6DDB88EDBCD522277E-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 084 B    HW: 1K0 937 084 B
   Component: BCM PQ35  B   103 0573  
   Revision: 00103 AF    
   Coding: 48180A3A9025F1C044000080340000E443510088536D8160648000200000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 2D5B48ED7455E2273E-8078

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 F  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 20100  21  0512 
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 101109 05  54  0402 
   Coding: 0330AD

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H09 9002 

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 655 D    HW: 5K0 959 655 D
   Component: AirbagVW10    037 0606  
   Serial number: 003FKRA0FDK.  
   Coding: 00003133
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01011
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 3B7F76B5B2217C97B0-806E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H01 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME3F19554AZZZ2

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H01 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME2617664CZZZ 

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 3512QSME28544216ZZZN

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 3522QSME06423D65ZZZV

1 Fault Found:
9440017 - Driver's side; side-airbag igniter 
          B100B 11 [136] - Short to Ground
          MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 14
                    Mileage: 182998 km
                    Date: 2020.03.19
                    Time: 01:52:04


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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CP    HW: 1K0 953 549 CP
   Component: J0527           053 0111  
   Coding: 0001034
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 0201CB515D4BCD5FB3-8056

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5K0 920 960 N    HW: 5K0 920 960 N
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0308  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 470B00
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04052
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 387569B98317578F5D-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AD    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway   H16 0231  
   Revision:   H16       Serial number: 4320K09B110809
   Coding: ED807F06000212000003
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 69D3FCFD403D3E0712-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0308  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03005
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6AD183F18D3B351F1B-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 B    HW: 5N0 035 342 B
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0090  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7667656908    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 2649B7C151A3D17FFF-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 701 B    HW: 5K0 959 701 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2114  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3163549DA86D86C71A-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3001  
   Revision: 00H17000    
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3163549DA86D86C71A-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 702 D    HW: 5K0 959 702 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2140  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 346D5D89577FB3EF71-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 186 AA    HW: 1K0 035 186 AA
   Component: Radio RCD310  016 0049  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: VWZ1Z2I7194866
   Coding: 0100040004
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 65CBF0CD6C251A6736-8030

1 Fault Found:
00873 - Bass Speaker Rear Right (R17) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 241
                    Mileage: 183018 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.08.11
                    Time: 13:02:27


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 C    HW: 5K0 959 703 C
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 346D5D89577FB3EF71-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 C    HW: 5K0 959 704 C
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 356B608D5C05AAE746-8060

No fault code found.

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had new clutches last year (apparently according to customer ?)
Any chance those clutches were Chinese Replacement Auto Parts?

The faults seem to point directly at the clutches...

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Dud you know that mechanical components can not be circumvented by a controller being replaced or failure to set new adaption limits when tolerance have been altered from or too baseline?

OP are you aware that firmware levels appear way behind for the ECU & TCU at 9980/3012?

Sure makes you wonder if any of this is under warranty extension or for useful life & even in the Queens Country for Her Royal subjects being violated?
 
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Clutches sound as though they were not shimmed properly. Run the latest software as there have been issue with this and a full adaption drive...…. Also pattern parts as UWE said as there have been an updated clutch pack kit in the last few months. Improves shift quality but as I said only as good as the software and the installer if you knows what youre doing. Also has the needle roller been replaced in the crankshaft?

Mandatory whenever gearbox is removed and reinstalled.

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Looks pretty much like the clutch unit maybe the adjusters are worn, but i would recommend to recheck your software version, what flash file are you using? use MVB 041 to view flash file, and why is your coding 0000024???? on the 0AM is usually 20, instead of 24?

also did the dual mass flywheel was changed on this car?? looks like the input speed sensor G182 does not equal the engine speed when in comparison, the control unit need this signal to control the clutches and to calculate slip, the TCU is good?
 
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