RS5 Spoiler

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Hi,

I'm about to install the RS5 electrical spoiler on my S5. Most of it is pretty clear and understandable. I'm just confused over some things in the Wiring Diagram.
There are a couple of connection that I need help with.
B528 Connection 1 (LIN BUS) in main wiring harness; B473 Connection 9 in main wiring harness and B490 Connection 26 in main wiring harness.
What am I looking for exactly? Do they look like earth points or do I just have to open up the main harness and splice into the wires?

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And thank you Ross Tech for the videos about learning how to read the wiring diagrams.
 
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that's correct, you splice into the wire, anywhere you find it / anywhere convenient.
 
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How do I identify the B528, B473 & B490 wires in the main wiring harness? There is no legend for them to tell color coding or anything like that.
 
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Look at the wiring diagrams you have posted, what color wires are shown on them?
 
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Yes I see those colors but I might be misunderstanding something. For example the first drawing, the wire going from J223 to J393 on the way it has to be spliced into B528 (LIN bus). As I understand I have to find the LIN bus wire and I suppose that is a different color coding than the wire from J224 to J393. I'm confused on how to locate the B528 in the wiring harness.
 
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B528 is already a splice point, means that the wire can go somewhere else, means that you'd probably find B528 on another page of the wiring diagram.

just find the wire and splice anywhere along its lenght. you know where it starts from and where it goes to, it's easy to splice close to control units.
 
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Okay. Thank you. I guess I will have a better picture once I actually start wiring.
 
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you also need check that central conv need support
 
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I did. It has the 'Spoiler Installed Option'. :)
 
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Hey!

It's been a while and I have made some progress with the retrofit. The spoiler is installed and operating but I have a new problem and thought I'll continue on with this thread and hopefully find some help.
As you will see in the video below, my spoiler will not sit flush when retracted. It overshoots the target.

At first I thought it might just be a coding error and module 46 has to be thought where the spoiler zero position is. I did not find any basic settings nor adaptations related to the spoiler.
What I did find is that Measuring Blocks groups 160; 162 and 165 seem to have something to do with it. The numbers keep changing when I extend and retract the spoiler but sadly the fields in those blocks have no units so I can't say what the numbers correlate to.

From what I have gathered is that there are 2 limit switches ( F135 & F136 ) on the spoiler motor. So far I have been concentrating on the F135 which should be the lower limit switch. I also opened up the spoiler motor and thought maybe I can adjust the switch somehow but I found it to be one of the hall switches. So to my knowledge it can't just be moved around to specific target.

Even as I did the wiring myself I have also double checked the wiring from the motor to the control unit J223 and it is as it should per wiring diagram.

[video]https://1drv.ms/v/s!AkgJezHiOxFvlAWlDbudLeAQiAnG?e=1SFgoc[/video]


Code:
Wednesday,08,July,2020,16:15:16:39506
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ8T89A0xxxxx   License Plate: 
Mileage:    Repair Order: auto scan 08.07.20



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Chassis Type: 8T-AU48 (8T0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 0E 10 13 15 16 17 18 19 1B 1E 36 37
          3C 42 46 47 52 53 56 57 6C 77

VIN: WAUZZZ8T89A0xxxxx   Mileage: 291730km-181272miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1B-Active Steering -- Status: OK 0000
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
57-TV Tuner -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAUA)       Labels:. 079-907-560-CAU.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 560 C    HW: 8T0 907 560 
   Component: 4.2l V8/4V    H10 0002  
   Revision: 76H10---    
   Coding: 01140003190F0220
   Shop #: WSC 00458 995 83769
   VCID: 3A2D307DBC563CFB5DF-806E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0B6-927-156.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 927 158 B    HW: 0B6 927 156 
   Component: 0B6 42 FSIRdW H04 0030  
   Revision: --H04---    
   Coding: 001001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL651 A01001
   ROD: EV_TCMAL651.rod
   VCID: 3537234195C8D383B0D-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 8K0-907-379-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 AD    HW: 8K0 907 379 AD
   Component: ESP8 quattro  H04 0060  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 126D00
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 7BA3F579F3ECC5F3069-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 CQ    HW: 8K0 907 064 CQ
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H08 0437  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 050000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 015F87919100AF235C5-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D    HW: 8K0 905 852 D
   Component: ELVAUDIB8  H35 0039 
   Serial number: 0208000032706014    

No fault code found.

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass (J521)       Labels:. 8T0-959-760.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 760 B    HW: 8T0 959 760 B
   Component: MEM-BFS       H09 0043  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001001104813
   Coding: C80170250F2400001000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 42DD489DD486743B05F-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 8T0-035-7xx-07-H.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 035 729 P    HW: 4E0 035 729 A
   Component: Interfacebox    H43 5170  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 331GT087526681
   Coding: 0025001
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 46D5548DF4AE481B297-8012

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8T0 919 609 C
   Component: E0380 BedienteilH08 0100

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000109019

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0102.07.080000000100010073ÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010073ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:. 8Tx-820-043-3Z.clb
   Part No SW: 8T1 820 043 AD    HW: 8T1 820 043 AD
   Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H06 0140  
   Revision: C3000000    Serial number: 0103.06.080346
   Coding: 480A0006
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 73B3DD59DBBC8DB35E9-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 D    HW: 8K0 907 063 D
   Component: BCM1 1.0      H22 0253  
   Revision: 05022001    Serial number: 00000000071630
   Coding: 2600D0954034AF311709000000005D5D0F9CC3C80001014100  0000
   Shop #: WSC 52203 462 52877
   VCID: 303912556A2AF6ABE3B-8064

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T1 955 119 C    HW: 8J1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS 020708  H13 0040 
   Serial number: SWFBIE 0000123      
   Coding: 00FD11

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS  H04 0003 
   Serial number: 10175372            
   Coding: 02532C

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 E    HW: 8K0 941 531 E
   Component: E1 - LDS  H07 0070 
   Serial number: 00000000002012070047

1 Fault Found:
01771 - Control Module for Headlight Range (J431) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 120
                    Mileage: 291620 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.07.07
                    Time: 17:13:00


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Address 0E: Media Player 1        Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
   Part No SW: 8T1 035 110 C    HW: 8T1 035 110 C
   Component: MP3-Changer     H43 0390  
   Revision: 00043003    Serial number: AUZ5ZBH8492661
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2A0D003D40F68C7B2DF-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 8K0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 919 475 E    HW: 8K0 919 475 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0020  
   Revision: 11001001    Serial number: 52830819300396
   Coding: 300102
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3B233579B36C05F3469-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 561     HW: 8K0 907 561 
   Component: ACC2          H07 0080  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 002BA0
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 6FBBD129B794A953BA1-803A

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 8K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 B    HW: 8K0 959 655 B
   Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H26 0410  
   Serial number: 0038JD178G6   
   Coding: 30313433363030303030554A304C38543053
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 A02007
   ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_A02.rod
   VCID: 3C213665B6E202CB4F3-8068

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 6334MSME3D733253C

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6344MSME3D356D21K

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 6352QSME77284F03N

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6362QSME78622475J

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 63732SME7F0745734

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 63832SME4E330F185

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 G    HW: 8K0 953 568 G
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H12 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 90315HFQ000F8 
   Coding: 00003E
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3E253C6DA07E10DB617-806A

   Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0003 

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 920 930 T    HW: 8T0 920 930 T
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H14 0221  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 97Y19E778     
   Coding: 0F0701002F000008000000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 47CB5989FFA45113D21-8012

1 Fault Found:
01771 - Control Module for Headlight Range (J431) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 120
                    Mileage: 291620 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.07.07
                    Time: 17:13:37


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Address 18: Aux. Heat (J364)       Labels:. 8R0-265-105.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 265 105 D    HW: 4H0 265 105 D
   Component: Standheizung  H24 0260  
   Revision: 66006006    Serial number: 20111126155722
   Coding: 4D2000
   Shop #: WSC 01455 003 1048576
   VCID: 2313ED192BDC5D336E9-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 L    HW: 8T0 907 468 L
   Component: GW-BEM 5CAN-M H10 0092  
   Revision: FB402044    Serial number: 4400F08627811F
   Coding: 000303
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 4ACD60BDECB6AC7BCDF-801E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 B    HW: 8K0 915 181 B
   Component: J367-BDM  H04 0150 
   Serial number: 1802A91A180608      

No fault code found.

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Address 1B: Active Steering (J792)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 144 B    HW: 8K0 907 144 B
   Component: DYNAMIKLENK.  H05 0490  
   Revision: 50000003    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 840000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2E050C2D701EE05BF17-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 1E: Media Player 2 (R199)       Labels:. 4E0-035-785.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 035 785 F    HW: 4E0 035 785 C
   Component: SG ext.Player H15 0850  
   Revision: 00000000    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2B030539430C9573D69-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels:. 8T0-959-760.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 760 B    HW: 8T0 959 760 B
   Component: MEM-FS        H09 0043  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001001105079
   Coding: C8197B250F2400001000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 42DD489DD486743B05F-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 888 P    HW: 4E0 919 887 M
   Component: MNS ECE         H51 1060  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 333GQ087590324
   Shop #: WSC 01088 995 83683
   VCID: 3B233579BF6C05F3469-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 566 B    HW: 4L0 907 566 B
   Component: J0769_SWA_MasterH01 0040  
   Revision: 00H01000    Serial number: 6PZ 009 014-13
   Coding: 0000104
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3635244D844ED89BB97-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 907 568 B
   Component: J0770_SWA_Slave_H01 0040

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6PZ 009 014-33

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 5F15.07.0800H010003CD10134ÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: D10134ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 793     HW: 8K0 959 793 
   Component: TSG FA        H09 0149  
   Revision:             Serial number: 	8
   Coding: 011C12225E002201
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 7DA7FB61EDF8CBC338D-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 CQ    HW: 8K0 907 064 CQ
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H08 0437  
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0527482987    
   Coding: 011A0E80003985850030000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 015F87919100AF235C5-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 951 177 
   Component: DWA-Sensor  H02 0040 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H03 1301 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591     HW: 8R0 959 591 
   Component: J245EE16SKB10  H01 0180 
   Serial number: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJ

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4G8 959 252     HW: 4G8 959 252 
   Component: HSP-SG  H09 0027 
   Serial number: WA101433000000296878

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:. 8T0-035-223-BOM.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 035 223 T    HW: 8T0 035 223 F
   Component: DSP Prem      H14 0400  
   Revision: 00H14003    Serial number: 34814002106501
   Coding: 020101
   Shop #: WSC 12336 024 394758
   VCID: 3FDB4169A77419D36A1-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 792     HW: 8K0 959 792 
   Component: TSG BF        H09 0149  
   Revision:             Serial number: …AA
   Coding: 011C12225E002201
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 7CA1F665F6E2C2CB0F3-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (J540)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 E    HW: 8K0 907 801 E
   Component: EPB Audi B8   H05 0060  
   Revision: 00000003    Serial number: 00000000168393
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 313F17516120FFA3EC5-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 Q    HW: 4F0 035 541 L
   Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0620  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 336G.087576724
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2E050C2D7C1EE05BF17-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 57: TV Tuner        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 148 D    HW: 4E0 919 148 
   Component: R78 TVHybridDVB     0440  
   Revision: R0H06000    Serial number: 76300801631401
   Coding: 0000201
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2411EE0522D25A0B173-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 8T0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 441 B    HW: 4L0 907 441 A
   Component: J772__Rearview      0070  
   Revision: --H12---    Serial number: 525PA8-J86902M
   Coding: 1021008
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 372B294983442193A21-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 4E0-910-336.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 336 L    HW: 4E0 862 335 
   Component: Handyvorb2      H20 1120  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005195318
   Coding: 0010910
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2B0305394F0C9573D69-807E

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:56, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.1V)-----------

Still hoping that it Is just a matter of changing an adaptation to set a new end position.
 
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Maybe post Controller Maps in the different positions.

[Applications]
[Controller Channel Map]
- Controller Address = 46
- Login or security code: Leave blank
- Function: Measuring values
- Output: CSV file
[Go]

File is placed in c:\Ross-Tech\Logs

There is also spoiler info at MWB 092
 
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Here is the CSV output with Spoiler extended
Code:
;SW:8K0-907-064-CQ   HW:8K0-907-064-CQ ---  Central Conv.
;Component:BCM2 2.0      H08 0437, Coding:011A0E80003985850030000000000000
;Wednesday,08,July,2020,23:23:32:39506
;VCDS Version: Release 20.4.1  Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
;VCID: 015F87919100AF235C5-8054

Group,Field 1,Data type,Field 2,Data type,Field 3,Data type,Field 4,Data type,
1,12.20 V,,12.20 V,,12.10 V,,    0000,,
2,Not Oper.,,Not Oper.,,Not Installed,,Closed,,
3,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Oper.,,
4,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Oper.,,
5,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
6,Door Closed,,Not Oper.,,Unlocked,,Not Safe,,
7,Door Closed,,Not Oper.,,Unlocked,,Not Safe,,
8,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
9,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
10,    0011,,    0000,,    0000,, ,,
11,0,,0,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
12,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,OFF,,Not Installed,,
13,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,0.0,,0.0,,
14,0.00 km/h,,Init. value,, ,, ,,
15,Retracted,,      00,,0.000 A,,20.0°C,,
16,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,      00,,OFF,,
17,0.5°,,Inactive,,6.5°,,Inactive,,
18,1.0,,1.0,,1.0,,3.0,,
19,1.0,,1.0,,1.0,,1.0,,
20,Inactive,,Inactive,,Inactive,,      00,,
21,255,,2127:15:31,,255:255 h,, ,,
22,255,,2127:15:31,,255:255 h,, ,,
23,255,,2127:15:31,,255:255 h,, ,,
24,255,,2127:15:31,,255:255 h,, ,,
25,     000,,      00,,OFF,, ,,
26,Not Oper.,,Lid close,,Not Connected,,Not Oper.,,
27,No,,ON,,Not Installed,,    0000,,
28,  010000,,00000000,,00000000,,      00,,
29, 0000000,, 0000000,, 0000000,, ,,
30,0.0,, 0000110,,      00,,10000110,,
31,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
32,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
33,0.0,,17.0°C,,  000001,, 0000000,,
34,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
35,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
36,21.0°C,,49.0,,9.9°C,,16.7°C,,
38, ,,10000110,, ,, ,,
39,00000000,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
41,OFF,,OFF,,OFF,,OFF,,
42,      00,,Not Installed,,5.0,,      11,,
43,10100111,,00010000,,00000000,,      01,,
44,      00,,Not Installed,,OFF,,Not Installed,,
45,ON,,OFF,,ON,, ,,
46,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,     000,,      00,,
47,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,, ,,
48,2.0,,0.0,,4.0,,0.0,,
50,4,,OPEN,,Unlock,,1,,
51,5,,OPEN,,Single Door,,1,,
52,5,,OPEN,,Single Door,,1,,
53,4,,Closed,,safe,,1,,
54,19,,OPEN,,Unlock,,0,,
55,2020:07:09,,0:17 h,, ,, ,,
56,2020:07:08,,22:25 h,, ,, ,,
57,2020:07:08,,22:12 h,, ,, ,,
58,2020:07:08,,21:31 h,, ,, ,,
59,2020:07:08,,21:31 h,, ,, ,,
60,0,,   00000,,0,,   00000,,
61,9.0,,  000000,,10000110,,10000110,,
68,Not Installed,, ,, ,, ,,
73,0,,00011000,,    0010,, ,,
74,10000111,,  000100,,      00,, ,,
75,01000000,,00100010,,00010010,,01111100,,
76,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
77,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
78,217.0,,66.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
79,0.0,,7.0,,0.0,,4.0,,
80,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
81,0.0,,        ,,        ,,        ,,
85,00000000,,00000000,,00000000,,00000000,,
86,0x0000,,0x0000,,0x0000,,0x0000,,
87,0x0000,,0x0000,,0x0000,, ,,
88,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
90,167.0,,01000100,,0.0,,00000110,,
91,00000000,,11110000,,00000011,,00000000,,
92,122.0,,00100010,,10000100,,00000001,,
93,Not Occup.,,11111110,,Not Occup.,,Not Occup.,,
98,0.0,,4.0,,29488.0,,765.0,,
100,01,, ,, ,, ,,
101,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
102,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
103,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
104,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
105,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
106,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
107,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
108,00000000,,0.0,,01101011 11100111,,124.0,,
110,--,,--,,--,,--,,
111,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
112,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
113,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
120,--,,--,,--,,--,,
160,3.0,,188.0,,1.0,,0.0,,
161,0.0,,1.0,,0.0,,0.00 V,,
162,6.0,,22.0,,4.0,,22.0,,
163,2018:02:04,, ,, ,, ,,
165,16.0,,49.0,,2.0,,6.0,,
166,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,3.0,,
167,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
168,2018:02:04,, ,, ,, ,,
169,2018:02:04,, ,, ,, ,,
240,10101100 11110101,,10101000 11110101,,0.0,,11834.0,,
241,00001010 00100010,,00100010 00110011,,00001010 00001010,,00001010 00001010,,
242,11110011 11111111,,00000010 00000000,,00000000 00000000,,01001010 00000000,,
243,01011010 10100101,,10100101 01011010,,511.0,,1530.0,,
244,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
245,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
246,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,

Here is the CSV output with Spoiler retracted
Code:
;SW:8K0-907-064-CQ   HW:8K0-907-064-CQ ---  Central Conv.
;Component:BCM2 2.0      H08 0437, Coding:011A0E80003985850030000000000000
;Wednesday,08,July,2020,23:25:18:39506
;VCDS Version: Release 20.4.1  Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
;VCID: 015F87919100AF235C5-8054

Group,Field 1,Data type,Field 2,Data type,Field 3,Data type,Field 4,Data type,
1,12.20 V,,12.20 V,,12.10 V,,    0000,,
2,Not Oper.,,Not Oper.,,Not Installed,,Closed,,
3,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Oper.,,
4,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Oper.,,
5,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
6,Door Closed,,Not Oper.,,Unlocked,,Not Safe,,
7,Door Closed,,Not Oper.,,Unlocked,,Not Safe,,
8,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
9,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
10,    0011,,    0000,,    0000,, ,,
11,0,,0,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
12,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,OFF,,Not Installed,,
13,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,0.0,,0.0,,
14,0.00 km/h,,Init. value,, ,, ,,
15,Retracted,,      00,,0.000 A,,20.0°C,,
16,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,      00,,OFF,,
17,0.5°,,Inactive,,6.5°,,Inactive,,
18,1.0,,1.0,,1.0,,3.0,,
19,1.0,,1.0,,1.0,,1.0,,
20,Inactive,,Inactive,,Inactive,,      00,,
21,255,,2127:15:31,,255:255 h,, ,,
22,255,,2127:15:31,,255:255 h,, ,,
23,255,,2127:15:31,,255:255 h,, ,,
24,255,,2127:15:31,,255:255 h,, ,,
25,     000,,      00,,OFF,, ,,
26,Not Oper.,,Lid close,,Not Connected,,Not Oper.,,
27,No,,ON,,Not Installed,,    0000,,
28,  010000,,00000000,,00000000,,      00,,
29, 0000000,, 0000000,, 0000000,, ,,
30,0.0,, 0000110,,      00,,10000110,,
31,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
32,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
33,0.0,,17.0°C,,  000001,, 0000000,,
34,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
35,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
36,22.0°C,,48.0,,10.4°C,,16.8°C,,
38, ,,10000110,, ,, ,,
39,00000000,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
41,OFF,,OFF,,OFF,,OFF,,
42,      00,,Not Installed,,5.0,,      11,,
43,10100111,,00010000,,00000000,,      01,,
44,      00,,Not Installed,,OFF,,Not Installed,,
45,ON,,OFF,,ON,, ,,
46,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,     000,,      00,,
47,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,, ,,
48,2.0,,0.0,,4.0,,0.0,,
50,4,,OPEN,,Unlock,,1,,
51,5,,OPEN,,Single Door,,1,,
52,5,,OPEN,,Single Door,,1,,
53,4,,Closed,,safe,,1,,
54,19,,OPEN,,Unlock,,0,,
55,2020:07:09,,0:17 h,, ,, ,,
56,2020:07:08,,22:25 h,, ,, ,,
57,2020:07:08,,22:12 h,, ,, ,,
58,2020:07:08,,21:31 h,, ,, ,,
59,2020:07:08,,21:31 h,, ,, ,,
60,0,,   00000,,0,,   00000,,
61,4.0,,  000000,,10000110,,10000110,,
68,Not Installed,, ,, ,, ,,
73,0,,00011000,,    0010,, ,,
74,10000111,,  000100,,      00,, ,,
75,01000000,,00100010,,00010010,,01111100,,
76,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
77,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
78,217.0,,66.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
79,0.0,,7.0,,0.0,,4.0,,
80,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
81,0.0,,        ,,        ,,        ,,
85,00000000,,00000000,,00000000,,00000000,,
86,0x0000,,0x0000,,0x0000,,0x0000,,
87,0x0000,,0x0000,,0x0000,, ,,
88,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
90,202.0,,01001100,,0.0,,00000110,,
91,00000000,,11110000,,00000011,,00000000,,
92,71.0,,00000111,,10000010,,00000001,,
93,Not Occup.,,11111110,,Not Occup.,,Not Occup.,,
98,0.0,,4.0,,29488.0,,765.0,,
100,01,, ,, ,, ,,
101,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
102,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
103,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
104,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
105,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
106,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
107,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
108,00000000,,0.0,,01101011 11100111,,124.0,,
110,--,,--,,--,,--,,
111,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
112,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
113,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,Not Installed,,
120,--,,--,,--,,--,,
160,7.0,,27.0,,0.0,,1.0,,
161,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.00 V,,
162,22.0,,6.0,,22.0,,4.0,,
163,2018:02:04,, ,, ,, ,,
165,32.0,,49.0,,0.0,,6.0,,
166,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,5.0,,
167,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
168,2018:02:04,, ,, ,, ,,
169,2018:02:04,, ,, ,, ,,
240,10101100 11110101,,10101000 11110101,,0.0,,11834.0,,
241,00001010 00100010,,00100010 00110011,,00001010 00001010,,00001010 00001010,,
242,11110011 11111111,,00000101 00000000,,00000000 00000000,,01001010 00000000,,
243,01011010 10100101,,10100101 01011010,,511.0,,1530.0,,
244,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
245,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
246,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,0.0,,
I do want to point out that group 092 field 1 & 2 act very erratically even when the spoiler is stationary and not in transition.
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Here is the CSV output with Spoiler extended
Please copy data from the csv file direct with Notepad, not excel or similar, the formating of status values brake.

I do want to point out that group 092 field 1 & 2 act very erratically even when the spoiler is stationary and not in transition.

See also this thread.
 
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Hey, I edited the previous post and copied the CSV contents from notepad.

I also went through your suggested thread. Biffyg seemed to have a similar problem although his/hers spoiler would show a fault code, mine does not.

Going back to MWB 092.
Field 1 - Erratic readings spoiler stationary or in transition.
Field 2 - status for switch E127, seems to be erratic at first but it goes through a repeated sequence and I can make out that it does show when the button is pressed/released/activated.
Field 3 - status for the limit F135/F136 switches. Clearly shows when spoiler is in transition and when either of the switches is activated.
Field 4 - don't know what status this shows. It is constantly 00000001.

I also looked at the video for measuring the hall sensor voltage.
Measuring the voltage I got 10.8V. I know it is supposed to be at 5V ( according to video ), so I thought maybe I'm measuring something wrong and kept at it and funnily it was 4.67V for a brief time.
But it returned to 10.8V. I could not measure the running voltage because I need someone to push the E127 button, so maybe later I can come back with those figures as well.

Now that being said, there was one thing that made my head hurt.
There are 4 wires going into the motor. 2 signal wires and 2 power wires. There is a visual difference of the thickness of the wires. My logic says that the thicker ones are the + and - for the motor power and thinner ones for the hall sensor signal wires.
According to the WD 1 thin wire is signal for the hall sensor and 1 thick one is ground for the hall sensor. As it did not make sense to me, I took of the cap of the motor to look inside.
The WD correlates to the upper left and lower right pins being the signal wires for the hall sensor.

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I can clearly see that the upper two pins connect to the hall sensor on PCB and the lower 2 run into the motor.
Can it be that the WD is wrong somehow, but then again I don't know how the motor is running at all then. I'm no electrical engineer and I might be completely wrong but I am still curious enough to dissect things to find out how they work. :)
 
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Which model does the spoiler items come from ?

A long shot, it looks like CAN Gateway has different coding for RS5 with spoiler.
00E303 (maybe especially Byte 1 Bit 5)
But if that is correct, your CAN Gateway is to old, need software version 117.
 
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The spoiler comes from an 2011 RS5.

Did not know that the CAN gateway has anything to do with it. I've read other retrofits about it and the thing that people have to check is that the 46 Central Convenience Module supports the spoiler. Mine previously did not and I replaced it.
I looked into module 19 coding and under Byte 1 I only have a drop down list with 2 options.
If it is too old, is it possible to just update the software?

Code:
Address 19: CAN Gateway
Control Module Part Number: 8T0 907 468 L
  Component and/or Version: GW-BEM 5CAN-M H10 0092
           Software Coding: 000303
            Work Shop Code: WSC 06325
                      VCID: 4ACD60BDECB6AC7BCDF-801E

Advanced Identification
     Serial number: 4400F08627811F
     Identification: TF7-MNL
     Revision: FB402044
     Date: 27.06.08
     Manufacturer number: 0F01
     Test stand number: 811F
Flash Status
     Programming Attempts(application): 0
     Successful Attempts(application): 0
     Programming Status: 00000000
     Flash Date: 0000.00.00
     Flash Tool Code: 00000 000 00000
Software
     OSEK-OS: 03.02.00
     HiSpd Net: 01.07.00
     LIN 2.0: 00.01.12
     MOST Net: 01.0A.03
Misc.
     Hardware number: 8T0 907 468 L
     Workshop System Name: J533
VCDS Info:
       VCID: 4ACD60BDECB6AC7BCDF-801E
       Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
 
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Did not know that the CAN gateway has anything to do with it.
I don't know if it is needed, as I wrote, long shot.
I have Autoscan of 7 RS5 2011 that have Spoiler with this coding, but it can certainly mean something else.
These are the only one out of 710 CAN Gateways that have Bit 5 active, Bit 6 and 7 are often active (from 2010, about efficiency).

8T0 907 468 AD 8T0 907 468 K GW-BEM 4CAN-M H09 0117 00E303
8T0 907 468 AD 8T0 907 468 K GW-BEM 4CAN-M H09 0117 00E303
8T0 907 468 AD 8T0 907 468 K GW-BEM 4CAN-M H09 0117 00E303
8T0 907 468 AD 8T0 907 468 K GW-BEM 4CAN-M H09 0117 00E303
8T0 907 468 AE 8T0 907 468 L GW-BEM 5CAN-M H10 0117 00E303
8T0 907 468 AE 8T0 907 468 L GW-BEM 5CAN-M H10 0117 00E303
8T0 907 468 AE 8T0 907 468 L GW-BEM 5CAN-M H10 0117 00E303
 
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Is there no way to tell 46 where the spoiler is supposed to stop? Like through adaptations or basic settings?
 
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Is there no way to tell 46 where the spoiler is supposed to stop? Like through adaptations or basic settings?

I have not found anything.
I guess it is done by hall-element and F135/136.
 
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HEUREKA!!!
Found it. It is channel 89 in adaptations. My guess is the number there represents revolutions.
It was originally set to 780 but I adjusted it many time and settled at 650. It WORKS now. :)

Thnx for all your help NEtech.
 
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