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- Sep 12, 2019
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We do not condone it. We cannot prevent it. We will not support those who rent when they want/need assistance without them being a licensed registered user. In the forum, they will be restricted to the new user section.
We are aware of the party who rents these VCDS systems.
Fair point but the main forum information should be restricted. It'll kill off the black market trade in illegal VCDS cables. They buy a clone and then get all the info from the forums.Surely some part needs to be accessible to non-members so that they can post a request to become members?
That wouldn't be financially feasible for Ross-Tech to do in my opinion. You are talking about throwing away $49+$350 when a genuine current generation Ross-Tech cable only costs $199 for DIYers. After you have gotten the "genuine" ~$49 rentals off the market, there will still be (possibly millions of) Chinese knock-offs now made available for rental on eBay (since you have now made it a lucrative business to intentionally forfeit the $350 security deposit).You should rent them and not give them back. They keep the deposit and then have to buy another one from you :-)
You are putting Ross-Tech in dangerous territory when a careless end-user bricks a car during a botched flashing operation such as an airbag, ECU, immobilizer or instrument cluster and the car refuses to start. Who accepts liability then?We could go further and say why doesn't VCDS do more? Why can't it flash like ODIS e or VCP?
Bruce I agree with the principles but the world has changed. VCDS is the best undoubtedly which is why you're getting unscrupulous individuals cheating the very people who have those principles.
We could go further and say why doesn't VCDS do more? Why can't it flash like ODIS e or VCP? Why can't it add parameters? Why is it restricted?
There are so many thieves making forgeries for profit, stealing money that could be reinvested in giving the cable those options to help the community. There comes a time where you have to balance that. Let's look at this another way, if VCDS goes under what is left for all VAG enthusiasts, £2000 crappy programmers or getting ripped off by VAG.
Agree -wholeheartedly!!! Why-not? Also agree about the excellence of VCDS in the diagnostic industry FOR WHAT IT DOES. But alas, when viewed from the perspective of a usable multi-function device -VCDS's podium position has to be downgraded to penultimate status (because of its EEPROM limitations).Why can't it flash like ODIS e or VCP? Why can't it add parameters?
Why is it restricted?
With respect - if this risk motivates Ross-Tech's corporate decisions to not enter the EEPROM market, then their competitors' Board (i.e for VCP, and ODIS, and (now) OBD11) are either woefully negligent to their shareholders, or they have found the secret risk mitigation solution!!!You are putting Ross-Tech in dangerous territory when a careless end-user bricks a car during a botched flashing operation such as an airbag, ECU, immobilizer or instrument cluster and the car refuses to start. Who accepts liability then?
People used to ask that about the RT Wiki too. Sure, clone users, and even users of other tools benefit from the information published there, but in the end, the see who put it out there, which acts as a form of advertising and brings us business. The same is true with the forum. Use the internet search engine of your choice and look for VAG related info and chances are good some of the top results will be in the RT Wiki, forum, or some of the static content on the main site. If we limit this stuff to registered users only, it basically kills its advertising value.Why not make the forums accesible only to members only. That should kill the black market and stop this sort of behaviour.
I'm of the opinion, you have answered the question correctly.Perhaps VCDS's absence from the EEPROM market is because RT sees its future in the "enthusiast" sales sector (not sure). And, perhaps a move into the EEPROM market is seen as possibly alienating less-sophisticated users (again, not sure).
Yeah you were pushing me tailgating illegally and it's documented on cars DVR on cloud, did you know what you did is wrong and entrapment, want to go to court civilly and litigate it?Hey do you know why I pulled you over?
Why were you speeding?
.Are you sure you really want to give ... users [of that other manufacturer] the ability to do EEPROM changes? Folks who feel the need to access EEPROM by now would have already have ODISe, VCP, AVDI / Abrites, etc.
Jack: wow - what can I say? Most definitely, you are an individual thinker (which is a good thing)!!Yeah you were pushing me tailgating illegally and it's documented on cars DVR on cloud, did you know what you did is wrong and entrapment, want to go to court civilly and litigate it?