Car wont start after changing clutch, immobilizer key lost com, any help please

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Shuhel

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helo all, my colleague changed the clutch on this vehicle, and the car starts for only about 2 seconds cuts off.
on the dash it says ''SAFE''
cleared all codes, comes back with same on immo

anyone come across this before?
any thought please, thanks again


Code:
 Saturday,18,January,2020,16:38:59:58999
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: VSSZZZ5PZ9R010587   License Plate: 
Mileage: 279310km-173555mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 5P (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: VSSZZZ5PZ9R010587   Mileage: 279310km-173555miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.clb
   Part No SW: 03G 906 021 SK    HW: 03G 906 021 AN
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG  1444  
   Revision: --H08---    Serial number: SEX7Z0H631M0EF
   Coding: 0050071
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 7AADF37370D13EA7873-802E

3 Faults Found:
005488 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer 
               P1570 - 000 -  - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11110000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 279315 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:03:05

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1071 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 12.84 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00001100
                    Bin. Bits: 11000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00100001

005659 - Glowplug for Cylinder 2 (Q11) 
               P161B - 000 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 279315 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:48

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 12.31 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00001100
                    Temperature: 20.7°C
                    Bin. Bits: 00110000

005661 - Glowplug for Cylinder 4 (Q13) 
               P161D - 000 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 279315 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:48

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 12.31 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00001100
                    Temperature: 20.7°C
                    Bin. Bits: 00110000

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels:. 1K0-907-379-MK70M.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AF    HW: 1K0 907 379 AF
   Component: MABS MK70M          0104  
   Revision: 00H32001    
   Coding: 0016641
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 76B5E74344C95AC7E3B-8022

1 Fault Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 5P0 907 044 K
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 011 0702  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3829297B0E5DECB7317-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E    HW: 3C8 937 049 E
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000005852089
   Coding: E1880F2F00041000431800000000000000007F075C400000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00137 211 56823
   VCID: 33331E57173B0FEF045-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5P0 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 160608 022  0601  
   Coding: 00056208
   Shop #: WSC 00137  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1P0 955 559   Labels: 1P0-955-559.CLB
   Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH04 0090  
   Coding: 00152622
   Shop #: WSC 00137  

2 Faults Found:
00987 - Lamp for Brake Light; Left (M9) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 98
                    Mileage: 279315 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 12.40 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00988 - Lamp for Brake Light; Right (M10) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 98
                    Mileage: 279315 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 12.40 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 1K0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 919 475 E    HW: 1K0 919 475 E
   Component: PARKHILFE     005 1406  
   Revision: 00005000    Serial number: 0 263 004 292 
   Coding: 000001
   Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
   VCID: 34311D4B1E3508D71DF-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: S9 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD248KGD  
   Coding: 0021305
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 3D27386F217FC99FE21-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME290475389

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME2B560C22C

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME174957718

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME173E33548

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BS    HW: 1K0 953 549 BS
   Component: J0527           752 0101  
   Coding: 0002042
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 04518D8B02157857EDF-8050

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           001 0010

1 Fault Found:
01426 - Controls in Steering Wheel (E221) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 5P0 920 927 B
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VO3 0450  
   Coding: 0002401
   Shop #: WSC 00011 067 57207
   VCID: 34311D4B123508D71DF-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H16 0202  
   Revision:   H16       Serial number: 2700K0860482D3
   Coding: E9A07F060002022203
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 3537204F194F11DF2A1-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 5P0 920 927 B
   Component: IMMO            VO3 0450  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 34311D4B123508D71DF-8060

1 Fault Found:
01176 - Key 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 L    HW: 1K0 959 793 P
   Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1520  
   Revision: 71009005    Serial number: 00000364288508
   Coding: 0004784
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 40D9419B568DA477897-8014

1 Fault Found:
00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100101
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 98
                    Mileage: 279315 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 C
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 77     2301  
   Revision: 00H15000    
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 2A0D0333C0F14E27B73-807E

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            000 - - - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Battery Volts: 12.4 V
                        PD
                    Temperature: 9.0°C
                    Count: 2
                    Steering Angle: 0.00°
                    Count: 0
                        SteerAng n.Init


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0204  
   Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 988000005183CC7F0006850560085F86107C80
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 03538E97071B7F6FD45-8056

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 5P0 951 171 C
   Component: Innenraumueberw.009 4865  
   Coding: 00000000
   Shop #: WSC 06402  

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Subsystem 7 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

1 Fault Found:
01135 - Interior Monitoring Sensors 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 138
                    Mileage: 279315 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 L    HW: 1K0 959 792 P
   Component: J387  TUER-SG BT    1520  
   Revision: 71009005    Serial number: 00000563688513
   Coding: 0004784
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 41DF449F5D87AD7F869-8014

2 Faults Found:
00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100101
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 98
                    Mileage: 279315 km
                    Time Indication: 0

00944 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Passenger Side (Z5) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 138
                    Mileage: 279315 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 5P2 035 186 A
   Component: Radio BVX           0007  
   Coding: 0040464
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 2F3B1227FB132B0F60D-807A

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AE    HW: 1K0 959 795 R
   Component: J388   TUER-SG HL   1401  
   Revision: 11006001    Serial number: 00000003248988
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 73B3DE5757BB4FEFC45-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AE    HW: 1K0 959 794 R
   Component: J389   TUER-SG HR   1401  
   Revision: 11006001    Serial number: 00000003305626
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
   VCID: 74B1DD4B52B548D7DDF-8020

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:30, VBatt start/end: 11.7V/11.6V. VIgn 11.7V)-----
 
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Did you check key is proper and D2 coil excites transponder to be seen in Immobilizer measured blocks in VCDS?

Fuses all good?

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 5P0 920 927 B
   Component: IMMO            VO3 0450  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 34311D4B123508D71DF-8060

1 Fault Found:
01176 - Key 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

I don't understand how a clutch job could have caused this, but I've seen stranger coincidences.

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/01176

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Now sorted
I read on a forum maybe here, hold positive and negative battery term together for 30secs and then connect battery, leave jump leads on for 5mins with ignition on if the batterys weak.
Car started, all working fine now.
I still dont get why it happened in the first place
Thanks guys
 
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I read on a forum maybe here, hold positive and negative battery term together for 30secs and then connect battery, leave jump leads on for 5mins with ignition on if the batterys weak.
Car started, all working fine now.
Nice. That's not the first time we've heard of a procedure we irreverently refer to as a "BJ" (short for "Battery Jesus") has exorcised immobilizer problems that came out of nowhere.

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Did you leave the battery connected while trying to take a trans out and removing the chassis ground or half the hots or short it on body?

Ever notice how a loud fart for odor may go unnoticed but a small one could insult yourself or even the family dog?
 
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On a VW PQ platform vehicle, removing the battery is pretty much inevitable when the trans has to come out - the battery tray is sitting on the trans side mount.
 
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