2007 passat no start no crank

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i have a 2007 VW passat wolfs-berg edition 2.0t that wont start and wont crank. When I put the key in the ignition the yellow steering wheel light comes on and the screen says move steering wheel and i can here clicking then about 10 seconds worth of clicking the screen says is steering wheel locked.the seeing wheel controls do nothing the radio does not come on.no other lights in the dash. i can see the odometer and trip time and date but nothing else checked all the fuses with multi-meter. I need help figuring it out.

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Wednesday,15,January,2020,15:56:02:34027
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
[url]www.Ross-Tech.com[/url]

VIN: WVWAK73C47P165189


Chassis Type: 3C0
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 52 53 56 62 65
          72

   Mileage: 327910km-203753miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 1010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

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Address 02: Auto Trans
Cannot be reached

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Address 03: ABS Brakes
Cannot be reached

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 GG    HW: 1K0 820 047 GG
   Component: Climatic PQ35   141 0909  
   Revision: 00141027    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6FBBD5BAEB9542CF20D-803A

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AE    HW: 3C0 937 049 AE
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H52 2002  
   Revision: 00H52000    Serial number: 00000004901723
   Coding: 15848F0340041A00470000000F00000000285D435C0001
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 6C81C2B6DA83B9D705F-FFFE

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C1 955 419 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 120407 003  0205  
   Coding: 00046997
   Shop #: WSC 00028  

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 0F: Digital Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 15: Airbags
Cannot be reached

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Address 16: Steering wheel
Cannot be reached

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 3C0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 920 971 A    HW: 3C0 920 971 A
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VD1 1614  
   Revision: V0007000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0007205
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 2313E98A77DDB6AFF45-8076

7 Faults Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 134
                    Mileage: 327919 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.09
                    Time: 20:41:18

00771 - Fuel Level Sensor (G) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 9
                    Reset counter: 134
                    Mileage: 325930 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.04.15
                    Time: 17:42:10

00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 7
                    Reset counter: 134
                    Mileage: 327919 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.10
                    Time: 03:28:48

00447 - Function Limitation due to Over-Voltage 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 10
                    Reset counter: 134
                    Mileage: 327919 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.18
                    Time: 09:44:45

01316 - ABS Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 134
                    Mileage: 327919 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.18
                    Time: 09:45:07

00473 - Control Module for Elect. Park/Hand Brake (J540) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 134
                    Mileage: 327919 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.18
                    Time: 09:45:07

00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 7
                    Reset counter: 134
                    Mileage: 327919 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.10
                    Time: 03:28:48


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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 3C0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 530 C    HW: 3C0 907 951 A
   Component: Gateway         007 0040  
   Revision: 00007000    Serial number: 0700C074210CF3
   Coding: 3FFD0E04D31002
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 211FE3826DC1A4BFE69-8074

2 Faults Found:
00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 134
                    Mileage: 327919 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.07
                    Time: 21:01:24

02638 - Enabling Steering Column Lock 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 134
                    Mileage: 327919 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.07
                    Time: 21:12:23


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Address 1C: Position Sensing
Cannot be reached

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Address 25: Immobilizer
Cannot be reached

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver
Cannot be reached

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Address 44: Steering Assist
Cannot be reached

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Address 46: Central Conv.
Cannot be reached

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.
Cannot be reached

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Address 53: Parking Brake
Cannot be reached

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left
Cannot be reached

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Address 65: Tire Pressure
Cannot be reached

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right
Cannot be reached
End----(Elapsed Time: 05:18, VBatt start/end: 13.3V/12.8V. VIgn 0.0V)------
 
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Many things are not powering up in this car. A failed steering column lock can keep things from powering up, but doesn't strike me like that; IIRC, there are explicit fault codes associated with that failure. So I'm thinking a bad relay or something like that.

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The fuse box in the engine bay, there should be a 50A fuse in position SB30 or SB49 (location depends on type of fuse box you have). Is said 50A fuse good? Remove it and look for visual hotspots on it.
 
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I will check the 50a fuse and I will get some new relays shall see if that makes any change would it be a relay in the engine bay or inside the car
 
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There is no hot spots on the two 50A fuses, and they look like they are making a good connection
 
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OK, so what I'm thinking is the J329 relay, which is the Terminal 15 relay, is where the issue is. Now be it the relay itself or the control of the relay, I don't know. The J329 is fitted directly to the J519 up under the dash.

A crappy drawing suddenly appears!


The J329 may have "460" stamped on the top of it.
 
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I pulled and checked all the relays, they all click when given power and no resistance on the pins that connect. The two#100 and one #167 relays had low resistance over the coils, but they were still functional. Both the 460 relays under the dash had perfect resistance across the coils and made good contact while powered. One thing I did notice was when the key is on no fuses get ignition power. So the only fuses with power are the ones that get constant power(battery power). I know the ignition switch is somewhat working cause it knows the key is in for the steering wheel light.
 
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Okay you got it covered and running or are you now going to load light or test for actual current, not resistance and not voltage & too simulate terminals to wake stuff up using WD or again do you have it covered?

Just because some parts of circuit works in ignition switch doesn't mean it's functional!
 
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I was just what basic knowledge I have on relays. How do I figure out what amount off current to simulate. Have not made any progress still non-responsive other than when I open the driver door I hear the fuel pump prime and when I put the fob in the dash the steering wheel message and light.
 
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Also, the fob gets locked in the ignition every time. So I have to click the shifter button to get it to release.
 
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I'm new to using the system is rgb (real time feed back ) unsure what we is
 
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I'm new to using the system is rgb (real time feed back ) unsure what we is
Hover you mouse over anything that is bold underlined green on this website, such as RTFB, and a pop-up will appear with an explanation :thumbs:
 
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If I end up needing a ignition switch can I program a new one with the vcds software. And I know I need a steering wheel lock can I program a new one
 
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If I end up needing a ignition switch can I program a new one with the vcds software. And I know I need a steering wheel lock can I program a new one

Ignition switch is ????????????........... hold on wait, what's RTFB say for work procedure, stop trying to circumvent the repair manual?
 
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In the manual it says they need coded I'm wondering if we can code them with a software
 
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Just thinking out loud here...

Brake lights, 4 way flashers and flash-to-pass high beam headlights done for 30 seconds, then try an Auto-Scan and see if more modules communicate.

What if the J329 was hotwired to force Terminal 15 to go hot? Maybe remove the relay and wrap some wire around the 30 and 87 legs of the relay and then pop it back into the J519. Or maybe remove the plastic cap and tape down the mechanical contact of the relay to make Terminal 15 go hot. At any rate, with Terminal 15 hot, try another Auto-Scan and see if you get additional information.

Jack... RTFM says for testing of the ignition switch (D9), jump into misGuided Fault Finding... :banghead: You should know better than to expect RTFM to be useful at all times... but I think we both agree there is no excuse for not having a copy of the factory repair manual for said car.
 
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