Auto-Scan Hangs at 52%

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I'm unable to get Auto-Scan to complete past 52% or address 1C on my 2009 Touareg 3.0L TDI Highline (Canadian). I've tried from different devices, though all Safari. I can enter all the other modules and view/clear faults, so I do not believe it to be a vehicle problem, but I know nothing about that.

Screenshot of the problem and the version info:



Code:
VCDS Mobile 0.4508.0.4

VIN: WVGDM67L49D036476

Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 22 36 46 47 55 56 68 69
	 6D 6E 76

VIN: WVGDM67L49D036476

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
68-Wiper Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
6E-Ctrl Head Roof -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010



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Address 01: Engine	Labels: 059-907-401-CAT1.clb
	Part No SW: 7L0 907 401 T	HW: 7L0907401K
	Component: 3.0TDI FSA  G004AG   0140
	Revision: 33H01---	Serial Number: VWX3Z0I2844357
	Coding: 0421002A590F0968
	Shop #: WSC 64005 002 1048576
	VCID: 3C3BA7F37654B637F74A0B-5184

6 Faults Found:
008871 - NOx Sensor 2 Bank 1; Heating Circuit
	P22A7 - 000 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON

008705 - NOx Sensor 1 Bank 1
	P2201 - 004 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

001025 - EGR System
	P0401 - 000 - Insufficient Flow - Intermittent

053285 - Please Check Fault Codes in Control Module for HVAC (J301)
	U1025 - 003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent

009231 - Exhaust Gas Recirculation System
	P240F - 000 - Response too Slow - Intermittent

008862 - NOx Sensor 2 Bank 1
	P229E - 001 - Electrical Malfunction - Intermittent


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Address 02: Auto Trans	Labels: 09D-927-750.lbl
	Part No SW: 09D 927 750 HN	HW: 09D927750HN
	Component: AL 750 6A            3403
	Revision: 00H75000	Serial Number:               
	Coding: 0004984
	Shop #: WSC 64005 002 1048576
	VCID: 81459607D1369BDF641C12-5160

No fault codes found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes	Labels: 7L0-907-379-MK25E1.clb
	Part No SW: 7L0 907 379 P	HW: 7L0614517C
	Component: ESP ALLRAD MK25E1    0304
	Revision: 00H53001
	Coding: 0004354
	Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
	VCID: 46CFC51B3898F9E791AE99-8013

No fault codes found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.	Labels: None
	Part No SW: 7L0 909 135 C	HW: 7L0909135C
	Component:    Kessy             6850
	Revision: 00H22072	Serial Number: VWX3Z0I2844357
	Coding: 0000232
	Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
	VCID: 312586C7A1164E5F54FC82-8064

	Subsystem 1 - 	Part No SW: XXX-XXX-XXX-XX
	Component: ELV                  XXXX

No fault codes found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC	Labels: 7L6-907-040.clb
	Part No SW: 7L6 907 040 AL	
	Component: CLIMAtronic R/L      4537
	Coding: 0003030
	Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
	VCID: 7AB761EB3CE04D07A5D6DD-802F

No fault codes found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.	Labels: 7Lx-937-049-V2.clb
	Part No SW: 7L6 937 049 AF	HW: 7L6937049AF
	Component: 2004J519                
	Serial Number: --------------
	Shop #: WSC 00000 000
	VCID: 80439303DA3C97D76B121F-80D5

No fault codes found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio	Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
	Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 M	HW: 8E0035593M
	Component: SDAR SIRIUS     H07  0150
	Revision: 00000000	Serial Number: AUZ4Z7I0515345
	Coding: 0000102
	Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
	VCID: 33298CCF5B0A784F2610A8-8066

2 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module
	014 - Defective - Intermittent

02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
	000 -  - 


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Address 15: Airbags	Labels: 7L0-959-655.lbl
	Part No SW: 7L0 959 655	HW: 7L0959655
	Component: J234__3V VW8T        0250
	Revision: 92012025	Serial Number: 0039P007688N  
	Coding: 0013142
	Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
	VCID: FAB7E1EBBCE0CD0725D65D-80AF

No fault codes found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel	Labels: 7L6-953-549.lbl
	Part No SW: 7L6 953 549 G	
	Component: J527                 3601
	Coding: 0010211
	Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
	VCID: 43C9DC0F0BAACCCFB6B078-8016

No fault codes found.

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Address 17: Instruments	Labels: 7L6-920-xxx-7L6.lbl
	Part No SW: 7L6 920 876 BX	HW: 7L6920876BX
	Component: J285 KOMBI-INST.     9833
	Revision: KHH05V46
	Coding: 0007301
	Shop #: WSC 45338 001 1048576
	VCID: 9369AC4FBB4A184FC6D0C8-80C6

1 Fault Found:
00470 - Company Comfort Databus in Single Wire
	011 - Open Circuit


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Address 19: CAN Gateway	Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
	Part No SW: 6N0 909 901	HW: 7L6920876BX
	Component: J533  GW-K-CAN TP20  9833
	Coding: 77E2EF9B63066002
	Shop #: WSC 45338 001 1048576
	VCID: F0A3C3C3EA9C83579B72CF-80A5

1 Fault Found:
00470 - Company Comfort Databus in Single Wire
	011 - Open Circuit


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Address 1C: Position Sensing	Labels: 7L6-919-879.lbl
	Part No SW: 7L6 919 879 B	HW: 7L6919879B
	Component: Kompass         001  0001
	Revision: 00001000	Serial Number: 1439802T14V502
	Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
	VCID: 46CFC51B3898FDE791AE99-8013

No fault codes found.
What can I do to further troubleshoot this?

Thank you,

A.


N.B. I do not have easy access to a Windows PC.
 
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Hi Adam,

If possible, please try using VCDS on a PC via USB -and- NET at some point. Doing so would help rule out the possibility that something vehicle side could be misbehaving.

Next, I switched your interface to the Beta channel. The next time you check for updates, VCDS-Mobile should download:

CB to update from 0.4508 to 0.4513;
DS to update from 0x55 to 0x57;

If you power the interface via USB wire it can be update it in the house (rather than under the dash at the OBD2 connector) using VCDS-Mobile.

Lastly, if the results are identical with the newest CB installed please try using AP mode. The interface wouldn't have internet access in AP mode but it isn't necessary as long as you aren't attempting to save the file to the cloud. Using AP mode would help rule out hotspot or router issues because the phone is connecting directly to your HEX-NET.
 
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Hi Adam,

If possible, please try using VCDS on a PC via USB -and- NET at some point. Doing so would help rule out the possibility that something vehicle side could be misbehaving.

Next, I switched your interface to the Beta channel. The next time you check for updates, VCDS-Mobile should download:

CB to update from 0.4508 to 0.4513;
DS to update from 0x55 to 0x57;

If you power the interface via USB wire it can be update it in the house (rather than under the dash at the OBD2 connector) using VCDS-Mobile.

Lastly, if the results are identical with the newest CB installed please try using AP mode. The interface wouldn't have internet access in AP mode but it isn't necessary as long as you aren't attempting to save the file to the cloud. Using AP mode would help rule out hotspot or router issues because the phone is connecting directly to your HEX-NET.
Hi Dana,

I updated and re-ran auto-scan in infrastructure (with Internet access) and AP mode: no difference in behaviour.

How long should I wait for it before assuming it has hung?

Here is the current info:



I noticed that the messages that appear in this location as the unit scans modules completely stop after saying, I believe, something about 22:



Not sure if that is relevant.

What's next?
 
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Looks like it's finished with 1C and hanging on 22? Do you see "Trying 22-AWD" or something close to that just before it hangs?

If it doesn't talk to a module within one minute or so, it isn't going to.

Since we no longer have a Touareg of that vintage to test on, we'll need Shaun to chime in here with instructions to generate a debug file.

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Looks like it's finished with 1C and hanging on 22? Do you see "Trying 22-AWD" or something close to that just before it hangs?

If it doesn't talk to a module within one minute or so, it isn't going to.

Since we no longer have a Touareg of that vintage to test on, we'll need Shaun to chime in here with instructions to generate a debug file.
I think that it indeed was trying 22 before hanging. I can attempt to catch it, if that will help troubleshoot, let me know.

I'll wait for Shaun's instructions.

A.
 
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So, Shaun, what are the debug instructions?
 
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What do the led's do when it starts trying 22, does it look like it resets? You can try making a debug log by entering debug level 001F on the options screen before you start the scan, but if the interface is resetting that is not going to help us here. Be sure any debug logs it makes are uploaded to the cloud, so we can see them. Feel free to post the doc id's here.
 
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What do the led's do when it starts trying 22, does it look like it resets? You can try making a debug log by entering debug level 001F on the options screen before you start the scan, but if the interface is resetting that is not going to help us here. Be sure any debug logs it makes are uploaded to the cloud, so we can see them. Feel free to post the doc id's here.
How do I know if it is resetting? What should the LEDs be doing/not doing? I don't have enough experience with this to know what is normal.

Thanks,

A.
 
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Do the two leds by the button turn off for a second?
 
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Do the two leds by the button turn off for a second?
So, the two LEDs near the button. The outer LED flashes through different colors during the scan. The inner LED seemed to be solid the entire time, except for a very brief blink, maybe. (This is in infrastructure mode.)

Note that when I first logged in today, a dataset update was available, but I was unable to download more than 6 kB of it.

I enabled debug log, and have the .edl file, but was unable to upload it in the interface. How else can I provide it to you for analysis?
 
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How can I get you the EDL file Shaun?
Shaun has the day off today, so you probably won't hear from him until Monday.

My suggestion: Bring the HEX-NET inside where you've got good WiFi, put it in Infrastructure mode so it can talk to the server, and tell it to upload it.

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My suggestion: Bring the HEX-NET inside where you've got good WiFi, put it in Infrastructure mode so it can talk to the server, and tell it to upload it.
Why didn't I think of that…

The EDL file is docid 0000-588B.

Also, I see that a dataset update is available: 60000055->60000057. Any chance that has something to do with it?

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The dataset wouldn't directly cause communication issues. Do let us know if you were unable to download that update in the house.

In the meanwhile, Shaun should be able to review your debugs on Monday so don't hesitate to bump this back up Monday evening if you don't hear back from one of us sooner.
 
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The dataset wouldn't directly cause communication issues. Do let us know if you were unable to download that update in the house.
Can't download the update at my desk, either. Sits at 1KB/0%.

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Log shows there seems to be a problem with talking to the 22 module. Can you talk to the 22 directly out of the scan? If so, can you make a debug log of that?
 
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Log shows there seems to be a problem with talking to the 22 module. Can you talk to the 22 directly out of the scan? If so, can you make a debug log of that?
Looks like I can’t talk to 22 at all. Tried and got CAN failed. Docset 0000-58A0 for the log of that.

What’s next?
 
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Do you have access to a windows laptop at all, can you borrow one from a friend? It would be good to know if this module talks with VCDS and if you can make some debug logs there.
 
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Do you have access to a windows laptop at all, can you borrow one from a friend? It would be good to know if this module talks with VCDS and if you can make some debug logs there.
I’m sure I can dig one up. But it will be this weekend. I don’t know anyone who still uses windows, other that locked-down corporate laptops, so it’s tricky. I think I have an old Lenovo in my storage locker that I can resuscitate.

Anything else I can do meanwhile? The provided debug log didn’t show anything?
 
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They confirm the module isn't responding at all, but that doesn't really tell us why. It would be good to see a log of it working, to compare. If you are able to get the module to talk with VCDS, then make debug logs with level 1024 and 1048 in VCDS.
 
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