Limp mode on transporter after engine change

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Hello from Norway , have a transporter 2012 2,0 tdi som i change engine in. The New engine are from 2014. I use the ecu to the old engine , because the ecu to the New (used engine) dont talk to the imobilizer. I have Clear all fault code witout one som not can Clear . The code is b104135 sender for oil temprature and Level . The sender in this engine have the same part number som the other sender.
when engine idling the injection quantity is -0.04 mg/stroke on 1 , -0.36 mg/stroke on 2 , -0,54 mg/stroke on 3 and 0.91 mg/stroke on 4.

Can someone help me , i have dont code the injector to the ecu.
 
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Please post an Auto-Scan for context.

-Uwe-

Code:
Wednesday,15,January,2020,10:55:50:51217
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
[url]www.Ross-Tech.com[/url]





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                Address 17: Instruments       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Control Module Part Number: 7E0 920 860 E    HW: 7E0 920 860 E
  Component and/or Version: KOMBI         H04 0305
           Software Coding: 160A00
            Work Shop Code: WSC 02736 790 50316
              ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113 (VN75)
                       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
                      VCID: AA189AD8CD37B81F59-80FE
1 Fault Found:

9453842 - Oil Level Thermal Sensor 
          B1041 35 [009] - Signal high time > maximum
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 69
                    Mileage: 101293 km
                    Date: 2088.14.18
                    Time: 16:59:19


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Address 17,7E0 920 860 E,channel IDE00492-MAS00900-ESI: Coding of Service Interval Extension (SIE)-Oil level,adapted from,Oil level evaluation ,to,no oil level evaluation ,

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Address 17: DTCs cleared
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Address 17: DTCs cleared
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Address 17: DTCs cleared
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Address 17: DTCs cleared
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Address 17: DTCs cleared
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Address 09: DTCs cleared
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Address 17: DTCs cleared
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Mode 01 - PID 01 : Readiness  --  Address 7E8

Number of DTCs stored: 0  --  MIL Status: MIL OFF
Misfire monitoring: Not installed.
Fuel System:  Passed
Comprehensive Components:  Passed
Catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
Heated catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
Evaporative system monitoring: Not installed.
Secondary air system monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
A/C system refrigerant monitoring: Not installed.
Oxygen sensor monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
Oxygen sensor heater monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
Exhaust Gas Recirculation:  Failed or Incomplete

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Mode 01 - PID 01 : Readiness  --  Address 7E8

Number of DTCs stored: 0  --  MIL Status: MIL OFF
Misfire monitoring: Not installed.
Fuel System:  Passed
Comprehensive Components:  Passed
Catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
Heated catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
Evaporative system monitoring: Not installed.
Secondary air system monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
A/C system refrigerant monitoring: Not installed.
Oxygen sensor monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
Oxygen sensor heater monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
Exhaust Gas Recirculation:  Failed or Incomplete

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Mode 01 - PID 01 : Readiness  --  Address 7E8

Number of DTCs stored: 0  --  MIL Status: MIL OFF
Misfire monitoring: Not installed.
Fuel System:  Passed
Comprehensive Components:  Passed
Catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
Heated catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
Evaporative system monitoring: Not installed.
Secondary air system monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
A/C system refrigerant monitoring: Not installed.
Oxygen sensor monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
Oxygen sensor heater monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
Exhaust Gas Recirculation:  Failed or Incomplete

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VCDS Release 19.6.2:  SRI Reset-SRI1.CLB
Control Module Part Number: 7E0 920 860 E       Labels:  .*5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Component:KOMBI         H04 0305, Coding:160A00
Operation: Please select an operation
************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
Channel                                                                                             	Description                                                 	Current val.                                                	New val.  
IDE00342-ESI: Resetting ESI                                                                         	ESI: Service Reminder Status                                	Warning active                                              	---       
IDE00510-ESI: distance driven from inspection                                                       	ESI: Distance since Inspection                              	15500 km                                                    	---       
IDE00511-ESI: time from inspection                                                                  	ESI: Time since Inspection                                  	483 d                                                       	---       
IDE00515-ESI: oil quality                                                                           	ESI: Oil Quality                                            	poor oil quality                                            	---       
IDE00517-ESI: soot entry                                                                            	ESI: Soot Quantity                                          	86800 km                                                    	---       
IDE00518-ESI: thermal load                                                                          	ESI: Thermal Load                                           	14900 km                                                    	---       
IDE01153-SIA: maximum value of distance to service                                                  	SIA: Maximum Distance to Service                            	20000 km                                                    	---       
IDE01154-SIA: maximum value of time to service                                                      	SIA: Maximum Time to Service                                	372 d                                                       	---       
                                                                                                    	FIX: Maximum Distance to Inspection                         	---                                                         	---       
                                                                                                    	FIX: Maximum Time to Inspection                             	---                                                         	---       
                                                                                                    	FIX: Distance since Inspection                              	---                                                         	---       
                                                                                                    	FIX: Time since Inspection                                  	---                                                         	---       
************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

Wednesday,15,January,2020,12:41:48:51217
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
[url]www.Ross-Tech.com[/url]





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Readiness Status: 00000000 00001110 11101000 11101000
MIL Status: MIL OFF
Comprehensive Components: Passed
Fuel System: Passed
Exhaust Gas Recirculation: Failed or Incomplete
Number of EOBD-related DTC(s): 0
 
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Why did the car go in limp mode , please help .I try to change oil Level/temp sensor , the same fault . I change the engine With a used engine. Someone som could help
 
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That's not an auto scan. See below on how to post one.
 
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VCDS
Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: Release 19.6.2(x64) Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
[url]www.Ross-Tech.com[/url]
Dealer/Shop Name:
Workshop Code: 000 00000 000000
Self-Diagnosis Log
Wednesday,15,January,2020,12:23:24:51217
VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZCH088683 License Plate:
Mileage: 101290km-62938mi Repair Order:
Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 18 19 22 25 56 69 6E 0B
VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZCH088683 Mileage: 101290km-62938miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
6E-Ctrl Head Roof -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAAC) Labels:. 03L-906-022-CAA.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 019 DK HW: 03L 907 309 K
Component: R4 2,0L EDC H43 9135
Revision: 26H43--- Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0119401A231600080000
Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906019DK 002007
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906019DK.rod
VCID: F7BE73AC4E05D5F716-80A2
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----) Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK25AXT.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 J HW: 7E0 907 379 E
Component: ESP MK25A XT H43 0109
Revision: 00H43001
Coding: 508724AD91AC0A9D24A88979696110
Shop #: WSC 02736 790 49152
VCID: B93AB5943091038720-80EC
No fault code found.
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VCDS
Self-Diagnosis Log
Wednesday,15,January,2020,12:23:24:51217
Page 2
VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZCH088683 License Plate:
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels:| 7E5-907-047.clb
Part No SW: 7E5 907 047 AS HW: 7E5 907 047 AS
Component: Climatic-T5 H19 0404
Revision: 00001009
Coding: 0000000002
ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
ROD: EV_ClimaT5Basis.rod
VCID: 804C18701BCB924F27-80D4
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 7H0 937 086 H HW: 7H0 937 086
Component: BCM T5GP M++4 H47 0254
Revision: BM047001 Serial number: 0428 003120764
Coding: A0A0303A0E212033002008102D2B8CD40010430F60060000300000000000
Shop #: WSC 02736 790 00000
VCID: B83CB0900B9B1A8FDF-80EC
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 HW: 7E0 959 801 Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 002 3311
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 HW: 7E0 959 802 Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 002 3311
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 000000
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B HW: 7E0 959 655 B
Component: VW10Airbag003 H06 0013
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003HL009PJV$
Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003033
Shop #: WSC 02734 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
VCID: B522B9A41489E7E7C4-80E0
No fault code found.
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VCDS
Self-Diagnosis Log
Wednesday,15,January,2020,12:23:24:51217
Page 3
VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZCH088683 License Plate:
Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 7E0 920 860 E HW: 7E0 920 860 E
Component: KOMBI H04 0305
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 160A00
Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
VCID: AA189AD8CD37B81F59-80FE
1 Fault Found:
9453842 - Oil Level Thermal Sensor
B1041 35 [009] - Signal high time > maximum
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 69
Mileage: 101293 km
Date: 2020.01.15
Time: 18:31:34
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Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: None
Part No: 7E0 819 008 D
Component: J737__Standheizung 0605
Revision: 00084000 Serial number: 09019169F00000
Coding: 0001322
Shop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
VCID: AA189AD80537B81F59-80FE
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 7H0 937 086
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H47 0254
Revision: BM047001
Coding: 042200
Shop #: WSC 02736 790 00000
VCID: F0AC48B0236B82CFD7-80A4
No fault code found.
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VCDS
Self-Diagnosis Log
Wednesday,15,January,2020,12:23:24:51217
Page 4
VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZCH088683 License Plate:
Address 22: AWD Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
Part No SW: 09N 907 554 B HW: 09N 907 554 B
Component: Haldex 4Motion 6008
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 02736 790 00000
VCID: B73EB3ACC68515F7D6-80E2
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H04 0305
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
VCID: EA985AD80DB7781F99-80BE
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No SW: 5M0 035 186 J HW: 5M0 035 186 J
Component: Radio RCD310 042 0082
Revision: 01000001 Serial number: VWZ1Z2L3612626
Coding: 05000200020014
Shop #: WSC 02734 790 00000
VCID: B32687BC12FDF9D7EA-80E6
1 Fault Found:
03138 - Input AUX IN
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 69
Mileage: 101293 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.06.07
Time: 18:31:46
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VCDS
Self-Diagnosis Log
Wednesday,15,January,2020,12:23:24:51217
Page 5
VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZCH088683 License Plate:
Address 69: Trailer (J345) Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F HW: 1K0 907 383 F
Component: Anhaenger H09 0100
Revision: 3A001001 Serial number: 00000164355308
Coding: 410D000100000000
Shop #: WSC 02736 790 00000
VCID: B02C88B0E3EBC2CF97-80E4
No fault code found.
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Address 6E: Ctrl Head Roof (J702) Labels:. 7E5-919-037-W2.clb
Part No SW: 7E5 919 037 G HW: 7E5 919 037 G
Component: Dachdisplay H15 0175
Revision: 10100010 Serial number: 230202
Coding: 000203
Shop #: WSC 02736 790 00000
VCID: B522B9A41C89E7E7C4-80E0
No fault code found.
End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:31, VBatt start/end: 11.6V/12.0V)-----------
 
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Her is the autoscan , i try to change the temp/oil Level sensor , but the same. Can not Clear the fault code , the fault code com back. i have only change the engine , all whas ok before.
 
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Can someone help me , i have dont code the injector to the ecu.
The ECU does have Adaptation channels ( IDE00263 - IDE00266) for Injector Correction values. Those values are printed on the injectors themselves:

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But the problem is that when you enter new values into these channels, the ECU assumes the injectors are brand-new and it loses whatever compensation factor it has (or should have) for wear on the injectors. So it may be best if you install the injectors from the old engine, which the ECU already knows, and has wear compensation values for.

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The ECU does have Adaptation channels ( IDE00263 - IDE00266) for Injector Correction values. Those values are printed on the injectors themselves:

But the problem is that when you enter new values into these channels, the ECU assumes the injectors are brand-new and it loses whatever compensation factor it has (or should have) for wear on the injectors. So it may be best if you install the injectors from the old engine, which the ECU already knows, and has wear compensation values for.

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I try to put they injector som from the old engine , buth the whas a fault With they . but i have the ecu to the New engine , only is the imobilizer.How shall i code the imobilizer to the ecu. when i put the ecu to the New engine i can not start the car , it com up in display imobilizer.I have coded all 4 injector som are on the New engine( 40000km ) to the old ecu,
 
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where did i find the pin code on the engine ecu? i want to put the ecu som are to the New engine in the car and nead to find the pin code to old and New ecu. i want to do this

Prerequisites:

The REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU is installed in the car.
Battery voltage at least 12.5 V.
All relevant coding and adaptation values have been transferred from the ORIGINAL (OLD) ECU to the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU.
Make sure to have BOTH PIN's, from the ORIGINAL (OLD) and the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU.
Make sure to have the Radio Code (for factory radios only).
Complete the following steps using one of the original vehicle keys! A new key that is not authorized/matched to the Instrument cluster can prevent successful ECU matching.


[Select]
[01 - Engine]


[Login - 11]
For the following procedure, use the PIN of the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU.

4-digit PIN The PIN needs to be entered as 5-digit number in the New Value box. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.


[Do it!]



[Adaptation - 10]
Enter 050 in "Channel Number".
[Read]
For the following procedure, use the PIN of the ORIGINAL (OLD) ECU.

4-digit PIN The PIN needs to be entered as 5-digit number. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.


[Test]

The values may change to "32000", this is normal

[Save]
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]




Switch OFF the ignition and let the car sit for ~1 minute, then switch ON the ignition again.
Verify that the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU now shows the VIN and if supported IMMO-ID of the vehicle now.
Verify that the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU has the same Coding as the original unit, or code it from scratch using the repair manual or coding chart in VCDS when applicable.
 
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You cannot do an ECU change on a vehicle this new even if you had the PIN. A PIN is simply not sufficient. A challenge/response algorithm is required; the challenge changes with every cycle of the ignition, and the algorithm to compute the response from the challenge does not exist on the dealers' own scan tools, only on VAG's corporate servers.

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You cannot do an ECU change on a vehicle this new even if you had the PIN. A PIN is simply not sufficient. A challenge/response algorithm is required; the challenge changes with every cycle of the ignition, and the algorithm to compute the response from the challenge does not exist on the dealers' own scan tools, only on VAG's corporate servers.

-Uwe-

Ok , maybe you misunderstand me , when i buy the used engine , the ecu to this engine whas With. But i could not use it because is not comunikation to the imobilizer. I think at the best is to could use it , but how to get that ecu to comunikation to imobilizer ecu? Som you se of the auto scan i have the code b104135 sender for oil temprature and Level. I can not delete this code , try to change the sender but the same fault. Could this do at the engine og in limp modus.
 
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Are the no one som have a tips or solution to me?
 
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Never mind? , what that sort of answer. I whas thinking this whas a seriouse Group. if you not can answer on that i ask , so dont answer.
 
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Never mind? , what that sort of answer. I whas thinking this whas a seriouse Group. if you not can answer on that i ask , so dont answer.

that is exactly why I edited my previous comment, I mis-read/mis-understood the question/thread, and can't provide an answer for you.
 
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