2019 NAR GTI Rabbit MIB2.5 Retrofit Completed. Have some 5F leftover errors.

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Merry Christmas everyone.

All is perfect with the MIB2.5 setup with the 8" glass screen - including CP removal. Because my MIB2.5 unit came out of a 2019 Atlas SEL R-Line it still has some leftover programming I can't seem to un-code. See some VCDS errors below and someone let me know where/what to poke around under to get this all error-free. I realize the Sat radio error is due to not being activated. Oh, and I didn't install a GPS antenna as I only have the MIB2.5 with App-Connect. Should I purchase a GPS antenna? Would that enable the compass in the instrument cluster?

Code:
Thursday,19,December,2019,18:54:25:61205
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
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Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (3Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 13 15 17 19 29 2B 32 39 3C 42 44 4B 52 5F
          A9 D6 D7

VIN: 3VW6T7AU6KM006717   Mileage: 7194km-4470miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
29-Left Light -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
32-Differential Locks -- Status: OK 0000
39-Right Light -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
4B-Multifunc. Module -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
D6-Light Ctrl Left 2 -- Status: OK 0000
D7-Light Ctrl Right 2 -- Status: OK 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 035 844 B    HW: 3Q0 035 844 B
   Component: MU-S-S-US     722 0867 
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 02731000FF00000051221001001828001F0503D401200501C2
   Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CDELP 001001
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CDELP_VW37.rod
   VCID: 2E050E489099B4276BB-807A

   Operating And Display Unit 1:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G6 919 605 C    HW: 5G6 919 605 C
   Component: ABT_Std-2  H50 8130
   Serial number: VWZ6ZJT2946449     

4 Faults Found:
1543 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
          U1014 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 34
                    Mileage: 7194 km
                    Date: 2019.12.19
                    Time: 04:11:11

                    Voltage terminal 30: 11.7 V
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_0_condition: OK
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_1_condition: OK
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_10_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_11_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_12_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_13_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_14_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_15_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_16_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_17_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_18_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_19_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_2_condition: OK
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_20_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_21_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_22_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_23_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_24_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_25_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_26_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_27_condition: ERROR
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_3_condition: OK
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_4_condition: OK
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_5_condition: OK
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_6_condition: OK
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_7_condition: OK
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_8_condition: OK
                    Byte_Coding_Condition-byte_9_condition: OK

0020 - Tuner for Satellite Radio
          B11CF 53 [009] - Deactivated
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 34
                    Mileage: 7194 km
                    Date: 2019.12.19
                    Time: 04:11:32

                    Voltage terminal 30: 11.8 V
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Satellite radio antenna status: Electrical OK
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Channel selection for satellite radio: 0
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Audio Signal: Not available
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Antenna current: 47 mA
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Reception quality: No_signal
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Satellite radio tuner: pre-activation status: 05
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Satellite radio tuner: pre-activation value: 05

2565 - GPS Antenna
          B1054 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          [GPS aerial - open circuit]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 34
                    Mileage: 7194 km
                    Date: 2019.12.19
                    Time: 04:11:12

                    Voltage terminal 30: 11.7 V

7170 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [A/C system (0x02) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 34
                    Mileage: 7194 km
                    Date: 2019.12.19
                    Time: 04:11:14

                    Voltage terminal 30: 11.8 V
                    BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02


End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:34, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.1V)-----------
 
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^^^ here's a comparison between the code-strings on your original (from here) and the new MIB.

Code:
Name	2017 NAR Golf mk 7	2019 NAR GTI Rabbit 	
Byte	Hex	Binary	        Hex	Binary
0	02	00000010	02	00000010
1	73	01110011	73	01110011
2	12	00010010	10	00010000
3	00	00000000	00	00000000
4	FF	11111111	FF	11111111
5	00	00000000	00	00000000
6	00	00000000	00	00000000
7	00	00000000	00	00000000
8	51	01010001	51	01010001
9	22	00100010	22	00100010
10	00	00000000	10	00010000
11	00	00000000	01	00000001
12	00	00000000	00	00000000
13	18	00011000	18	00011000
14	08	00001000	28	00101000
15	00	00000000	00	00000000
16	1F	00011111	1F	00011111
17	01	00000001	05	00000101
18	06	00000110	03	00000011
19	F4	11110100	D4	11010100
20	01	00000001	01	00000001
21	20	00100000	20	00100000
22	01	00000001	05	00000101
23	01	00000001	01	00000001
24	03	00000011	C2	11000010
Suggestion: restore old values -except for:
  • Byte 11 - which should be set to 8RU Sound system - see here
  • Byte 10 - what DAB aerial facilities does the car have? Does USA even have DAB?

If you post-up admaps for the before/after MIBs -I can compare channel settings
Don
 
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^^^ here's a comparison between the code-strings on your original (from here) and the new MIB.

Code:
Name	2017 NAR Golf mk 7	2019 NAR GTI Rabbit 	
Byte	Hex	Binary	        Hex	Binary
0	02	00000010	02	00000010
1	73	01110011	73	01110011
2	12	00010010	10	00010000
3	00	00000000	00	00000000
4	FF	11111111	FF	11111111
5	00	00000000	00	00000000
6	00	00000000	00	00000000
7	00	00000000	00	00000000
8	51	01010001	51	01010001
9	22	00100010	22	00100010
10	00	00000000	10	00010000
11	00	00000000	01	00000001
12	00	00000000	00	00000000
13	18	00011000	18	00011000
14	08	00001000	28	00101000
15	00	00000000	00	00000000
16	1F	00011111	1F	00011111
17	01	00000001	05	00000101
18	06	00000110	03	00000011
19	F4	11110100	D4	11010100
20	01	00000001	01	00000001
21	20	00100000	20	00100000
22	01	00000001	05	00000101
23	01	00000001	01	00000001
24	03	00000011	C2	11000010
Suggestion: restore old values -except for:
  • Byte 11 - which should be set to 8RU Sound system - see here
  • Byte 10 - what DAB aerial facilities does the car have? Does USA even have DAB?

If you post-up admaps for the before/after MIBs -I can compare channel settings
Don
Hey Don!

That older post you linked from 2017 is a scan of my 2016 Golf Sportwagen. The 2019 GTI is the vehicle I retrofitted the MIB2.5 into. The GTI does not have a sound system amp and only has 6 speakers from the factory which is, unfortunately, missing rear door tweeters. The original radio is a 6.5" unit called Display.

Along with the MIB2.5 upgrade, I also installed the OEM VW HELIX Digital Sound Processor with the rear spare tire subwoofer unit (100% plug-n-play). Per VW there is no programming that needs to be done with ODIS for this DSP upgrade.

And about the DAB... We do have Digital Radio "HD" radio. Would that be the North American equivalent of DAB?

Here is the admap of the original MIB. I'll create a fresh admap of the new MIB for you tonight when I return home.

Code:
;SW:5G6-035-868   HW:5G6-035-868 ---  Information Electr.			
;Component:MU-E--ER      695 8742	 Coding:02730000BE00000041220001001000009F0003D40000010000		
;EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE	1041	EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW37.rod	
;Wednesday	9	October	2019
;VCDS Version: Release 19.6.2 (x64)  Data version: 20190930 DS308.0			
;VCID: 70B9D0304A2DE2D7397-8024			
			
Production mode	04FE	3	00 00 00 
Summertime-automatic	0B12	1	1
Base volume of telephone	241C	1	32
Microphone sensitivity	241E	1	0A 
Number 1 for Info call	090B	23	FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 
Number 1 for roadside assistance	090C	23	FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 
Activating and deactivating all development messages	902	1	0
Time display for start screen	0B2D	1	6
Developer mode	243F	1	0
Number 2 for Info call	909	23	FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 
Number 2 for roadside assistance	090A	23	FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 
Deactivate production mode	04FC	3	00 00 00 
Electrical test of loudspeakers	0B20	49	01 4A 38 1B 4A 38 1B 4A 38 1B 4A 38 1B 4A 38 1B 4A 38 1B 4A 38 1B 4A 38 1B 4A 38 1B 4A 38 1B 4A 38 1B 4A 38 1B 4A 38 1B 4A 38 1B 4A 38 1B 4A 38 1B 
Confirmation of installation change	0B2E	2	52 C5 
Number 1 for roadside assistance	0B02	23	FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 
Number 1 (roaming) for roadside assistance	0B03	23	FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 
Vehicle configuration	22AD	30	00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 21 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
Bluetooth: Preferred connection profile for phone book data	929	1	0
Selection of release codes for a SWaP function	3C02	4	FF FF FF FF 
Bluetooth: Sniff mode	0B37	1	0
Audio Management Input Gain Generation 2	1872	40	80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 80 
Interface for external media: activation	981	4	01 00 00 00 
Country identification: country of sale HMI	09CB	2	55 53 
Locked menu contents	09EB	21	00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
Deactivation/activation of the pop-up for active tracking services	EF98	4	00 00 00 00 
Bluetooth	0B33	1	1
Check tone frequency	0B2C	6	0F A0 03 E8 00 64 
BAP_Debug_Mode_Release	1021	1	0
Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2	0B3C	60	00 05 00 05 00 05 05 05 05 00 05 05 05 05 00 05 05 05 00 05 05 00 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 05 00 05 05 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 00 00 00 00 
Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2	0B3D	64	00 01 00 00 00 0C 10 11 01 01 18 08 01 01 01 01 00 01 01 01 18 FD 00 09 FC 0C 0D 19 00 04 FC 04 00 0C 08 09 FC 04 11 08 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 00 08 0C 00 FC 00 00 00 
Car_Function_List_CAN_Gen2	0B5B	8	21 00 10 40 01 20 00 00 
Dimming_Ambient_Illumination_Information_Control_Unit	0B44	6	00 00 32 32 64 64 
Dimming_Illumination_for_Display_Unit	0B47	12	00 01 0A 01 32 03 64 06 96 2C FD 64 
nhtsa_properties	052A	5	75 00 00 00 00 
p_damping_Display	050C	1	5
p_HMI_Display	050B	1	0D 
Radio_Level_Quality_Offsets	050E	2	00 00
 
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for a U.S. based MIB2 unit you would want the bytes related to DAB turned off, as we use SDARS (SiriusXM) which is controlled differently in the MIB system
 
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Take 2 - this time using the data from your 2019 GTI

Code:
Name	2019 GTI		2019 NAR GTI Rabbit	
Byte	Hex	Binary	        Hex	Binary
0	02	00000010	02	00000010
1	73	01110011	73	01110011
2	00	00000000	10	00010000
3	00	00000000	00	00000000
4	BE	10111110	FF	11111111
5	00	00000000	00	00000000
6	00	00000000	00	00000000
7	00	00000000	00	00000000
8	41	01000001	51	01010001
9	22	00100010	22	00100010
10	00	00000000	10	00010000
11	01	00000001	01	00000001
12	00	00000000	00	00000000
13	10	00010000	18	00011000
14	00	00000000	28	00101000
15	00	00000000	00	00000000
16	9F	10011111	1F	00011111
17	00	00000000	05	00000101
18	03	00000011	03	00000011
19	D4	11010100	D4	11010100
20	00	00000000	01	00000001
21	00	00000000	20	00100000
22	01	00000001	05	00000101
23	00	00000000	01	00000001
24	00	00000000	C2	11000010
Don

PS: the data that you pasted in the code tags is NOT an admap!!! Set up the radio buttons on the channel map dialogue window as below (use "5F" instead of "09")"

 
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Take 2 - this time using the data from your 2019 GTI

Code:
Name	2019 GTI		2019 NAR GTI Rabbit	
Byte	Hex	Binary	        Hex	Binary
0	02	00000010	02	00000010
1	73	01110011	73	01110011
2	00	00000000	10	00010000
3	00	00000000	00	00000000
4	BE	10111110	FF	11111111
5	00	00000000	00	00000000
6	00	00000000	00	00000000
7	00	00000000	00	00000000
8	41	01000001	51	01010001
9	22	00100010	22	00100010
10	00	00000000	10	00010000
11	01	00000001	01	00000001
12	00	00000000	00	00000000
13	10	00010000	18	00011000
14	00	00000000	28	00101000
15	00	00000000	00	00000000
16	9F	10011111	1F	00011111
17	00	00000000	05	00000101
18	03	00000011	03	00000011
19	D4	11010100	D4	11010100
20	00	00000000	01	00000001
21	00	00000000	20	00100000
22	01	00000001	05	00000101
23	00	00000000	01	00000001
24	00	00000000	C2	11000010
Don

PS: the data that you pasted in the code tags is NOT an admap!!! Set up the radio buttons on the channel map dialogue window as below (use "5F" instead of "09")"

oops! I thought I had pulled the Admap but guess I never did. Will do that and post results.

Thanks!
Michael
 
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^^ Michael: Correct admap format for the current hex 5F module - but it's going to be a tad difficult to compare the settings with your old hex 5F module if you don't also send me the admap for the old module!!

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^^ Michael: Correct admap format for the current hex 5F module - but it's going to be a tad difficult to compare the settings with your old hex 5F module if you don't also send me the admap for the old module!!

Don
Unfortunately, I don't have an admap format of the old 5F module. The closest thing I have is this adphex file of the old 5F radio scan from October here. :confused:
 
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^^^Michael: Bummer!!!

Moral of the story: always, every time, on every occasion, without fail - make a FULL admap of the old module when replacing modules!!:facepalm:

Don
 
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^^^Michael: Bummer!!!

Moral of the story: always, every time, on every occasion, without fail - make a FULL admap of the old module when replacing modules!!:facepalm:

Don
I know! :( Lesson learned.

Let me see if I can find someone who can make me a stock 2019 GTI Rabbit 5F admap.
 
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I believe search results for EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE are going to help. I know you'd prefer to work with non-wagon data but I have that (terrible) factory head unit:

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...nd-1-8T-(CXBB)&p=139047&viewfull=1#post139047

There's a google folder linked in post #1 and I can run new ones with a current version (but I have tweaked a few things menu wise after that baseline was captured).

Edit, I bumped this up with a request: https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...-settings-inop&p=188186&viewfull=1#post188186
 
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^^^^ Dana: With the greatest of respect and with absolutely no ill intention - I suspect that you may be telling a small porkie in your post by claiming that what's in the code-tags is .CSV information:facepalm:



difficult to import into MS Access using my admap compare macros if data not actual .CSV format. Do you have a real .CSV file?

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Hi Don,

Those are the native file names (copied from the properties of each file and pasted above each post) but they were pasted in plain text to the thread. The originals live in the Google Drive link of post #1 (and I should have them backed up via e-mail if it won't download for you).
 
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^^^^ Dana: thanks - I'm reminded of my art teacher's constant harangue, now so many years ago: "Don - you look, but you don't see"!! It was the memory of those sage words (and a palpable lack of artistic talent) that resulted in my ritual burning of my art equipment!! I hope that the same never happens to my trusted VCDS dongle:facepalm:

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Michael:

You can download my hex 5F compare spreadsheet HERE - I suggest that you not view it on dropbox because of formatting problems.

To explain the spreadsheet:
  • I've compared the hex5F settings for your new hex5F unit and the unit in Dana's Alltrack S
  • There are no adaptation channels in Dana's unit that don't also appear in your hex5F module ( a very good thing!)
  • The column headings are self explanatory - I hope, but I suggest that you concentrate on the fourth column (titled "same?") in the first instance
  • I've sorted the data by this fourth column - the channels that have the value "No" are those channels whose settings differ between the 2 x modules
  • As you can see, there are 188 x channels that have a "No" entry. These are of 2 x types: those channels that appear in both modules (and the settings differ) and those channels that only appear in your new module

Don
 
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Here's a CSV admap, in raw CSV form, for a stock, 2019, manual transmission, US model Rabbit Edition, before I made any coding or adaptation changes:

https://gist.github.com/kshultzCB/de31723f783237ef643d03332e7cbfdb

If you've never used GitHub gists before, and have trouble copy/pasting this, just click on the "Raw" button up near the top right corner of the file, and you'll get a version without any UI elements.
 
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^^^^Karl: well done and thanks!!

Michael: Updated compare spreadsheet containing both Dana & Karl's admap data HERE (same link as in my previous post)

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Michael:

You can download my hex 5F compare spreadsheet HERE - I suggest that you not view it on dropbox because of formatting problems.

To explain the spreadsheet:
  • I've compared the hex5F settings for your new hex5F unit and the unit in Dana's Alltrack S
  • There are no adaptation channels in Dana's unit that don't also appear in your hex5F module ( a very good thing!)
  • The column headings are self explanatory - I hope, but I suggest that you concentrate on the fourth column (titled "same?") in the first instance
  • I've sorted the data by this fourth column - the channels that have the value "No" are those channels whose settings differ between the 2 x modules
  • As you can see, there are 188 x channels that have a "No" entry. These are of 2 x types: those channels that appear in both modules (and the settings differ) and those channels that only appear in your new module

Don
Here's a CSV admap, in raw CSV form, for a stock, 2019, manual transmission, US model Rabbit Edition, before I made any coding or adaptation changes:

https://gist.github.com/kshultzCB/de31723f783237ef643d03332e7cbfdb

If you've never used GitHub gists before, and have trouble copy/pasting this, just click on the "Raw" button up near the top right corner of the file, and you'll get a version without any UI elements.
^^^^Karl: well done and thanks!!

Michael: Updated compare spreadsheet containing both Dana & Karl's admap data HERE (same link as in my previous post)

Don
Thank you, everyone! I am just seeing this now. Not sure why I never received an e-mail notification for post responses. Going to have a look at all this and report my findings.
 
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