ABS - No Connection issue 04 allroad Bosch 5.0

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Short version 04 allroad 4.2 doing a manual swap: Car has never communicated with ABS since I owned it. No ABS lights, or issues on the cluster. Pulled engine, did timing chain package, reinstalled the engine, still no issues, lights or beeps. Went to scan before pulling engine to look into coding changes for 6 speed swap. Cannot connect to ABS. Look through all previous scans none of them connected to ABS. I swap the module with a known good one (parts car) No connection and now LIGHTS and the three beeps.

I read about the radio possibly being an issue. I remove radio still cannot connect, still 3 beeps. Previous owner modified the factory radio for aux in through CD Changer inputs.

I check the voltage at the ODB2 K line (4 and 7) 10.31 V same at the ABS harness pin 28 Ground and 46 K line

I am also seeing a sporadic connection issue to radio now.

I'd really like to figure this out before I finish the assembly of the swap package and have the same issue but a car ready to drive and program.

Thanks for any thoughts!

Auto scan from Purchase
Code:
Saturday,13,April,2019,12:20:08:16173
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WA1YL64B34N032078   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 4B (4B - Audi A6/S6/RS6/allroad C5 (1998 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 06 08 15 16 17 18 22 34 35 36 37 45 55 56 57 65 67
          75 76 77
 
VIN: WA1YL64B34N032078   
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4D0 907 560 BE    HW: 8E0 907 560 
   Component: 4.2L V8/5V      G   0020  
   Coding: 0007755
   Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
   VCID: 6AD07B5E4640C41A63-5120

5 Faults Found:
17985 - Right Engine Mount Solenoid Valve (N145) 
            P1577 - 004 - Open Circuit
16815 - Warm Up Catalyst; Bank 2 
            P0431 - 001 - Efficiency Below Threshold
17738 - Knock-Control: Cylinder 6 
            P1330 - 001 - Regulation Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
17739 - Knock-Control: Cylinder 7 
            P1331 - 001 - Regulation Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
16395 - Bank 1: Camshaft A (Intake) 
            P0011 - 008 - Retard Setpoint not Reached (Over-Advanced)
Readiness: 0000 0001

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 927 156 S
   Component: AG5 01V 4.2l5V  USA 1215  
   Coding: 0001002
   Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
   VCID: 56A83FAEE23870FAD7-5120

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4B0-820-043-MY2.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 820 043 AR
   Component: A6-Klimavollautomat 0208  
   Coding: 00110
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 6AD07B5E1640C41A63-2572

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4B0-959-655-AI84.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 959 655 J
   Component: Airbag 8.4EP        3000  
   Coding: 0000607
   Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
   VCID: 56A83FAEE23870FAD7-5120

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4B0-907-487.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 907 487 F
   Component: Lenkradelektronik   D01   
   Coding: 01005
   Shop #: WSC 02334  
   VCID: 2F66AA4AED22613274-5102

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4B0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 920 981 P
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D14  
   Coding: 06283
   Shop #: WSC 00222  
   VCID: 336EA63A010A45D210-5120
   WA1YL64B34N032078     AUZ7Z0C2459363

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 4Z7-907-553.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 553 F
   Component:  - 2C1A1          D060    
   Coding: 25500
   Shop #: WSC 02334  
   VCID: 4894E1D6688CD60A55-5120

1 Fault Found:
01575 - Control Switched Off 
            35-00 -  - 

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Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels:. 4B0-962-258.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 962 258 M
   Component: Central Lock/Alarm  D38  
   Coding: 15885
   Shop #: WSC 22122  
   VCID: 336EA63A010A45D210-4ECA

3 Faults Found:
01572 - Alarm triggered by Door Contact Switch; Passenger Side 
            35-00 -  - 
01374 - Alarm triggered by Terminal 15 
            35-00 -  - 
01559 - Drivers Door 
            58-10 - Can't Lock - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
   Part No: 4B0 959 760 B
   Component: Sitzmemory R1 F     0101  
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 2C5CBD46DC341A2A51-4B00

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 4B0-919-887-BNS4.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 919 887 E
   Component: BNS 4.2 H05    BNO 0050  
   VCID: 356A98220F7E5BE23E-4ACE

1 Fault Found:
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error 
            00-00 -  - 

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 357 
   Component: dynamische LWR       D09  
   Coding: 00030
   Shop #: WSC 02334  
   VCID: 040C35E61424326AF9-4B18

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 035 195 N
   Component: symphony II NP2    0400   
   Coding: 02017
   Shop #: WSC 22016  
   VCID: 2B5EBE5AD93A1D1258-5072

1 Fault Found:
00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41) 
            49-00 - No Communications

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 75: Telematics        Labels: 8E0-035-616.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 616 B    HW: 8E0 035 616 B
   Component: Telematik USA1      1616  
   Coding: 0002333
   Shop #: WSC 22122 444 01310
   VCID: 244C5566E4E4D26A99-5120

1 Fault Found:
01528 - Auxiliary Antenna for Telematic (R90) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 8Z0-919-283.lbl
   Part No: 8Z0 919 283 
   Component: Parkingsyst. A6 RDW D08  
   Coding: 01186
   Shop #: WSC 02334  
   VCID: 020033FE0E303C5ACB-5120

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:59)--------------------------

Auto scan today (Ignore the faults engine / trans are out.

Code:
Tuesday,10,December,2019,14:45:46:16173
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WA1YL64B34N032078   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 4B (4B - Audi A6/S6/RS6/allroad C5 (1998 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 06 08 15 16 17 18 22 34 35 36 37 45 55 56 57 65 67
          75 76 77
 
VIN: WA1YL64B34N032078   
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4D0 907 560 BE    HW: 8E0 907 560 
   Component: 4.2L V8/5V      G   0020  
   Coding: 0007755
   Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
   VCID: 6AD07B5E4640C41F19-5120

8 Faults Found:
17951 - Angle Sensor 1 for Throttle Actuator (G187) 
            P1543 - 002 - Signal too Small
17580 - Angle Sensor 2 for Throttle Actuator (G188) Signal too Low 
            P1172 - 002 - 
17987 - Throttle Actuator (J338) 
            P1579 - 001 - Adaptation Not Started
18320 - Pressure Sensor for Brake Boost (G294) 
            P1912 - 001 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
16497 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42) 
            P0113 - 002 - Signal too High
18080 - Coolant Fan Control 1 
            P1672 - 004 - Open or Short to Ground
18308 - Coolant Fan Control 2 
            P1900 - 004 - Open or Short to Ground
18010 - Power Supply Terminal 30 
            P1602 - 002 - Voltage too Low - Intermittent
Readiness: 0110 1101

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 927 156 S
   Component: AG5 01V 4.2l5V  USA 1215  
   Coding: 0001002
   Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
   VCID: 56A83FAEE23870FFAD-5120

5 Faults Found:
17090 - Transmission Range Sensor (F125) 
            P0706 - 003 - Implausible Signal
17094 - Transmission Fluid Temp Sensor (G93) 
            P0710 - 003 - Malfunction
18265 - Load Signal 
            P1857 - 003 - Error Message from ECU
18155 - Transmission Solenoid Power Relay 
            P1747 - 003 - Open or Short to Ground
18158 - Supply Voltage 
            P1750 - 003 - too Low - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4B0-820-043-MY2.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 820 043 AR
   Component: A6-Klimavollautomat 0208  
   Coding: 00110
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 6AD07B5E1640C41F19-256C

5 Faults Found:
00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17) 
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65) 
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time 
            27-00 - Implausible Signal

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4B0-959-655-AI84.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 959 655 J
   Component: Airbag 8.4EP        3000  
   Coding: 0000607
   Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
   VCID: 56A83FAEE23870FFAD-5120

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4B0-907-487.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 907 487 F
   Component: Lenkradelektronik   D01   
   Coding: 01005
   Shop #: WSC 02334  
   VCID: 2F66AA4AED2261370E-5120

1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4B0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 920 981 P
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D14  
   Coding: 06283
   Shop #: WSC 00222  
   VCID: 336EA63A010A45D76A-5120
   WA1YL64B34N032078     AUZ7Z0C2459363

4 Faults Found:
01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01304 - Radio 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
00562 - Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266) 
            30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 4Z7-907-553.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 553 F
   Component:  - 2C1A1          D060    
   Coding: 25500
   Shop #: WSC 02334  
   VCID: 4894E1D6688CD60F2F-5120

3 Faults Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            79-00 - Please Check Fault Codes
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            79-00 - Please Check Fault Codes
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels:. 4B0-962-258.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 962 258 M
   Component: Central Lock/Alarm  D38  
   Coding: 15885
   Shop #: WSC 22122  
   VCID: 336EA63A010A45D76A-4ECA

1 Fault Found:
01559 - Drivers Door 
            58-00 - Can't Lock

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
   Part No: 4B0 959 760 B
   Component: Sitzmemory R1 F     0101  
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 2C5CBD46DC341A2F2B-4AE6

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 
   VCID: 55AA38A2AC3E7BE7A4-4AB4
   Note: Excessive Comm Errors


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 357 
   Component: dynamische LWR       D09  
   Coding: 00030
   Shop #: WSC 02334  
   VCID: 040C35E61424326F83-4B18

3 Faults Found:
01535 - Control Circuit for Right Headlight Range Adjusting Motor (V49) 
            30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
01534 - Control Circuit for Left Headlight Range Adjusting Motor (V48) 
            30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 035 195 N
   Component: symphony II NP2    0400   
   Coding: 02017
   Shop #: WSC 22016  
   VCID: 2B5EBE5AD93A1D1722-5072

5 Faults Found:
01300 - Control Module for Navigation with CD-Rom (J401) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41) 
            49-00 - No Communications
00856 - Radio Antenna 
            36-00 - Open Circuit
00858 - Connection; Radio Intermediate Frequency (IF) Output to Antenna Amplifier 
            36-00 - Open Circuit
01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
            37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 75: Telematics        Labels: 8E0-035-616.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 616 B    HW: 8E0 035 616 B
   Component: Telematik USA1      1616  
   Coding: 0002333
   Shop #: WSC 22122 444 01310
   VCID: 244C5566E4E4D26FE3-5120

1 Fault Found:
01528 - Auxiliary Antenna for Telematic (R90) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 8Z0-919-283.lbl
   Part No: 8Z0 919 283 
   Component: Parkingsyst. A6 RDW D08  
   Coding: 01186
   Shop #: WSC 02334  
   VCID: 020033FE0E303C5FB1-5102

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 05:34)--------------------------
 
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Have you checked continuity of K-line to the connector at the ABS module?

Have you checked power at relevant pins of ABS module?

Have you tried installing a known good ABS module, one that communicates in a different car?

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Have you checked continuity of K-line to the connector at the ABS module?

Have you checked power at relevant pins of ABS module?

Have you tried installing a known good ABS module, one that communicates in a different car?

-Uwe-

Continuity from ODB2 pin 7 and 46 of ABS Yes

I Have power at pin 1 for ABS.

Just found I might need power at pin 50, which does not. both fuses that serve that appear to be good. Trying to find a better wiring diagram for the Bosch ABS 5.0

I have swapped another module from my parts car. Still no connection.
 
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I have swapped another module from my parts car. Still no connection.
Does either of the ABS modules communicate when installed in the other (parts) car?

Is the voltage too high on the K line?
When inactive, the K-line is floating, and the voltage is determined by leakage current from various modules. Since you can talk to other modules just fine, I think we can safely assume that the K-line is not stuck.

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Does either of the ABS modules communicate when installed in the other (parts) car?


When inactive, the K-line is floating, and the voltage is determined by leakage current from various modules. Since you can talk to other modules just fine, I think we can safely assume that the K-line is not stuck.

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The other ABS module did connect in the parts car. I currently cannot test it there again. I grabbed another module today (condition unknown) to test.

Should I be seeing CAN voltage to the ABS module when not connected? I tried to get CAN voltage and I could not get any. The Radio had CAN H voltage but was higher and CAN L was lower than research told me it should be. I know nothing about CAN!
 
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Still have no connection to ABS. Tried 3 different modules. Not sure what I need to do now or what other troubleshooting I can do. CEL shows no connection to Stering angle sensor or ABS module.
 
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Can you connect to the engine and trans - or are they still out?

Maybe the K-line to the ABS is broken somewhere in the loom - have you checked it out with a DVOM?
 
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Can you connect to the engine and trans - or are they still out?

Maybe the K-line to the ABS is broken somewhere in the loom - have you checked it out with a DVOM?

Engine and trans back in. I can connect to both with no issue, but have removed TCU (6 MT swap). I have K line voltage at the ABS module. last scan attached (TCU unplugged and front clip not attached, headlights, fans etc)

Code:
Monday,30,December,2019,22:24:11:16173
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WA1YL64B34N032078   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 4B (4B - Audi A6/S6/RS6/allroad C5 (1998 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 06 08 15 16 17 18 22 34 35 36 37 45 55 56 57 65 67
          75 76 77
 
VIN: WA1YL64B34N032078   
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4D0 907 560 BE    HW: 8E0 907 560 
   Component: 4.2L V8/5V      G   0020  
   Coding: 0007755
   Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
   VCID: 6AD07B5E4640C41F19-5120

1 Fault Found:
18034 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1626 - 008 - Missing Message from TCU
Readiness: 0110 1101

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4B0-820-043-MY2.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 820 043 AR
   Component: A6-Klimavollautomat 0208  
   Coding: 00110
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 6AD07B5E1640C41F19-2572

3 Faults Found:
00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17) 
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65) 
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time 
            27-00 - Implausible Signal

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4B0-959-655-AI84.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 959 655 J
   Component: Airbag 8.4EP        3000  
   Coding: 0000607
   Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
   VCID: 56A83FAEE23870FFAD-5120

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4B0-907-487.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 907 487 F
   Component: Lenkradelektronik   D01   
   Coding: 01005
   Shop #: WSC 02334  
   VCID: 2F66AA4AED2261370E-5120

1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio 
            49-00 - No Communications

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4B0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 920 981 P
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D14  
   Coding: 06283
   Shop #: WSC 00222  
   VCID: 336EA63A010A45D76A-5120
   WA1YL64B34N032078     AUZ7Z0C2459363

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 4Z7-907-553.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 553 F
   Component:  - 2C1A1          D060    
   Coding: 25500
   Shop #: WSC 02334  
   VCID: 4894E1D6688CD60F2F-5120

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            79-00 - Please Check Fault Codes

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels:. 4B0-962-258.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 962 258 M
   Component: Central Lock/Alarm  D38  
   Coding: 15885
   Shop #: WSC 22122  
   VCID: 336EA63A010A45D76A-4ECA

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
   Part No: 4B0 959 760 B
   Component: Sitzmemory R1 F     0101  
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 2C5CBD46DC341A2F2B-4AE6

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 
   VCID: 55AA38A2AC3E7BE7A4-4ACE
   Note: Excessive Comm Errors


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 357 
   Component: dynamische LWR       D09  
   Coding: 00030
   Shop #: WSC 02334  
   VCID: 040C35E61424326F83-4B18

2 Faults Found:
01535 - Control Circuit for Right Headlight Range Adjusting Motor (V49) 
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
01534 - Control Circuit for Left Headlight Range Adjusting Motor (V48) 
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 75: Telematics        Labels: 8E0-035-616.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 616 B    HW: 8E0 035 616 B
   Component: Telematik USA1      1616  
   Coding: 0002333
   Shop #: WSC 22122 444 01310
   VCID: 244C5566E4E4D26FE3-5120

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 8Z0-919-283.lbl
   Part No: 8Z0 919 283 
   Component: Parkingsyst. A6 RDW D08  
   Coding: 01186
   Shop #: WSC 02334  
   VCID: 020033FE0E303C5FB1-5102

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 05:58)--------------------------
 
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Have you checked continuity using the DVOM in Ohms mode?

I do have contiunuity via Audio, cannot find my better multimeter, but this one showed 1 ohm in the continuity test. That is from the ODB 2 reader to Pin #46 of ABS module.
 
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Update!

I can see the module using another tool VWtool. I still cannot see the module in VCDS.

Errors are:
1324- ----------Unknown Trouble Code -
1044- ------- Control Module Incorrectly Coded
_
18034 ----------Unknown Trouble Code


These appear to be:

01324 - Control Module for All Wheel Drive (J492): No Communications - No low range communication or ABS Coded in correctly.
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded (needs to be coded as a manual trans.
18034 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1626 - 35-00 - Missing Message from TCU

Coding is where it gets complicated as part of a 6 speed swap (cannot just code the engine, need a alternate tune). I cannot get the coding to "save" using VWtool winXP machine. Appears I have the right login as I can go a few more steps and then it shows the code in the box (image below does not). I also cannot get into basic settings with this program.....So how can I get this to show up with VCDS? Could it be a Hex+CAN device issue?

83745522_190070712195846_2979053277158572032_n.jpg
 
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Update!

I can see the module using another tool VWtool. I still cannot see the module in VCDS.
Scratching head. What cable are you using for VWtool?

I would not try to do much with VWtool on a 2004 car. The last update for it was in 1999, and there are things that it just doesn't do right on newer cars.

Just for laughs, try VCDS-Lite with the same cable that you're using for VWtool.
https://www.ross-tech.com/vcds-lite/download/index.php

Could it be a Hex+CAN device issue?
Considering it talks to most everything else in your car, I'm somewhat confused how it could be.

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Scratching head. What cable are you using for VWtool?

I would not try to do much with VWtool on a 2004 car. The last update for it was in 1999, and there are things that it just doesn't do right on newer cars.

Just for laughs, try VCDS-Lite with the same cable that you're using for VWtool.
https://www.ross-tech.com/vcds-lite/download/index.php


Considering it talks to most everything else in your car, I'm somewhat confused how it could be.

-Uwe-

Cable with vwtool is VAG-K+CAN. Black with red lettering. I tried to login for steering anglensensor, but said must be 32000 or less so the value i have used beforebwoth VCDS does not allow login. So confused how Vwtool can see it and VCDS cannot.

I cant get anything with VCDS lite sees csbke in options but nothing responds.

So confused!
 
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Scratching head. What cable are you using for VWtool?

I would not try to do much with VWtool on a 2004 car. The last update for it was in 1999, and there are things that it just doesn't do right on newer cars.

Just for laughs, try VCDS-Lite with the same cable that you're using for VWtool.
https://www.ross-tech.com/vcds-lite/download/index.php


Considering it talks to most everything else in your car, I'm somewhat confused how it could be.

-Uwe-


@Uwe Could not get it to connect with the VAG + Can cable. Bought a cheap blue 409.1 cable and VCDS lite connects.. Not registered so I cannot get past coding for steering angle sensor. Also not sure I have the right login and coding? 07495 with 06395 A6, 4 pad brakes (HP2?), v8, manual (now) was tip.

Sounds like an issue with the cable or an issue in the car causing the cable not to read? HELP...

Thanks,

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@Uwe Could not get it to connect with the VAG + Can cable. Bought a cheap blue 409.1 cable and VCDS lite connects..
Your picture is not from VCDS-Lite.

Sounds like an issue with the cable or an issue in the car causing the cable not to read? HELP...
Since everything else in the car talks, my guess is that something else in the car is running interference when you try to access the ABS. The HEX+CAN listens on both pins 7 and 15 (K1 and K2). ABS should be on pin 7. If it were mine, I'd try isolating those two pins, one at a time.

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Your picture is not from VCDS-Lite.

-Uwe-

Looks like I went into the wrong version for that photo, an old 409 version from my first KII-USB device years ago. below is correct one. Ill try to isolate 15 then and see what happens. Thanks for that suggestion. Is there a list of what is on k1 and k2? Maybe I can figure out the interference rather than just isolating, coding and leaving.

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I thought at one point many moons ago, we had a list of what's on K1 and what's on K2, but I seem to find it at the moment.

FWIW, K2 was only used starting at about MY 2002.

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I thought at one point many moons ago, we had a list of what's on K1 and what's on K2, but I seem to find it at the moment.

FWIW, K2 was only used starting at about MY 2002.

-Uwe-

If you can find that It would be great! this is a 2004. So guessing there is K2. Hoping that is the issue, unplug a module and Code it!!! I found this: https://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/audiB6.html Would this apply to a 04 C5 Also? I know steering wheel/air bag modules are very different.

Is my coding correct per this: 2004 Allroad V8 (WAS auto, is now manual) Cluster already coded, ECU reprogrammed since I cannot code it.

login: 0749(5 or 7) 4 pad front brakes, Lucas HP2 I believe.
Coding: 06395
Taken from here:
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Audi_A4_(8D)_Brake_Electronics_(Bosch_5.3_ABS/EDS/ASR/ESP)


When I did attempt to code it showed me 01324 which my car does not have low range module.
 
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If you can find that It would be great! this is a 2004. So guessing there is K2. Hoping that is the issue, unplug a module and Code it!!!
Personally, I would try isolating K2 at the OBD-II socket rather than trying to do it one module at a time.

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