2012 Passat 3C Cruise Control

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I Have following trouble with my Passat. If I want to activate cruise controll, it's only posible on first and second gear. Till reaching roughly 30km/h. Then it's not possible. I changed the hall sensor on main clutch cylinder, because there were fault code in memory. I tried also to uncode cruise controll and then code it again, but it also didn't help. I also find out, that the gear indicator don't work very well. It shows only first and second gear on low speed. On higher gears/speed it sometimes appears and then disappears. I think it has something to do with cruise controll, but I have no idae how to solve it.
 
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So I'm here again with correct vvcds device.

In the meantime I realized, that sw of car do not correspond with my transmission. Do you have any ideas what to do with it?

You maybe also realized, I'm using Hexnet in infrastructure mode. Every time I want to do the autoscan it gives me error message about ASAM files. I tried download it several times in both channels. Do you have any idea, what I did wrong?

And Also I'm not able to view or email the log. Only opportunity I have is to sync it to cloud.

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#hndoc:?docid=00005703&xt=hnh:C313101A72CFD8136FF55F67E1EAFFD72CBDA6C7783FEDC596B6E95419A2D6A3
VCDS Mobile 0.4513.0.4

Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 4F 52 53 56 62 72

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 16000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 16000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 16000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 16000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 16010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 16000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 16000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 16000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 16000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 16000



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Address 01: Engine  (CAXA J623)	Labels: 03C-906-016-CAX2.clb
	Part No SW: 03C 906 016 DK	HW: 03C 907 309 E
	Component: 1.4l R4 TSI   H15 4771
	Revision: L5H15---
	Coding: 00190012002400000000
	Shop #: WSC 50202 136 100326
	ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TFS01103C906016DK 001004
	ROD: N/A
	VCID: 6B9954AF2FEE78538D203D-803E

	No ASAM data for: "EV_ECM14TFS01103C906016DK"
No fault codes found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes	Labels: 3AA-614-109.clb
	Part No SW: 3AA 614 109 AB	HW: 3AA614109AB
	Component: J104   C2 450M V486  0022
	Revision: --H07---	Serial Number: 00000004697964
	Coding: 0000360
	Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
	VCID: 6D9D5AB711FAEE63935413-8038

No fault codes found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC  (J301)	Labels: 3C8-907-336.clb
	Part No SW: 7N0 907 426 AM	HW: 7N0 907 426 AM
	Component: AC Manuell    H19 0304
	Revision: 00001016
	Coding: 0000004002
	Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00000
	ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X A01010
	ROD: N/A
	VCID: 7F4190FF4B96F4F331E8D9-802A

	No ASAM data for: "EV_ACManueBHBVW36X"
No fault codes found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.  (J519)	Labels: 3AA-937-087.clb
	Part No SW: 3AA 937 087 C	HW: 3AA 937 087 C
	Component: BCM PQ47 M    413 0455
	Revision: BA413001
	Coding: 000000000000000000180280100000E403016688424D8960648040200040
	Shop #: WSC 62492 001 1048576
	VCID: 3A37A1EB103409DB465620-806F

	Subsystem 1 - 	Part No SW: 3AB-955-419	Labels: 1Kx-955-119.clb
	Component: Wischer 0108110  0603
	Coding: 00B795

No fault codes found.

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Address 15: Airbags	Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
	Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 R	HW: 5N0959655R
	Component: J234__101 VW10 HI    1918
	Revision: 22014000	Serial Number: 003K0PJGQPUZ  
	Coding: 0012337
	Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
	VCID: 4CDBF7334AA0076BE4EAE6-8019

	Subsystem 1 - 	Serial Number: 6332MTS644252341 

	Subsystem 2 - 	Serial Number: 6342MTS649822271 

	Subsystem 3 - 	Serial Number: 6351HTS6VJ2SDAKJ 

	Subsystem 4 - 	Serial Number: 6361HTS66O86DAKR 

	Subsystem 5 - 	Serial Number: 00000000000000000

	Subsystem 6 - 	Serial Number: 00000000000000000

No fault codes found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel  (J527)	Labels: 3C-16.lbl
	Part No SW: 3C9 953 501 BP	HW: 5K0 953 569 AA
	Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140
	Revision: FF010040
	Coding: 5180250000
	Shop #: WSC 62492 001 104857
	ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
	ROD: N/A
	VCID: 78B37BE36EB8C3CB70A28A-802D

	No ASAM data for: "EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS"
No fault codes found.

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Address 17: Instruments  (J285)	Labels: 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb
	Part No SW: 3AA 920 870 C	HW: 3AA 920 870 C
	Component: KOMBI         H03 0607
	Coding: 161F00
	Shop #: WSC 66222 181 00000
	ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
	ROD: N/A
	VCID: 322789CBC844E99B8EE688-8067

	No ASAM data for: "EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09"
No fault codes found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway  (J533)	Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
	Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 K	HW: 1K0 907 951
	Component: J533  Gateway H40 1620
	Revision:   H40   
	Coding: 462006
	Shop #: WSC 00000 848 1059554
	VCID: 3833BBE32E381BCBB022CA-806D

No fault codes found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer	Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
	Part No SW: 3AA 959 433	HW: 3AA959433
	Component:    IMMO         043  0400
	Revision: 00043000	Serial Number: VWZCZ000000000
	Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
	VCID: F6AFF5DBE4ACADBBE28E34-80A3

	Subsystem 1 - 	Part No SW: 3C0-905-861-J
	Component:    ELV          029  0380

1 Fault Found:
02861 - Electronic Steering Column Lock Check Sum Error
	008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver  (J386)	Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
	Part No SW: 3AA 959 701	HW: 3C0 959 793 B
	Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0533
	Revision: 13110009
	Coding: 0000B5
	Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
	ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
	ROD: N/A
	VCID: F4ABCFD3F2D027ABDC9ADE-80A1

	No ASAM data for: "EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X"
No fault codes found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist	Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
	Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 M	HW: 5N1909148G
	Component: J500__APA-BS KL.308  1002
	Revision: 1AH03733	Serial Number: 00112420089601
	Coding: 0000258
	Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
	VCID: 3C3BA7F31A00B7EB544A36-8069

No fault codes found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.	Labels: 3C0-959-433-46.clb
	Part No SW: 3AA 959 433	HW: 3AA959433
	Component:    KSG PQ47 ELV 043  0634
	Revision: 00043000	Serial Number: VWZCZ000000000
	Coding: 0091020052830E763004941570084F0B607C01
	Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
	VCID: F6AFF5DBE4ACADBBE28E34-80A3

	Subsystem 1 - 	Component:   Sounder n.mounted      

	Subsystem 2 - 	Component:       NGS n.mounted      

	Subsystem 3 - 	Component:      IRUE n.mounted      

No fault codes found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II  (J520)	Labels: 1K0-907-532.clb
	Part No SW: 7N0 907 532	HW: 1K0 907 951
	Component: EZE_2         H40 1620
	Revision:   H40   
	Coding: 00000008
	Shop #: WSC 00000 848 1059554
	VCID: EFA1C0BF9BF61C732148E9-80BA

	Subsystem 1 - 	Part No SW: 3AA-919-204-A
	Component: Analoguhr    004 0003

No fault codes found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.  (J387)	Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
	Part No SW: 3AA 959 702	HW: 3C0 959 792 B
	Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0533
	Revision: 15110009
	Coding: 0000B4
	Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
	ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
	ROD: N/A
	VCID: F5ADF2D7F9AA3EA3EB842B-80A0

	No ASAM data for: "EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X"
No fault codes found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake	Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
	Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 G	HW: 3AA907801G
	Component: J540 EPB4  VW-64783  0009
	Revision:   H19   	Serial Number: 00000000224557
	Coding: 0022157
	Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
	VCID: 352DB2D7392A66A3AB04EB-8060

No fault codes found.

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Address 56: Radio  (J503)	Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
	Part No SW: 5K0 035 156 A	HW: 5K0 035 156 A
	Component: Radio         553 0555
	Revision: R0553006
	Coding: 0100020002
	Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
	VCID: 250D6297898A96231B643B-8070

No fault codes found.

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For any problem(s) with the car: Use VCDS rather than VCDS-Mobile to get us a scan.

What kind of transmission does this car have? The CAN gatewaty doesn't seem to think it has one either.

Issues with VCDS-Mobile should be taken up in a separate thread here.

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Replaced your gearbox at some point?
 
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If no gearbox in scan, then its usually a manual box :)

Factory gearbox code (3 letters) can be found from the vehicle data sheet near spare wheel in trunk and beginning of service handbook. The 1.4 TSI on RoW Passat B7 should have one of the following 6-speed manual boxes: LHY, LNY, NBW, NBX, PRG or PRJ. Check on the gearbox case between the selector tower and engine block which gearbox code you have. If it's not one of them, someone has probably fitted a wrong box for this vehicle.
 
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It's manual. And the thing is i bought this car as is with changed transmission. The original one should be NBW. On the housing there is this code brushed away. Is there any opportunity to fix that? My idea was to try in software of the car change the gear ratios, but I don't know if this is possible/how it works.

I will try to explain its behavior. On first and second gear it works normal. On third and higher it behaves like when I depress accelerator it shows me the gear in gear indicator, but when I press it it disappears. It makes me think, that the gar ratio is slightly different than the sw data.
 
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Although the gear ratio and speedometer accuracy shouldn't be ruled out I would also want to log wheel speed data in 03-ABS. The VSS (vehicle speed sensor/speedometer) should be calculated based on wheel speed data from 03 so a rusted wheel bearing or flaky WSS might be responsible (and unrelated to the trans swap).
 
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Dana: Thank you for your reply. I didn't tried exactly this method. I don't have the car with me right now. I had it in car service and they agreed it!s problem of sw of car.

Is there anybody, who can advise me, how to modify the sw of the car to have properly working cruise control?
 
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Perhaps first step is to find out from which donor car the gearbox is from and/or the gearbox code, in order to find out it's gear ratios. If the markings on the bell housing are ground down, then perhaps the other markings aren't? See picture...



Alternative method to get an idea of ratios is to tell us how many rpm-s are in 6th gear at 90kmh?
 
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Thank you for your reply. I measured it and according to log it's 2186 Rpm at 90km/h on 6th gear. I will try to get other markings when I get to the workshop.
 
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So I looked at other codes on gearbox and on top of it there is:
WV AG
ES GX2 8.
0AJ 301 103 A
0AH 301 103 B
0AJ 301 103 B

Boss next to the first code is deepened a bit

 
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Nope, still not the transmission code, only the gearbox bell housing part number, which a a lot of gearbox codes share.

Anyway, in Elsa I looked through the 0AJ gearbox allocations and drive ratios. The stock NBW has a ratio of 73 : 18 = 4,056 and there seems to be only other transmission with code LHY with a different ratio of 74 : 17 = 4,352. So perhaps this is the mystery gearbox...
 
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So I moved forward. Could anybody recognize this transmission? It should be JPG. Does this ratios fit to another types?
https://ibb.co/N3mJkk3
 
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