Golf R mk7 2014 - missing Race Mode Driver Profile

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Hello

Recently retrofitted a Discover Pro Mib2 unit along with a brand new 2018 virtual cockpit dash. Had fuel guage error that was solved by changing out my old 5q0 gateway control module to a newer 3q0 gateway control module. However I have a missing driver profile error where by Race Mode is no longer available to select. I have Eco, Normal, Individual only.

Does anybody have any advice or is there somebody who could help me? I have read in another post that this can be and has been solved.

Thanks

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Isn't Race Mode a FeC that needs to be restored by someone with an ODIS/Fazit connection?
 
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Usual behaviour for this type of retrofit.

You need to find someone who can remove CP and load parameters to GW.
 
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Hi the person who did the retrofit spent quite a few hours attempting to re-parameterise is what he said to me. He had someone remotely connect using odis to try and sort but no joy. Wondered if anyone had any exact steps to solve by any chance..? I have been without race mode for nearly 3months and it's super sad lol.
 
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Also I was told CP deffo removed and parameters of Golf R loaded on to the new gateway. What was weird is that racemode worked before on my old gateway with the retrofit but then had fuel guage error which basically left me to guess when my fuel tank was empty. Since upgrading to a new gateway I got the race mode issue. I've currently got the car at VW for a dsg oil change and asked if they could look into but they said they haven't got the slightest idea where to start and wouldn't want to break anything already programmed.
 
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You need to find someone who can remove CP and load parameters to GW.
Since upgrading to a new gateway I got the race mode issue. I've currently got the car at VW for a dsg oil change and asked if they could look into but they said they haven't got the slightest idea where to start and wouldn't want to break anything already programmed.
Looks like you need to find a VW specialist who knows what they are doing ;)
 
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Can anyone recommend a specialist who has solved this race mode issue before then? Would really appreciate it
 
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djalix is in your neck of the woods. Google vagcarcoding and his details should come up. The driver profiles are FEC, i.e. Gateway. From memory this is caused by an incorrect dataset. Can you post a full autoscan so we can see.
 
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Djalix on this forum or is he the guy to ask for when contacting vagcarcoding website? I unfortunately don't have the car with me at the minute (it's at VW) so cannot pull a scan. Soon as I can I'll post it up. Cheers @myounus.
 
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Djalix on this forum or is he the guy to ask for when contacting vagcarcoding website? I unfortunately don't have the car with me at the minute (it's at VW) so cannot pull a scan. Soon as I can I'll post it up. Cheers @myounus.
Be sure to use legit interface.

Issue I've seen with this type of retrofit is that parameter set gets deleted with mib2.5 install from gw and sometimes FEC isn't active for driver modes.

I'm not aware if parameter for R and regular differ or just fec which tells which nr driver mode is active.
 
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Thanks @Golfi appreciate the input. Hopefully I can get to the bottom of this. Just need to get my car back from VW first then can pull some scans
 
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Evening guys and gals,

So the OP reached out and I have now had two interesting and indeed frustrating sessions with this vehicle, todays was 5 hours!

In the first session I completed the following:

- 3Q0907530L/C gateway in place. Re-coded correctly as additional modules were added to installation list which the vehicle does not have. Recoded vehicle also. Once error free I attempted to upload parameters with no luck. Replace Module and FES = Control module not valid.
- 5Q0907530T gateway in place, CP removed, parameter upload no go. Replace Module and FES = Control Module not valid.
- 3Q0907530L/C reinstalled, Drive Mode Issues remain, no errors on vehicle.

In the second session:

- 3Q0907530L/C installed, tested additional upload of parameter sets, no go.
- 5Q0907530T Gateway reinstalled and then flashed to AJ, CP Removed, parameter upload no go. Replace Module and FES = Control Module not valid.
- 5Q0907530T (now AJ) Gateway flashed to AM, CP Removed, parameter upload no go. Replace Module and FES = Control Module not valid.
- 5Q0907530T (now AM) Gateway flashed to Q, CP Removed, parameter upload no go. Replace Module and FES = Control Module not valid. Range Error Returned. Only available Q firmware was Audi so am guessing this was always going to fail but wanted to see the Range Error as its something I have not seen before and I have retrofit way too many AID to count / remember.
- 5Q0907530T (now Q) Gateway flashed to T, CP Removed, parameter upload no go. Replace Module and FES = Control Module not valid.
- 3Q0907530L/C installed in order to return vehicle to error free state, ECO, Normal and Individual Drive Modes.

Official parameterisation and FES is not possible with this vehicle / VIN. Tested all available manual parameter sets with interesting results as while able to always restore the basic drive modes of ECO, Normal and Individual whenever I managed to restore Race it would only be in conjunction with Individual and switching via the mode button was not possible. Also on ignition cycle any and all available drive modes would disappear. Disconnecting and reconnecting power to the Gateway would bring drive mode display back again but not allow switching. A further ignition cycle would then cause them to disappear again until re-uploading. Even a hard reset on the Gateway would not make them pop again.

Conclusion, unless anyone else can shed light on this, a used gateway from a golf R needs to be sourced and installed in to this vehicle with parameters intact or another golf R needs to host a gateway which can be parameterised / FES officially and then transferred over to the problem vehicle, example:

- Golf R with factory fitted T found.
- Replace factory T with another T module.
- Code, parameterise, FES etc.
- Remove and install in to problem vehicle.

Any ideas / thoughts would be welcome as I am not sure what else would be possible short of "spoofing" another R but this comes with its own set of complications...
 
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Alix can you post a scan of this car for completeness. Maybe it's not an R from factory??
 
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Alix can you post a scan of this car for completeness. Maybe it's not an R from factory??
Car is an R :)

Scan from first session, post recoding vehicle in order to correct incorrect coding / adaptations:

Code:
Wednesday,13,November,2019,19:49:34:27508
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64(Parallels)
VCDS Version 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: VAG Car Coding Limited

VIN: WVWZZZAUZEW281704   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (3Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 19 22 42 44 52 55 5F A9

VIN: WVWZZZAUZEW281704   Mileage: 58908km-36603miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CJXC)       Labels:. 06K-907-425-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 906 259 E    HW: 06K 907 425 B
   Component: 2.0l R4 TFSI  H13 0006  
   Revision: --H13---    
   Coding: 091D00322466050B2004
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259E 001006
   ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259E.rod
   VCID: 302CF5776B4827CF17-8065

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0001

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 0D9 300 011 R    HW: 02E 927 770 AQ
   Component: DQ250-6A MQB  H52 4311  
   Revision: 05852204    Serial number: TFK01401212258
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021.rod
   VCID: 240409272FB08B6FE3-8071

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 AB    HW: 5Q0 907 379 H
   Component: ESC           H31 0557  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 6008400000014A
   Coding: 01FA93A15428296D037E070041C76980C92A94C0E08296F7F8425078C208
   Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 033001
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_033_VW37.rod
   VCID: 7CB41147F78013AFFB-8029

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 907 044 AA    HW: 5G0 907 044 AA
   Component: Climatronic   H02 0805  
   Revision: 00001K06    
   Coding: 00120014200100011005004000101000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 003018
   ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_003_VW37.rod
   VCID: 6680532F990CB97F3D-8033

   Fresh Air Blower Front: 

   Geber f¸r K‰ltemitteldruck/K‰ltemitteltemperatur: 

   Air quality sensor: 

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 AE    HW: 5Q0 937 084 AE
   Component: BCM MQBAB H   H16 0124  
   Serial number: 00011402302594
   Coding: 03101A46C24122F30BA44080B10C07281000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 012001
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_012.rod
   VCID: 7BB6125BF28E1497F2-802F

   Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G2 955 119 A    HW: 5G2 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
   Component: WWS    140119  042 0551 
   Serial number:         140122202111
   Coding: 0E4DDD

   Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547     HW: 5Q0 955 547   Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Component: RLFS  024 0042 
   Serial number: Y14M01D28H23M40S39S8
   Coding: 00A8DD

   Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172     HW: 5Q0 951 172 
   Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0315 
   Serial number: 000000000ZY140090BAC

   Alarm horn: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605 
   Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311 
   Serial number: 00000000000028702150

   Sun Roof: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 8V3 959 591     HW: 8V3 959 591 
   Component: J245 PS73.013  H02 0007 
   Serial number:     WOO26267287     
   Coding: 181901

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 919 294 F    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0142  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 39331401301971
   Coding: 0071051011
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002024
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_002_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3E30DB4FA11CC1BF95-806B

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-572-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 572 B    HW: 5Q0 907 572 B
   Component: ACC Bosch MQB H05 0200  
   Serial number: 20031903270019
   Coding: 001C1300FE0339
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372 001014
   ROD: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372_VW26.rod
   VCID: 3620C36F892C09FF4D-8063

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 AA    HW: 5Q0 959 655 AA
   Component: AirbagVW20    014 0386  
   Serial number: 003MLR0355EE
   Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF00C800000065
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002130
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X.rod
   VCID: 7F4EE64BE69608B7DE-802B

   Belt Pretensioner left: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 945 B    HW: 5G0 980 945 B
   Component: BeltPretRevFL  H35 0341 
   Serial number: 34169677B20011471070
   Coding: 333135

   Belt Pretensioner right: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 946 B    HW: 5G0 980 946 B
   Component: BeltPretRevFR  H35 0341 
   Serial number: 34169676B21011470419
   Coding: 333135

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 201 14
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
   Serial number: 3576700000006D44CE0 
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 901 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
   Serial number: 35867000000B2C6C7E07
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 501 14
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3516502B712AB1B193CF
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 501 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3526502BB12FAE23C23N
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 901 14
   Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3556502A113013E3603S
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 DD    HW: 5Q0 953 549 C
   Component: Lenks. Modul  002 0110  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 24011404221204
   Coding: 0C10
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 017001
   ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_010_VW37.rod
   VCID: 7BB6125BF28E1497F2-802F

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 5G1 920 791 A    HW: 5G1 920 791 A
   Component: KOMBI         409 3197  
   Coding: 23AD4008AF80AE00018D7E011400000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009058
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW37.rod
   VCID: 2A18E71F4D945D1FD9-807F

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 3Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 530 L    HW: 3Q0 907 530 C
   Component: GW MQB High   436 4326  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0007089302
   Coding: 030100042B085900FF00027E9C0F00010001050000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewNF 013044
   ROD: EV_GatewNF.rod
   VCID: 383CCD578338FF8F5F-806D

   Alternator: 

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 N    HW: 5G0 959 442 N  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H06 0038 
   Serial number: 29130000553640094032
   Coding: 2DFFFF

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 E    HW: 5Q0 915 181 E
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8043 
   Serial number: 4427022403          

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels:* 0CQ-907-554.clb
   Part No SW: 0CQ 907 554 D    HW: 0CQ 907 554 D
   Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7076  
   Serial number: HA1-00020.12.13
   Coding: 0001
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 002001
   ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X.rod
   VCID: 46C0B3AFF9CC997FDD-8013

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 B    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
   Component: TSG FS        020 0025  
   Serial number: 20011402091012
   Coding: 001F0220D001048000001000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 40CCA5B7DBE8B74FE7-8015

   Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 812 A    HW: 5Q0 959 812 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: FOND_FHSG_DRV  005 0005 
   Serial number: 00000000000001664433
   Coding: 1D0000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 909 144 J    HW: 3Q0 909 144 F
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  503 5063  
   Coding: 8103
   Shop #: WSC 65136 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 012140
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_012_VW37.rod
   VCID: 393AC853B832E687A0-806D

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 B    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS       020 0025  
   Serial number: 19011402091397
   Coding: 001F0020DE01048000801000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 3FCEA64BA616C8B79E-806B

   Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 811 A    HW: 5Q0 959 811 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: FOND_FHSG_PSG  005 0005 
   Serial number: 00000000000001652494
   Coding: 050000

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:| 7P6-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 907 357 A    HW: 7P6 907 357 A
   Component: AFS-ECU       H07 0080  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 02AE01000B000200
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB 001120
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB.rod
   VCID: 3D32DC43AC1ADAA78C-8069

   Left Headlamp Power Output Stage: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329     HW: 3D0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo links  H05 0012 
   Coding: 2E0000

   Right Headlamp Power Output Stage: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329     HW: 3D0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo rechts  H05 0012 
   Coding: 2E0000

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-HGH2.clb
   Part No SW: 5NA 035 020 A    HW: 5NA 035 020 
   Component: MU-H-ND-EU    H54 1121  
   Serial number: A845F0HB007430
   Coding: 02731001FF00000051110101008808001F0107E601208400FF
   Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig4CGen2HBAS 001001
   ROD: EV_MUHig4CGen2HBAS_VW37.rod
   VCID: 2F2EF60B767638370E-807B

   Operating And Display Unit 1: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G6 919 606     HW: 5G6 919 606 
   Component: ABT_High-2  H52 9130 
   Serial number: VWZ6ZJV2772538      

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: V03 959 806 FM    HW: -----------
   Component: ECE 2019/2020  --- 0177 
   Serial number: --------------------

   Compact Disc Database: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 EG    HW: -----------
   Component: Gracenote2  --- 1016 
   Serial number: --------------------

No fault code found.

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Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869)       Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 907 159 B    HW: 4H0 907 159 A
   Component: SAS-GEN 2     H07 0006  
   Serial number: 131113201718
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
   ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X.rod
   VCID: 2D12EC037C7A4A273C-8079

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:28, VBatt start/end: 12.7V/12.7V)-----------
 
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Send me PM. I’ll give you some hints how you might solve this.

Online parameterization and FeC restore DOES NOT work for modules not in factory database for this VIN. I thought that would be quite clear for people now.
You need some other means:)
 
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Can I somehow join the chat?
FeC restore does work to some extent, but not parameters.
 
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Hi all, many thanks for the responses. Would much appreciate if we shared the knowledge of the fix given how long we have been after a solution. ......Owner of a golf R missing race mode :(
 
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Can I somehow join the chat?
FeC restore does work to some extent, but not parameters.
Yes with FeC true but for online coding and parameterization no go. I’ll send you PM :)
 
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Send me PM. I’ll give you some hints how you might solve this.

Online parameterization and FeC restore DOES NOT work for modules not in factory database for this VIN. I thought that would be quite clear for people now.
You need some other means:)
Thanks. Will fire over a message once home. Appreciate the time and assistance.

The "online actions" were mainly for completeness and for the owners peace of mind. The actual main point of the above works was to see if any of the available files from another "tool" could be applied to the gateway when flashed to different versions.
 
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Djalix and golfi_vend I sent you both PM. Check if it makes any sense :)
 
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